Quote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfIf I feel I have a good enough advantage with a high probability of winning there are no limits other than my entire net worth as to what I'm willing to bet. I have played $1200 a spin on slots, I actually lost a little on that play ): Ill play 1 penny a spin if the earn is there.
Interesting statement which I have difficulty wrapping my head around. Can you provide a scenario or example of "enough advantage with a high probability of winning" looks like? Can you define "high probability" as in percentage?
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What's the expression? Something about talk being priced accordingly... or something like that?
I'm having trouble remembering.
I was going to give some examples, but then I seen this post.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfIf I feel I have a good enough advantage with a high probability of winning there are no limits other than my entire net worth as to what I'm willing to bet. I have played $1200 a spin on slots, I actually lost a little on that play ): Ill play 1 penny a spin if the earn is there.
Interesting statement which I have difficulty wrapping my head around. Can you provide a scenario or example of "enough advantage with a high probability of winning" looks like? Can you define "high probability" as in percentage?
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What's the expression? Something about talk being priced accordingly... or something like that?
I'm having trouble remembering.
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I don't know, so please explain.
This probably accounts for why you think you saw 18 yo's in a row.Quote: AlanMendelson
I'm having trouble remembering.
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A few times when I have hit jackpots and the slot attended says, "oh aren't you excited?" I just say, oh yeah, I can barely contain myself, but I want to keep it on the down low.
People find that hard to understand but when you play professionally it really isn't that exciting, more often than not I am thinking "it is about time", not wow I won a jackpot. When I was playing high denom video poker and hitting royals for $50k people were always asking what are you going to do with all that money. I would always make something up about taking a big vacation but the truth was I was going to put it right back in the machines.
Quote: AxelWolfI was going to give some examples, but then I seen this post.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfIf I feel I have a good enough advantage with a high probability of winning there are no limits other than my entire net worth as to what I'm willing to bet. I have played $1200 a spin on slots, I actually lost a little on that play ): Ill play 1 penny a spin if the earn is there.
Interesting statement which I have difficulty wrapping my head around. Can you provide a scenario or example of "enough advantage with a high probability of winning" looks like? Can you define "high probability" as in percentage?
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What's the expression? Something about talk being priced accordingly... or something like that?
I'm having trouble remembering.
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I don't know, so please explain.
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????? To whom is this directed to?
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Alan.Quote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfI was going to give some examples, but then I seen this post.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfIf I feel I have a good enough advantage with a high probability of winning there are no limits other than my entire net worth as to what I'm willing to bet. I have played $1200 a spin on slots, I actually lost a little on that play ): Ill play 1 penny a spin if the earn is there.
Interesting statement which I have difficulty wrapping my head around. Can you provide a scenario or example of "enough advantage with a high probability of winning" looks like? Can you define "high probability" as in percentage?
tuttigym
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What's the expression? Something about talk being priced accordingly... or something like that?
I'm having trouble remembering.
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I don't know, so please explain.
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????? To whom is this directed to?
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He lasted a full 8 minutes before the ceaseless whining commenced.
Quote: AxelWolfAlan.Quote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfI was going to give some examples, but then I seen this post.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AxelWolfIf I feel I have a good enough advantage with a high probability of winning there are no limits other than my entire net worth as to what I'm willing to bet. I have played $1200 a spin on slots, I actually lost a little on that play ): Ill play 1 penny a spin if the earn is there.
Interesting statement which I have difficulty wrapping my head around. Can you provide a scenario or example of "enough advantage with a high probability of winning" looks like? Can you define "high probability" as in percentage?
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What's the expression? Something about talk being priced accordingly... or something like that?
I'm having trouble remembering.
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I don't know, so please explain.
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????? To whom is this directed to?
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So, you will take your "secrets" to the grave because of Alan? Really? Wow. So, the casinos are monitoring this forum and will seek you out and blackball your play? Really?
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"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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Some of us enjoy watching Vic lose his money on a nightly basis.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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My comment is important to you?
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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This is important to you?
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My comment is important to you?
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It is because you have no idea if he's running a profit overall. He could be killing it with eBay fees, sponsorships, promotional money from the casino, memberships and that super chat crap.
Frankly I think they are killing it.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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This is important to you?
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My comment is important to you?
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It is because you have no idea if he's running a profit overall. He could be killing it with eBay fees, sponsorships, promotional money from the casino, memberships and that super chat crap.
Frankly I think they are killing it.
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You do realize it works the same way with you, right? You don't know if he's making a profit, you just think he is. Regardless, he threw away an additional $400 in minutes with his silly antics. That couple of minutes of play is not making up for that $400. Nor does any of that somehow excuse a person losing $400 and saying it's not really a loss. Same as when he folds and doesn't consider it a loss, it's ridiculous.
Additionally, he recently mentioned that he'd been running horribly on video poker so he hadn't been filming it to post. We have no idea how much excess gambling he's doing off camera but it's clearly happening. Seems like he's a degenerate gambler and has found a way to supplement that to a point. If this was just business he'd always be filming so he could use it to make content and thus more money. Like I said before, if you're a super fan that's fine. That doesn't mean the rest of us need to fawn over him, pretend his negativity is all an act, or not acknowledge ridiculous decisions.
I'm sure they make a decent living off the ad revenue and sponsorship, but they clearly chunk most of, if not all of it back in the casino. Whether it be on or off camera.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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This is important to you?
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My comment is important to you?
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It is because you have no idea if he's running a profit overall. He could be killing it with eBay fees, sponsorships, promotional money from the casino, memberships and that super chat crap.
Frankly I think they are killing it.
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You do realize it works the same way with you, right? You don't know if he's making a profit, you just think he is. Regardless, he threw away an additional $400 in minutes with his silly antics. That couple of minutes of play is not making up for that $400. Nor does any of that somehow excuse a person losing $400 and saying it's not really a loss. Same as when he folds and doesn't consider it a loss, it's ridiculous.
Additionally, he recently mentioned that he'd been running horribly on video poker so he hadn't been filming it to post. We have no idea how much excess gambling he's doing off camera but it's clearly happening. Seems like he's a degenerate gambler and has found a way to supplement that to a point. If this was just business he'd always be filming so he could use it to make content and thus more money. Like I said before, if you're a super fan that's fine. That doesn't mean the rest of us need to fawn over him, pretend his negativity is all an act, or not acknowledge ridiculous decisions.
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The difference between you and me is that I'm in the media business and I've handled YouTube contracts and I've done marketing work for some of the top casino companies.
I also know that people use shtick.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: ThisIsMyJamUTH max betting two hands each at $100 ante, blind, trips.
"Last hand if I lose."
Four to a flush on the board. Hand one no flush. Hand two has a 2 for the flush. He immediately starts whining and cussing when the dealer reveals a higher flush as if the chances of that were near impossible.
Then, "We only lost $400 on the hand. I don't even know if I'd call that a loss." Proceeds to play two more hands resulting in an additional $400 loss.
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This is important to you?
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My comment is important to you?
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It is because you have no idea if he's running a profit overall. He could be killing it with eBay fees, sponsorships, promotional money from the casino, memberships and that super chat crap.
Frankly I think they are killing it.
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You do realize it works the same way with you, right? You don't know if he's making a profit, you just think he is. Regardless, he threw away an additional $400 in minutes with his silly antics. That couple of minutes of play is not making up for that $400. Nor does any of that somehow excuse a person losing $400 and saying it's not really a loss. Same as when he folds and doesn't consider it a loss, it's ridiculous.
Additionally, he recently mentioned that he'd been running horribly on video poker so he hadn't been filming it to post. We have no idea how much excess gambling he's doing off camera but it's clearly happening. Seems like he's a degenerate gambler and has found a way to supplement that to a point. If this was just business he'd always be filming so he could use it to make content and thus more money. Like I said before, if you're a super fan that's fine. That doesn't mean the rest of us need to fawn over him, pretend his negativity is all an act, or not acknowledge ridiculous decisions.
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The difference between you and me is that I'm in the media business and I've handled YouTube contracts and I've done marketing work for some of the top casino companies.
I also know that people use shtick.
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Yet the bottom line is you still don't actually know. Nor did you ever address why they mute out and/or skip over his negative rantings on pre-recorded videos if that's just his shtick.
Quote: ams288After several nice winning streams, Sour Vic has returned tonight. He was doing fine for a while, then he starts losing a few hands in a row and the cursing starts.
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Did you keep watching? He did his typical flipping out then went on tilt with a bunch of blind max bets and ended up having a major comeback.
Clearly he'll go back to sour, turn on a dime Vic once this lucky run is done.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: ams288After several nice winning streams, Sour Vic has returned tonight. He was doing fine for a while, then he starts losing a few hands in a row and the cursing starts.
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Did you keep watching? He did his typical flipping out then went on tilt with a bunch of blind max bets and ended up having a major comeback.
Clearly he'll go back to sour, turn on a dime Vic once this lucky run is done.
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I had to leave about 55 minutes in. It was starting to heat up when I stopped. I’ll watch the rest later today.
Made me remember - a few times I’ve seen comments/super chats from “Shannon Elizabeth” on his streams. I’m wondering, is it THE Shannon Elizabeth? I know she plays poker.
I'll bet the yes.Quote: smoothgrhI hope he and Greta aren't getting addicted!
Quote: TigerWuIf all of you guys would quite hate-watching this guy go on tilt everyday then they wouldn't get as much revenue and maybe they'd be forced to take a break.....
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This whole thing may be collapsing anyway. Allegedly, MGM properties changed policy regarding recording due to a scammer on TikTok who charges $2000 to pick out of a high limit machine and record the outcome to use to scam other people. If you do not want it recorded, you have to pay him another $1000. Not that is matters, the majority will be losers and he only will use the video if you win.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2QbX6oDvRCE
MGM is allowing recording again, but the rules are reportedly much stricter.
The shadiness of some of the people making videos may turn out to bite everyone as casinos and companies like youtube and tiktok try to distance themselves from a potential headache.
A number of Youtube people are already probably in violation of terms for not disclosing financial agreements they have with casinos. Their videos are paid promotions and not labeled as such.
Quote: itsmejeffQuote: TigerWuIf all of you guys would quite hate-watching this guy go on tilt everyday then they wouldn't get as much revenue and maybe they'd be forced to take a break.....
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This whole thing may be collapsing anyway. Allegedly, MGM properties changed policy regarding recording due to a scammer on TikTok who charges $2000 to pick out of a high limit machine and record the outcome to use to scam other people. If you do not want it recorded, you have to pay him another $1000. Not that is matters, the majority will be losers and he only will use the video if you win.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2QbX6oDvRCE
MGM is allowing recording again, but the rules are reportedly much stricter.
The shadiness of some of the people making videos may turn out to bite everyone as casinos and companies like youtube and tiktok try to distance themselves from a potential headache.
A number of Youtube people are already probably in violation of terms for not disclosing financial agreements they have with casinos. Their videos are paid promotions and not labeled as such.
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I don't see them banning the filming of table games any time soon. It sounds like Victor and others have brought El Cortez quite a bit of business.
Wynn is also allowing DLucky to host a paid slot tournament unless the social media pressure has caused them to change their position. I haven't seen an update on that if it has happened.
IIRC he just used his internet fame or whatever you want to call it and "borrowed" money from people to feed his gambling addiction.Quote: McSweeneyI'm sorry, I still don't understand how that scam is supposed to work. Could you explain what "pick out of a high limit machine" means more clearly?
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Quote: TigerWuI don't understand what the scam is, either... what exactly is this guy charging money for?
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He basically claims he knows which machines are going to hit so people pay him to lead him to the machines. He also claims to have certain methods that will produce jackpots which he'll teach to anyone willing to pay.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: TigerWuI don't understand what the scam is, either... what exactly is this guy charging money for?
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He basically claims he knows which machines are going to hit so people pay him to lead him to the machines. He also claims to have certain methods that will produce jackpots which he'll teach to anyone willing to pay.
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If only EvenBob could be so forthcoming… 😒
Quote: ThisIsMyJamQuote: TigerWuI don't understand what the scam is, either... what exactly is this guy charging money for?
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He basically claims he knows which machines are going to hit so people pay him to lead him to the machines. He also claims to have certain methods that will produce jackpots which he'll teach to anyone willing to pay.
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Seems that hitting jackpots at will would be more efficient.
1. post videos of massive wins implying magic jackpot powers
Quote:Most people that come to Las Vegas never get a chance to hit a jackpot on a slot machine. In Las Vegas there are thousands of Jackpots hit every single day. [scam man] by far hits more jackpots then anyone else in Las Vegas on a yearly basis. He's now giving everyone a chance to play slots the way he plays slots.
2. charge rubes $2000 for meet and greet session, plus extras
Quote:Keep me Private (I am a high profile person/No one knows I'm in Vegas/I took a sick day) Please do not film me. $995.00
Post my Jackpot Hand Pay video within 48 hours!!! Expect a 30 day wait time if this option isn't selected since we have a backlog of Jackpots. $195.00
Optional Yes! I want the FREE [scam man] Jackpot Experience
The optional free jackpot experience will consists of [scam man] picking out the best slot machines for you and explaining why he thinks these machines are the best ones to hit a jackpot on.
3. rube shows up with $5000 to play high limit slots machines
4. if rube wins, video is posted online to entice other suckers to pay $2000 for opportunity to lose thousands on $500 denom Top Dollar.
Quote: ThisIsMyJamI don't see them banning the filming of table games any time soon. It sounds like Victor and others have brought El Cortez quite a bit of business.
Wynn is also allowing DLucky to host a paid slot tournament unless the social media pressure has caused them to change their position. I haven't seen an update on that if it has happened.
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MGM went after recording hard because of this. More legitimate channels are going to be safer obviously, but I expect that there will be a push toward more disclosure of arrangements that will not be so good for even the more legitimate channels.
Right now, some of the channels make implied statements of business relationships ("partners"), but the direct acknowledgement that these degenerates are being paid to play is lacking. Youtube may not have the same problem as Twitch, but I expect something to happen.
This is all still "under the radar." The average person--your mom, your friends, your mom's friends--have no idea about any of this. I am sure casinos want to keep it that way. The scam is carefully worded to make it "legal", but that would not blunt damage to Wynn if someone reported on their relationship with a guy who is preying on dopes.
Quote: Mission146Seems that hitting jackpots at will would be more efficient.
Like psychics, he has a gift that he wants to share with the world for the low, low rate of $12,000/hour.
My local casino has/had this table, I'm not sure anymore, maybe the table just isn't open, idk. Not sure if it ever had the Bonus bets.
But the $1 & $5 Bonus bets had jackpots of $2K and $10K in this video.
As for Victor's endless losing streaks, it's probably his reckless betting patterns that are to blame. But he did make up for a near $2K loss in yesterday's previous video. His secret today was to increase his bets by $100 on a win starting at $200. He also recklessly pressed his side bet that loses like 90% of the time. That's not something you can successfully Martingale.
I haven’t seen Sarah in a long time. She seems to work the tech side of live chats.
There’s a VP video that looks to me like it should be the poster child for losing control. It’s a VP game with an auto hold. He bets $100 spin (so i think $20 denom maybe?)) and hits the button like it’s a slot tournament. Thousand dollars gone in 20 seconds and then reloads. It’s concerning to watch. El Cortez is making out huge
Someone claimed that Victor’s sour demeanor was an act and Sarah said something along the lines of “no, this is how he really is. You should have seen him the other day when our printer wasn’t working. Luckily I was there to unplug it and plug it back in.”
Quote: rsactuaryVictor was in rare form tonight. Complaining started at the first hand.. he lost $3500 in 15 minutes and ended the stream. Mind you, the dealer was on a roll.
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I’m watching it now and was just going to come here to talk about it.
I’m more convinced than ever that he’s a compulsive gambler who uses his streaming money to fuel his addiction. He used his pretty girlfriend (who didn’t actually like gamble) to build up the channel and then took over when it got popular enough to sustain him for a while.
Quote: ams288Quote: rsactuaryVictor was in rare form tonight. Complaining started at the first hand.. he lost $3500 in 15 minutes and ended the stream. Mind you, the dealer was on a roll.
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I’m watching it now and was just going to come here to talk about it.
I’m more convinced than ever that he’s a compulsive gambler who uses his streaming money to fuel his addiction. He used his pretty girlfriend (who didn’t actually like gamble) to build up the channel and then took over when it got popular enough to sustain him for a while.
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It's like a train wreck, I can't look away.
Quote: ams288Quote: rsactuaryVictor was in rare form tonight. Complaining started at the first hand.. he lost $3500 in 15 minutes and ended the stream. Mind you, the dealer was on a roll.
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I’m watching it now and was just going to come here to talk about it.
I’m more convinced than ever that he’s a compulsive gambler who uses his streaming money to fuel his addiction. He used his pretty girlfriend (who didn’t actually like gamble) to build up the channel and then took over when it got popular enough to sustain him for a while.
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I'm 99% in agreement. It's sad to watch. I know how this story ends, and it's not pleasant. I strongly prefer the old Sarah videos with modest bets and no hyperbole.
Separately, I've noticed that he's started to play BJ only at a CSM 6 deck table. When El Cortex has a single deck game and double deck games. The single/double deck games are objectively better but he doesn't want to have any break in the action.
The way he's betting It's not healthy. There's no way the revenue streams are enough to sustain that level of betting (especially with all the side bets) and tipping (you can't tip $500 for one winning session at 3CP).
The action in the videos is the definition of when the fun stops.
Quote: rsactuaryI have to wonder what the El Cortez is thinking about all of this. Clearly, they're happy to take his money, and that's why they exist... but it is no longer generating positive publicity at this point in time. I wonder when they'll say "enough is enough" with him. Yes, he'll go elsewhere, but at some point in time they have to think that's a good thing. Others film there with a much better and more positive frame of mind.
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I think never. The El Cortez has a liberal filming policy and I can't see them 86'ing anyone who is negative EV and is not causing issues with the dealers. Sure he bitches and moans but no worse so than a regular losing gambler. He uses some profanity but not at the dealers and tips well and plays the high house margin games.
Quote: calwatchQuote: rsactuaryI have to wonder what the El Cortez is thinking about all of this. Clearly, they're happy to take his money, and that's why they exist... but it is no longer generating positive publicity at this point in time. I wonder when they'll say "enough is enough" with him. Yes, he'll go elsewhere, but at some point in time they have to think that's a good thing. Others film there with a much better and more positive frame of mind.
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I think never. The El Cortez has a liberal filming policy and I can't see them 86'ing anyone who is negative EV and is not causing issues with the dealers. Sure he bitches and moans but no worse so than a regular losing gambler. He uses some profanity but not at the dealers and tips well and plays the high house margin games.
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He consistently bitches and moans way worse than basically anyone IME.