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August 16th, 2021 at 5:15:43 AM permalink
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This is from a while ago:


That’s it.

Your standards are fairly low for "dressed to the hilt"


I stand by that…for the El Cortez, yes, she’s dressed to the “hilt”, IMO. My standard.

I stand by my comment... your standards of "dressed to the hilt" are low, even for that place (-:

Personally, I absolutely dislike her outfit, and if I really want to critique the picture, she's sitting like a man as if she's getting ready to face off and go to table game war.

On a side note, I assume she isn't "dressing up" for the people at the EC but it would be more for her viewers.



Your critique seems like you just bought a Miata and are trying too hard to fit the character.
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August 16th, 2021 at 6:50:47 AM permalink
Hey y'all. Just a reminder that the person you're discussing is a (dormant) member in good standing here...
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August 16th, 2021 at 10:48:43 AM permalink
So she is.

I see she posted on only one thread she started a few years ago to promote her youtube slot channel.

She wrote: "I'm not playing to make $$$, but for entertainment! I just enjoy the games."
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:04:10 AM permalink
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This is from a while ago:


That’s it.

Your standards are fairly low for "dressed to the hilt"


I stand by that…for the El Cortez, yes, she’s dressed to the “hilt”, IMO. My standard.

I stand by my comment... your standards of "dressed to the hilt" are low, even for that place (-:

Personally, I absolutely dislike her outfit, and if I really want to critique the picture, she's sitting like a man as if she's getting ready to face off and go to table game war.

On a side note, I assume she isn't "dressing up" for the people at the EC but it would be more for her viewers.



Your critique seems like you just bought a Miata and are trying too hard to fit the character.


LOL. Miata?
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:15:29 AM permalink
I generally enjoy her content. But she does seem blah/disinterested lately. Perhaps it’s losing. Or just lost interest in the concept.

I’ve said this for years: if casinos were set up where you give them $10 and they hand you back $9.64 every single time, that would be super boring. No one would ever do that. The excitement is in the possibility of winning short term, and generally excitement in the ups and downs (one of my favorite trip memories was being down $700 on the last day of a trip and getting it all back plus $90 in a few hours of poker). But the longer and more you play, the more your day to day begins to feel like that super boring state. Plus casinos are generally not the happiest places to be, in my opinion. I can easily see getting burned out.
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:35:44 AM permalink
Quote: TinMan

I generally enjoy her content. But she does seem blah/disinterested lately. Perhaps it’s losing. Or just lost interest in the concept.

I’ve said this for years: if casinos were set up where you give them $10 and they hand you back $9.64 every single time, that would be super boring. No one would ever do that. The excitement is in the possibility of winning short term, and generally excitement in the ups and downs (one of my favorite trip memories was being down $700 on the last day of a trip and getting it all back plus $90 in a few hours of poker). But the longer and more you play, the more your day to day begins to feel like that super boring state. Plus casinos are generally not the happiest places to be, in my opinion. I can easily see getting burned out.



You might be on to something. It may have went from a fun diversion with people supplying input, to feeling like an obligation to keep providing content to satisfy all her contributors. Before she may have just not showed up on days when she didn't feel like it, now feels obligation to show up whether she feels like it or not. Turned into a job.
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:37:45 AM permalink
OTOH, maybe she just got her face loaded with Botox. It's all paralyzed.
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:43:11 AM permalink
WAIT -slot lady was here yesterday according to the visitation detail on her profile.

I wish she would comment, lambast us, get us suspended or tell us it's none of our business. I'm fine with any of that.
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August 16th, 2021 at 12:53:21 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

You might be on to something. It may have went from a fun diversion with people supplying input, to feeling like an obligation to keep providing content to satisfy all her contributors. Before she may have just not showed up on days when she didn't feel like it, now feels obligation to show up whether she feels like it or not. Turned into a job.




It is her job that supplies her income. Most youtubers hate filming after awhile but without videos there is no income. So they either get a regular job or keep trying to put out videos. They run out of things to say and to film.

Slotlady has also said she was never a talker. When she started to video again she complained her throat was sore from speaking so much. IMO she hates this job but needs it too survive.
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August 16th, 2021 at 1:36:29 PM permalink
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WAIT -slot lady was here yesterday according to the visitation detail on her profile.

I wish she would comment, lambast us, get us suspended or tell us it's none of our business. I'm fine with any of that.


WOV Forums had >800 visitors yesterday. We believe its because of the PM spammer(s) - and because a lot of dormant members get email alerts when they receive a WOV PM. So hundreds of members who had not been on WOV for years did log in yesterday, apparently to check their PMs. That is probably why slotlady visited yesterday.
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August 16th, 2021 at 2:01:39 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

WAIT -slot lady was here yesterday according to the visitation detail on her profile.

I wish she would comment, lambast us, get us suspended or tell us it's none of our business. I'm fine with any of that.



If Slotlady was here yesterday I hope she saw that I noticed her shoes.

If I were 30 years younger I'd ask her to be my (choke) fifth wife.
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August 16th, 2021 at 4:32:09 PM permalink
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This is from a while ago:


That’s it.

Your standards are fairly low for "dressed to the hilt"


I stand by that…for the El Cortez, yes, she’s dressed to the “hilt”, IMO. My standard.

I stand by my comment... your standards of "dressed to the hilt" are low, even for that place (-:

Personally, I absolutely dislike her outfit, and if I really want to critique the picture, she's sitting like a man as if she's getting ready to face off and go to table game war.

On a side note, I assume she isn't "dressing up" for the people at the EC but it would be more for her viewers.



Your critique seems like you just bought a Miata and are trying too hard to fit the character.

Listen up here cuttie, Miatas are fabulousssssss.
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August 19th, 2021 at 6:28:48 PM permalink
Tuned in briefly to her baccarat livestream tonight and she seemed depressed and morose again. Likely because she was losing. Moved on to something else.
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August 19th, 2021 at 10:24:49 PM permalink
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Tuned in briefly to her baccarat livestream tonight and she seemed depressed and morose again. Likely because she was losing. Moved on to something else.


Maybe she needs to make money. Content.

I would have a hard time creating gambling content everyday with a smile. I enjoy gambling but everyday, day in, day out would wear me down.

When she quit not long ago…it seemed to me it would be longer than a month or two. She came back pretty quick.
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August 19th, 2021 at 11:03:34 PM permalink
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Maybe she needs to make money. Content.

I would have a hard time creating gambling content everyday with a smile. I enjoy gambling but everyday, day in, day out would wear me down.

When she quit not long ago…it seemed to me it would be longer than a month or two. She came back pretty quick.

I don't think I would ever get sick of it, if I was making a profit, and knew I had an advantage. I can only guess is that she is winging it as far as knowing if her profits from the content actually generate a profit when you factor in everything. Any significant losses would probably make one depressed.

I'm almost wondering if failure to profit was the original reason for her exit, but then someone decided to bankroll/ fund her.
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August 20th, 2021 at 3:10:07 AM permalink
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I don't think I would ever get sick of it, if I was making a profit, and knew I had an advantage. I can only guess is that she is winging it as far as knowing if her profits from the content actually generate a profit when you factor in everything. Any significant losses would probably make one depressed.

I'm almost wondering if failure to profit was the original reason for her exit, but then someone decided to bankroll/ fund her.



She has said frequently that she doesn't profit from gambling. Why does this forum dwell on that subject? That train left a long time ago.

She rakes the money in from YouTube.
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August 20th, 2021 at 4:44:36 AM permalink
She would be smart to partner with a gambler. Let the gambler take all the risk. Or let’s say 90% of the risk so she still has some stake.
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August 20th, 2021 at 7:52:03 AM permalink
LiveStream Breakdown

Okay, this is just to give everyone an idea, so I watched the Baccarat livestream. These livestreams are definitely not for me, so this will be the only time I am ever doing this. That said, I wish Slotlady all possible success.

In terms of actual results, she got pummeled, so it makes sense that she wouldn't be in a fantastic mood. Overall, she lost $973.75 in about 26 minutes with an average total bet a bit north of $55 and perhaps close to $60. I tracked the bets and Superchat donations as she played, so those results will be displayed below. I was not going to pause/unpause this the entire time, so please note that I failed to note which bets were on Banker and which were on Player.

She was playing with a little bit of a system (mostly) where $25 would reflect one unit, so she would start with a bet of two units and then add a unit on each win. Given this system, it seemed that she had one opportunity to press up to $125 that she chose not to do, instead betting $100 again. What she played of the shoe was pretty, "Choppy," which doesn't really help when it comes to her system.

The Numbers

Again, I wasn't going to pause and unpause all day, so these numbers are very close, but might not be exactly right. IOW, I might have missed a hand.

Total Amount Banker or Player: $3,625

Total Side Bets: $285

I'm going to standardize the House Edge to 1.1% for the main bets since she definitely bet Banker a lot more than she did Player. I guess I could have kept track of the specific bets on which side, but I didn't care enough. This is close enough.

Approximate Expected Loss (Main Bets): 3625 * .011 = $39.875

Side Bets: Slotlady played the Dragon Bonus every hand which has a much lower house edge for Player than it does Banker, (2.65% v. 9.37%), but I'm going to eyeball it at a 7.5% average just based on how many more Banker hands she played than Player. If anyone wants to watch the entire video and log how many times she played each side, then be my guest.

Approximate Side Bet Expected Loss: 285 * .075 = $21.375

Total Approximate Expected Loss: $61.25

The side bet is obviously terrible and carries with it nearly as high of an expected loss on a $5 Banker Dragon (5 * .0937) = $0.4685 as a $50 regular Banker bet (50 * .010579) = $0.52895...specifically, the expected loss on the $5 side bet is about 88.57% as much as the $50 Banker main bet. Of course, variance comes into play and I think she was actually net profitable on the side bet in this small sample size. Hitting a 30:1 makes all the difference, of course.

Total Superchat Donations: $191.93

As we can see, Superchat donations came in at more than 3x Slotlady's expected loss on this Baccarat session, which also ignores any recurring ad revenues that may or may not come as a result of this video, I have no idea. I see that Youtube takes roughly 30% of Superchats, so that would leave about $134.35 for Slotlady, which is still safely over 2x of her Expected Loss and still ignores other revenues.

NOTES:

1.) Slotlady tipped the remaining $26.25 to the dealer, which was a classy move considering that she got thoroughly pummeled. On the other hand, Superchat donated $191.93 to her, so I think not tipping the dealer would have been a really bad look. Counting the tip and Youtube's cut, Superchat revenues alone still come in at roughly 1.75x expected loss...and could be much better, if not for the Dragon Bonus.

2.) I think that playing Dragon Bonus is a strange idea not only because of the high house edge, but also because the maximum profit is $150 on a $5 bet, which is sort of inconsequential when your base bet on the main game is $50.

3.) Slotlady has stated that she is in Vegas full-time, at this point, but cannot presently find an apartment.

3a.) Slotlady has stated that she can stay at El Cortez for free as long as she wants to, but would really like to have a place with a kitchen and is sick of eating out all the time.

4.) The highest Superchat donation was $50. Far be it from me to tell other people how to spend their money, I guess.

5.) Many of the chatters did not seem to have any particular interest in Baccarat specifically; many of them commented to the effect that they had no idea why Slotlady was winning or losing and a Moderator (I assume) dropped links to the WoO Baccarat page a few times. Thanks for the traffic!

---Anyway, I obviously don't know what her bank account looks like, but all of the various internet things seem to be her source of income at this point as she is in Vegas full-time. In any event, unless something positive happened on the slots, I don't think yesterday was a very good day for her.***

***Apparently, she did a slot video yesterday using $634 in Free Play and managed to convert that to about $710 playing the $12 Buffalo Gold ($3 per screen x4), so she actually didn't lose that much overall yesterday (considering Superchat) if those are the only things that happened. I hopped, skipped and jumped that video, so my apologies to Slotlady for the poor watch time. Actually, I'll watch it once through muted and give it a thumbs-up to fix that.

****Feel free to let me know about other videos. She seems friendly, so I'll "Watch" them once through, do the thumbs-up and mute them in a separate tab as they appear. (I think Youtube knows if you are muting, so what I actually mean is, "Play with my speakers off.")
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August 20th, 2021 at 8:28:57 AM permalink
If she's not been squirreling some away, I'd be depressed too. Because that's an endless cycle with a probable end date at some point and you'd need to have an investment of some sort to move on eventually. Somebody mention Bitcoin to her! (j/k)
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August 20th, 2021 at 8:53:10 AM permalink
Should she partner with an AP? Hmmm.
Have you looked at the screen names of her fans? What percentage do you think are men?

Any hot APs on this forum who think they can draw an audience to help her?

Mission nice analysis. But I missed your estimation of her monthly ad revenue from YouTube.

If a YouTuber does 20 videos a month and loses $1000 on each video... but is paid $50,000 per month in advertising revenue, after how many months will the YouTuber not care about the gambling losses?
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August 20th, 2021 at 9:05:41 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Should she partner with an AP? Hmmm.
Have you looked at the screen names of her fans? What percentage do you think are men?

Any hot APs on this forum who think they can draw an audience to help her?

Mission nice analysis. But I missed your estimation of her monthly ad revenue from YouTube.

If a YouTuber does 20 videos a month and loses $1000 on each video... but is paid $50,000 per month in advertising revenue, after how many months will the YouTuber not care about the gambling losses?



How the hell would I know how to estimate her monthly ad revenue from Youtube? My analysis directly stated that I wasn't including any revenue sources aside from Superchat. That aside, thanks for the compliment.

Her most recent $1,000 bankroll slot video (I hopped, skipped and jumped) garnered $227.40 in Superchat donations, of which she would see about $159.18. I'm not going to take the time to tally the total amount bet, but suffice it to say that you could knock me over with a feather if that comes anywhere close to covering her expected loss. She played Regal Riches in a terrible game state, among other things.

What percentage of her fans are men? I'm guessing more than half. A few comment on her appearance in the Live Chats, I guess because maybe they think that will get her to go to bed with them...lol. I feel bad for her actually having to be nice to those people, but whatever, it's her chosen occupation, so I don't feel that bad about it.
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August 20th, 2021 at 9:12:02 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

How the hell would I know how to estimate her monthly ad revenue from Youtube?



Exactly.

This discussion is pointless.

Instead, the APs on this forum should start their own YouTube channel.

After a year we can compare followers of the AP Channel vs the Slotlady channel.

I look forward to that.

By the way, the GWAE channel has 4,000 subscribers. Slotlady has 187,000 subscribers.

You hottie APs need to get to work.
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August 20th, 2021 at 9:19:01 AM permalink
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Instead, the APs on this forum should start their own YouTube channel.



Didn't you give Singer such a forum, albeit briefly?

That didn't end well for either of you.
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August 20th, 2021 at 9:21:19 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Exactly.

This discussion is pointless.

Instead, the APs on this forum should start their own YouTube channel.

After a year we can compare followers of the AP Channel vs the Slotlady channel.

I look forward to that.

By the way, the GWAE channel has 4,000 subscribers. Slotlady has 187,000 subscribers.

You hottie APs need to get to work.



I agree, but watching someone gamble on Youtube is pointless. This thread is pointless. Existence is pointless. What difference does it make?

Slotlady Channel would slaughter the AP Channel. No contest. It wouldn't even be close.
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August 20th, 2021 at 10:34:56 AM permalink
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This is from a while ago:


That’s it.

Your standards are fairly low for "dressed to the hilt"



I agree, I was assuming there must have been a different picture that I missed. To me that outfit looks like something you would see every day in a casino.
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August 20th, 2021 at 11:08:19 AM permalink
Three-Card Poker Video

Okay, this is the last one. Here are the ACTUAL stats:

Loss: $975
Tip: $25

Total Loss: $1,000

Superchat: $144.66

"If you don't like it (the content), then go away."-Slotlady

I can definitely get behind that! Just like if anyone doesn't like the length of my articles/posts, please take a number and go $^&*# yourselves in the appropriate order. Thanks for the page view all the same, of course.

Pair Plus: $4,350 * .0728 (1-3-6-30-40-No MINI Royal) = $316.68

Six Card Bonus: 485 * .15279 = $74.10315

Ante: $25 (She made one Ante bet on an unplayable hand) * .0201 (Element of Risk) = $.5025

Total Expected Loss: $391.28565

Superchat proceeds come out to $101.262 (approximately) after Youtube's cut, so the $391.28565 Expected Loss is obviously an unmitigated disaster (almost 4x Superchat earnings) not to mention the fact that she did, in fact, lose/tip $1,000 in actual money.

NOTES:

1.) Some of the chatters were basically pleading with her to play the Ante bet, but Slotlady cited that the Pair Plus is not that much worse than the ante. On a different paytable, that might be true. Unfortunately, Slotlady was playing the second-worst returning Pair Plus paytable known to exist with a House Edge more than 3.5x the Element of Risk on the Ante bet.

2.) Some chatters were unhappy with how poorly she ran (as if she has any control over that), but the truth is, this wasn't a particularly bad run. She hit a much better than expected run of hands early on and then mostly tanked after that. She could always have gone straight to the tanking.+++

3.) She also got some extended playtime because she'd occasionally hit a Pair Plus Straight or Flush just when it looked like the dealer was going to put poor Slotlady out of her misery.

4.) I'm surprised ElCo has such a bad paytable for Pair Plus, but there you go. I'm sure they appreciate their significant cut of the Youtube/Social revenues all the same.***

***If someone wants to leave a comment about how bad the 3CP PP paytable is, or E-Mail Slotlady, or whatever...that would be nice of you. I don't feel like signing into my other Youtube profile.

+++To wit, more than 15% of the return of the Pair Plus comes from the SF and Trips, combined. That being the case, running so poorly on those in her sample size (she didn't get either) means that she basically ran relatively well on other hands to have made so much in total bets. You'd be looking at a drop of over $650 in that timeframe just on missing those alone in that total bet amount.
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August 20th, 2021 at 11:23:30 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

She has said frequently that she doesn't profit from gambling. Why does this forum dwell on that subject? That train left a long time ago.

She rakes the money in from YouTube.

I thought was very obvious to anyone here that she doesn't make money from gambling. She may be losing more gambling and on her expenses than she makes from youtube.
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August 20th, 2021 at 11:28:44 AM permalink
BONUS NOTES (I meant to include these two):

B1.) There was some discussion in the video about whether Slotlady could do her 6CB and PP on two hands that the dealer had to determine and get an answer on. That seems odd to me. If it were my casino, hell, you can play every single spot on the table if you want to.

B2.) Slotlady did a good job catching a straight on the 6CB that the dealer almost swept away as if it was a loss.*

*Speaking of, how nervous must these dealers be knowing they are going to be on Youtube where as many as 10,000+ people will see any mistakes? If nothing else, maybe she should be tipping the dealers more.
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August 20th, 2021 at 12:17:11 PM permalink
Slot you tubers are a bit different than other monetized you tube channels.

For one, everyday slot play is more expensive than a drug habit, stripper habit or call girl habit.

She doesn’t gamble near the levels of other high limit players (MG21, NGslots, Big jackpot). Those guys are burning $1,000 tito’s like the wind.

She should do better than those guys as she has a fairly strong subscriber base and isn’t gambling $50 to $100 or more per spin. She’s a $5.00 pull.
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August 20th, 2021 at 12:21:22 PM permalink
Quote: TDVegas

Slot you tubers are a bit different than other monetized you tube channels.

For one, everyday slot play is more expensive than a drug habit, stripper habit or call girl habit.

She doesn’t gamble near the levels of other high limit players (MG21, NGslots, Big jackpot). Those guys are burning $1,000 tito’s like the wind.

She should do better than those guys as she has a fairly strong subscriber base and isn’t gambling $50 to $100 or more per spin. She’s a $5.00 pull.



That's all probably true. Unfortunately, for the 3CP video, she was betting $50 per hand on a Pair Plus paytable with a 7%+ House Edge, so you might as well be betting that much on a slot machine, at that point. Actually, she was playing two hands, so make it $100 total and $110 when you look at six card bonus bet.
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August 20th, 2021 at 12:33:52 PM permalink
Okay, I sent a direct message to Slotlady on Facebook making her aware of the 3CP PP paytable house edge. My job is done.
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August 20th, 2021 at 1:11:21 PM permalink
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August 20th, 2021 at 4:47:55 PM permalink
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Okay, I sent a direct message to Slotlady on Facebook making her aware of the 3CP PP paytable house edge. My job is done.

Your job isn't done until you watch all her youtube videos and add up her expected losses.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 20th, 2021 at 5:59:43 PM permalink
I enjoy your analyses of her streams, Mission.
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August 20th, 2021 at 7:18:52 PM permalink
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Your job isn't done until you watch all her youtube videos and add up her expected losses.

I genuinely thought about doing this at one time lol. Then rational brain kicked in and remembered how creepy that would likely be.
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August 20th, 2021 at 7:26:45 PM permalink
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That's all probably true. Unfortunately, for the 3CP video, she was betting $50 per hand on a Pair Plus paytable with a 7%+ House Edge, so you might as well be betting that much on a slot machine, at that point. Actually, she was playing two hands, so make it $100 total and $110 when you look at six card bonus bet.

Yeah ironically she should be betting larger on slots and less on the tables.

Her obsession with betting the side bets is I think the main thing that annoys me. She knows how bad they are and yet refuses to stop.
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August 20th, 2021 at 10:56:25 PM permalink
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I genuinely thought about doing this at one time lol. Then rational brain kicked in and remembered how creepy that would likely be.



She did say near the end of one of her livestreams that someone should add up all her wins and losses.

I guess that's different —and slightly less creepy — than adding up her expected losses?
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August 21st, 2021 at 8:21:24 AM permalink
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Yeah ironically she should be betting larger on slots and less on the tables.

Her obsession with betting the side bets is I think the main thing that annoys me. She knows how bad they are and yet refuses to stop.



To the post prior to this one: I don't see anything, 'Creepy,' about adding up her expected losses. What's, 'Creepy,' is the Youtube commenters who make comments like, "Hey Sexy Sarah," or, "You're the sexiest woman on the internet."

For my part, it occurred to me that there was some discussion in this thread as to whether or not this Youtube game is net profitable for Slotlady, so it seemed scientific to compare her expected loss (on games like Baccarat and 3CP where it can be easily estimated or known) compared to known revenues directly from the video, which consists only of the SuperChat. Naturally, she has other revenue sources such as Youtube ad revenue and Patreon, but I would have no way of knowing how those perform, so I'm just going with known revenues.

She shouldn't necessarily bet larger on the slots. I'd encourage you not to forget how much faster slots play than Table Games, even 3CP when you're only playing the two side bets is going to be significantly slower than a slot machine. If she makes a $5 bet on slots with a 10% House Edge, for instance, then her expected loss on just one spin is almost what it is for $50 Banker bet on Baccarat. I don't know that the slot house edge is 10%, of course.

As far as the side bets are concerned, I can actually sort of understand the 6 Card Bonus, despite the horrible house edge. It has the potential for a HUGE payoff, albeit unlikely. Also, even the Pair Plus payoffs can be pretty big compared to what is made on the main game, though she wasn't playing the main game to begin with.

The Dragon Bonus on Baccarat was beyond my comprehension because her base Baccarat bet was $50, the side bet was $5 and the maximum profit potential on the side bet (as such) was $150. Given the relatively low potential profits compared to the Base bet, I didn't see the point.
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August 21st, 2021 at 9:32:10 AM permalink
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To the post prior to this one: I don't see anything, 'Creepy,' about adding up her expected losses. What's, 'Creepy,' is the Youtube commenters who make comments like, "Hey Sexy Sarah," or, "You're the sexiest woman on the internet."

Why is that creepy? That sounds like a compliment. Isn't that one of the reasons her channel is popular?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 21st, 2021 at 9:46:15 AM permalink
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Why is that creepy? That sounds like a compliment. Isn't that one of the reasons her channel is popular?



I consider anonymously coming on to women to be somewhat creepy. That's just me. It's for her to decide what crosses the line anyway...her Livestream chats are moderated, so that's completely her call. I just consider such comments to be somewhat pointless as I can not imagine what the goal is.
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:40:14 AM permalink
Watched her UTH stream from last night. She basically said the reason she hasn’t been her normal self lately is because the move to Vegas has been very stressful and she doesn’t handle stress well.

At one point she actually kind of snapped at a couple people in the live chat who were giving her a hard time.
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:29:55 AM permalink
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Watched her UTH stream from last night. She basically said the reason she hasn’t been her normal self lately is because the move to Vegas has been very stressful and she doesn’t handle stress well.

At one point she actually kind of snapped at a couple people in the live chat who were giving her a hard time.


She moved to Vegas?
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:52:37 AM permalink
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She moved to Vegas?



Somewhere someone said the hotel has her in a room. Free or discounted, I don't know.
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August 25th, 2021 at 10:16:50 AM permalink
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Somewhere someone said the hotel has her in a room. Free or discounted, I don't know.


I don’t know what she’s doing but it almost sounds like her need for money has overruled her fun factor….as far as starting her channel up again. She’s living alone at the El Cortez? Eeesh.
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:12:40 AM permalink
Have any of you randy players tried hitting on her yet?
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:17:29 AM permalink
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Have any of you randy players tried hitting on her yet?

If anyone is thinking about it, I suggest rolling up in a fancy new slot machine.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 25th, 2021 at 11:51:28 AM permalink
She’s very polite…but it can be off putting to listen to some of the comments directed at her. I have little doubt she uses her good looks to attract business, so she probably knows it comes with the territory and tolerates it to some degree. I’m guessing when she’s done live filming, she also gets a few propositions. Hanging at the El Cortez won’t help.
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August 25th, 2021 at 12:23:58 PM permalink
I always got the impression she’s not into guys, if you get my drift. Once someone left a superchat with a message along the lines of “the LGBT community loves you!” and Sarah’s response gave me the distinct impression that she is a member of said community.

I could be totally wrong though and this is in no way intended to be an insult towards her!
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August 25th, 2021 at 12:56:46 PM permalink
She's got a $1,000 buy-in of Blackjack tonight. She usually plays for an hour because I guess that's either all that will fit on her memory card or all the time the casino will let her reserve the table for. What would a reasonable win goal for a $1,000 buy-in be within 1 hour of play time? She says she has horrible luck on blackjack and may discontinue playing the game (so why is she playing again?). She usually has a $50 base bet and will play 1 or 2 spots, but I think she has a $1500 or $2000 buy-in at that level. I'd set a win goal of $2,000 on a $1,000 buy-in for a 1 hour of play, but I could go over.
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August 25th, 2021 at 1:17:00 PM permalink
Does she count?

How is her mastery of basic strategy?
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