onenickelmiracle
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February 7th, 2018 at 5:21:58 PM permalink
I didn't know this, but there are people in Vegas that seek vulture machines with no intention of playing. When they get them, they hold them hostage seeking people to split winnings from people that put up the money. They should all have bullets in the back of the heads as far as I'm concerned. They take a huge advantage, but I think it's too scummy, basically ripping off people. Not just once, I've seen a few of these low lifes in a few short days when I was there.

Shitty thing, you know they're lying about investing money. Second, what can you do, either walk away, report them or rip them off. Is it ethical to scam a scammer? Wouldn't seem right, but otherwise they'll rip someone off, and the only thing they lose is an opportunity to scam.
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Johnzimbo
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February 7th, 2018 at 7:26:53 PM permalink
What do they do to get customers? Whisper "Hey buddy....wanna buy some multipliers?"
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February 7th, 2018 at 7:36:10 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

What do they do to get customers? Whisper "Hey buddy....wanna buy some multipliers?"



I haven't seen it but that is probably the gist of it. I'm sure they try to overcharge.

If I were the one making the games, I would offer an option to buy back a player's multipliers if he cashes out with some on the next hand. Then again, it would go against the purpose of keeping the player at the machine, which is probably why I am not the one making the games.
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onenickelmiracle
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February 7th, 2018 at 7:58:34 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

What do they do to get customers? Whisper "Hey buddy....wanna buy some multipliers?"

Pretty much. They have people willing to play what would be EV, but not EV because they split wins, eat losses. They call them up, but will offer strangers a deal. It's not UX, something more complicated and higher BR dependent. I don't know, maybe they're fake disabled, worried about hand pays affecting their entitlements, but I really think it's just better to never lose, always win, and that's what they choose.
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February 7th, 2018 at 8:04:30 PM permalink
There's no such thing as "scamming a scammer". If he interprets "we'll split the wins, but I (ONM) will eat all the losses" as "we'll split the wins, but I (ONM) will eat all the losses", then that sucks for the scammer who's trying to hold the machine hostage. Make the deal, then afterwards tell him to F*** off.
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February 7th, 2018 at 8:22:21 PM permalink
Happens all the time , like the people that sit on must hit mchines with no bankroll to play them.
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February 7th, 2018 at 9:59:43 PM permalink
Would be funny to scam them

What are they gonna do, call casino security? LUL
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February 7th, 2018 at 10:20:03 PM permalink
There are lots of hustlers who are broke and can't afford to play +EV situations themselves, however, they know the value so they will hold the machines and call someone in who has the cash in turn for a small % of the profits. Perhaps their guy couldn't show, so they get desperate and try to sell it to whoever is willing to pay.
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February 8th, 2018 at 8:21:25 AM permalink
Simple solution: tell them you want to play the machine and they need to yield it to you (for free).

If they refuse, call security.

Problem solved.
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February 8th, 2018 at 8:46:42 AM permalink
Sounds like you were in Harrah's. Not sure what their security is thinking but a common occurrence there.

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