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February 10th, 2020 at 6:53:30 PM permalink
"How to Vulture BIG WINS on SCARAB SLOT MACHINE w/ Palm Springs Spinners"

Fake?

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February 10th, 2020 at 7:21:27 PM permalink
I think they are really gay.
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February 10th, 2020 at 7:22:45 PM permalink
Seems legit. Scarab works on a 10 spin cycle, clearly identified as such on the machine. Each position in spins 1 - 9 that has a scarab highlights that position until spin 10. Then on spin 10, all the highlighted positions are wild.

Definitely vulturable. If I saw that many scarabs on a 1st spin, I'd sit down too.
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February 10th, 2020 at 7:23:10 PM permalink
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I think they are really gay.



And there's that, lol
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February 10th, 2020 at 7:27:57 PM permalink
I don't know what you mean by Palm springs spinners.

The video is clearly edited together from different points in time to show back to back bonus rounds.

Trust me that isn't the frequency of the Scarab bonuses. Sometimes a thousand spins can go by without a bonus round (not an exaggeration)

Finally I didn't see any vulturing in the true sense. The first spin had like 3 scarabs. That's not a winning vulture
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February 10th, 2020 at 7:30:20 PM permalink
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The first spin had like 3 scarabs. That's not a winning vulture



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February 10th, 2020 at 7:45:03 PM permalink
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I don't know what you mean by Palm springs spinners.

The video is clearly edited together from different points in time to show back to back bonus rounds.

Trust me that isn't the frequency of the Scarab bonuses. Sometimes a thousand spins can go by without a bonus round (not an exaggeration)

Finally I didn't see any vulturing in the true sense. The first spin had like 3 scarabs. That's not a winning vulture



Palm Spring Spinners Seem to be some kind of group of people who play slot machines. Group spins are big these days and alot of the people who make the videos seem to be very flamboyant.

Exactly why i asked if it was fake. If i were to fake it I'd wait til something like this happened, take out the money, and put the money back in after recording. I can see it is edited, but since its so new, I figured I would put it out there if something like this were possible.
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February 10th, 2020 at 10:26:49 PM permalink
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Yeah but 4 of them were on reel 5, so not too useful. If they didn't hit the Bonus in the opening round of 9 remaining spins and hit the same wins, they would have lost.

Ive only found one play I thought was worthy on this game. Broke even. But i haven't looked in Vegas.
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February 10th, 2020 at 11:44:39 PM permalink
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I think they are really gay.

Palm Springs = The new San Francisco. How long before the poopsters poopulate the city and make it a sh*t hole is anyone's guess.
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February 10th, 2020 at 11:58:21 PM permalink
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If I saw that many scarabs on a 1st spin, I'd sit down too.

Without knowing the exact math on something like that, I would as well. I think there's a good chance it's +EV if you complete the rest of the bonus cycle. If nothing else, knowing I took away some homeless drug-induced scufflers future potential would be a reward in and of itself to me.
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February 11th, 2020 at 4:35:00 AM permalink
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Without knowing the exact math on something like that, I would as well. I think there's a good chance it's +EV if you complete the rest of the bonus cycle. If nothing else, knowing I took away some homeless drug-induced scufflers future potential would be a reward in and of itself to me.



It's potential of on the last spin is nominal (3 scarabs on the first or second reel in that position. Might be worth a spin

Finding it on the first spin of the cycle you probably would have a better chance of winning in a game of three card montte
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February 11th, 2020 at 4:19:26 PM permalink
Did someone ask you to post this heatmap?
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February 11th, 2020 at 4:30:48 PM permalink
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Did someone ask you to post this heatmap?



I wish because I'd laugh at them. This was a result of searching the words "vulture slots" on google. I wouldnt have asked if it were fake. Although if I were nefarious or had ulterior motives I would say exactly this to get you to stop askin questions about how much I get paid because thats a private thing the boss man said
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February 11th, 2020 at 4:53:17 PM permalink
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Did someone ask you to post this heatmap?



I swear I had nothing to do with it
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February 11th, 2020 at 7:05:36 PM permalink
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I swear I had nothing to do with it


Nah I was thinking someone wanted the cat out of the bag. It's so stupid posting these things, so obvious already. Scarab is probably how I'm winding up with the Corona virus anyway, so it won't matter then.
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February 11th, 2020 at 8:50:31 PM permalink
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Nah I was thinking someone wanted the cat out of the bag. It's so stupid posting these things, so obvious already. Scarab is probably how I'm winding up with the Corona virus anyway, so it won't matter then.



To me when I first started watching it I thought there was a very good chance it was fake, because who would start a bonus game and stop. There is obviously 9 more free games in this video and if they hit this for real it would be even jucier to lie and say they found it like that.

Whoever these spinner guys are they definitely have a reason to lie if their videos are monetized in any way and there are also back door deals always happening.

Why would IGT work with these guys to promote this game? I don't think they would because they dont need to.

So to me it's fake but you may have let the cat out of the bag simply by your response ;-)

And I believe when any casino takes on the risk of these machines being on their floor they know how much someone can vulture it to begin with and use it as an incentive to bring those types of players
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February 11th, 2020 at 9:18:35 PM permalink
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To me when I first started watching it I thought there was a very good chance it was fake, because who would start a bonus game and stop. There is obviously 9 more free games in this video and if they hit this for real it would be even jucier to lie and say they found it like that.

Whoever these spinner guys are they definitely have a reason to lie if their videos are monetized in any way and there are also back door deals always happening.

Why would IGT work with these guys to promote this game? I don't think they would because they dont need to.

So to me it's fake but you may have let the cat out of the bag simply by your response ;-)

And I believe when any casino takes on the risk of these machines being on their floor they know how much someone can vulture it to begin with and use it as an incentive to bring those types of players

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February 12th, 2020 at 2:34:57 AM permalink
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To me when I first started watching it I thought there was a very good chance it was fake, because who would start a bonus game and stop. There is obviously 9 more free games in this video and if they hit this for real it would be even jucier to lie and say they found it like that.

Whoever these spinner guys are they definitely have a reason to lie if their videos are monetized in any way and there are also back door deals always happening.

Why would IGT work with these guys to promote this game? I don't think they would because they dont need to.

So to me it's fake but you may have let the cat out of the bag simply by your response ;-)

And I believe when any casino takes on the risk of these machines being on their floor they know how much someone can vulture it to begin with and use it as an incentive to bring those types of players



They did not find a bonus round with 9 more games left

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February 12th, 2020 at 6:32:38 AM permalink
Quote: heatmap

To me when I first started watching it I thought there was a very good chance it was fake, because who would start a bonus game and stop. There is obviously 9 more free games in this video and if they hit this for real it would be even jucier to lie and say they found it like that.



Have you EVER seen a slot where once the bonus spins are initiated they just stop forever?
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February 12th, 2020 at 6:50:59 AM permalink
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Have you EVER seen a slot where once the bonus spins are initiated they just stop forever?



Rhino Rumble. If you get the stars during the free spin rounds you'll have another # spins/multiplier choice. I'm pretty sure it will sit on that screen forever if you don't make a selection.
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February 12th, 2020 at 7:06:57 AM permalink
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Rhino Rumble. If you get the stars during the free spin rounds you'll have another # spins/multiplier choice. I'm pretty sure it will sit on that screen forever if you don't make a selection.



Yes. There is at least another game like that. I like to prolong the bonus by not selecting right away, but all the other players I've seen pick the symbols as fast as they can.
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February 12th, 2020 at 7:09:33 AM permalink
I specifically mentioned "spins" in my response because there are pick bonuses where you could hang the machine up forever. That was not the case with Scarab.
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February 12th, 2020 at 7:30:04 AM permalink
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Have you EVER seen a slot where once the bonus spins are initiated they just stop forever?



You assume I play them.
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February 12th, 2020 at 7:42:49 AM permalink
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You assume I play them.

clearly you don't
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February 12th, 2020 at 7:49:00 AM permalink
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You assume I play them.



So you think vulturing Scarab means waiting for someone to trigger a free spins bonus and then they abandon the game Midway with like 9 free spins left?
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:01:58 AM permalink
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I specifically mentioned "spins" in my response because there are pick bonuses where you could hang the machine up forever. That was not the case with Scarab.



But those are 2 cases where after you've started bonus spins there can be another pick screen. I think my comment was relevant.
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:04:45 AM permalink
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So you think vulturing Scarab means waiting for someone to trigger a free spins bonus and then they abandon the game Midway with like 9 free spins left?



I dont quote titles for fun. Its because its not something I said myself. This is the title of the video.
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:05:29 AM permalink
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clearly you don't



I cant tell if this is a joke comment or not...
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:23:09 AM permalink
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They did not find a bonus round with 9 more games left

If you don't understand how Scarab works you should not be commenting on it



Ohhh sah, masta sah, i dint meen to axe a question i wadnt saposta.
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:47:02 AM permalink
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Ohhh sah, masta sah, i dint meen to axe a question i wadnt saposta.



Ok so the video is titled vulturing Scarab

Those guys don't know what vulturing is. It's a term they probably heard and think they are doing.

Seeing 3 scarabs after the first spin in the cycle is not vulturing

The bonus rounds are immaterial and just luck on their part. There are edits so it would not surprise me if they were recorded on different days.

So is vulturing Scarab real? Yes

Is the video an example of vulturing? No
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February 12th, 2020 at 4:20:17 PM permalink
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Ok so the video is titled vulturing Scarab

Those guys don't know what vulturing is. It's a term they probably heard and think they are doing.

Seeing 3 scarabs after the first spin in the cycle is not vulturing

The bonus rounds are immaterial and just luck on their part. There are edits so it would not surprise me if they were recorded on different days.

So is vulturing Scarab real? Yes

Is the video an example of vulturing? No



Depends on whom you ask what vulturing is. I distinctly remember Phoebe on an episode of friends calling someone a vulture who was just waiting to play directly after someone with no EV, but both Phoebe and the vulture did believe somehow there was value in doing so.
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February 12th, 2020 at 8:58:10 PM permalink
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Ok so the video is titled vulturing Scarab

Those guys don't know what vulturing is. It's a term they probably heard and think they are doing.

Seeing 3 scarabs after the first spin in the cycle is not vulturing

The bonus rounds are immaterial and just luck on their part. There are edits so it would not surprise me if they were recorded on different days.

So is vulturing Scarab real? Yes

Is the video an example of vulturing? No



The first sequence could be an example of a "-EV vulture" as there were scarabs left behind, but I doubt it was correct to play off. The rest of the video was editing to make the video look more successful.
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February 13th, 2020 at 2:25:51 AM permalink
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The first sequence could be an example of a "-EV vulture" as there were scarabs left behind, but I doubt it was correct to play off. The rest of the video was editing to make the video look more successful.



The ideal vulture is to play when many scarabs are left behind.

That's just an ideal because after a few moments of game play even a total novice ploppie gets the concept and will play through the cycle if there are valuable scarabs on the board.

The true vulture becomes then not to search for left behind scarabs (that's a bonus if you find any but rare) but rather abandoned CYCLES.

I.E. even with few scarabs, the cycle is on its 6th plus spin. Thereby you take your shot without having to pay for 9 spins to get your shot at a +ev spin.

And hopefully you get the scarabs on your end that deliver the profit.

Because any amount of numerous scarabs are gonna always be played by the ploppies, this makes it so very low AP move imo.

I am referring to waiting around patiently for people to abandon scarabs or traversing casino floors in search of abandoned scarabs. Very low level AP
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