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February 5th, 2023 at 11:49:08 AM permalink
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I have to wonder what the El Cortez is thinking about all of this. Clearly, they're happy to take his money, and that's why they exist... but it is no longer generating positive publicity at this point in time. I wonder when they'll say "enough is enough" with him. Yes, he'll go elsewhere, but at some point in time they have to think that's a good thing. Others film there with a much better and more positive frame of mind.
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I think never. The El Cortez has a liberal filming policy and I can't see them 86'ing anyone who is negative EV and is not causing issues with the dealers. Sure he bitches and moans but no worse so than a regular losing gambler. He uses some profanity but not at the dealers and tips well and plays the high house margin games.
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He consistently bitches and moans way worse than basically anyone IME.
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Nah, there are WAYYYYY worse whiners than Vic. You just see video evidence of it and never see the REAL constant complainers who live in the casino. I've seen them in all shapes, sizes and ages. One person even complained whenever they WON!!! Because of course the side bet in Baccarat only paid them 4 to 1 instead of 30 to 1! Lol!
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February 24th, 2023 at 11:11:57 PM permalink
HUGE WIN!! RECORD WIN STREAK!? ULTIMATE TEXAS HOLD’EM! LIVE February 24th 2023 - YouTube


I tried playing this along with the video with my new strategy on a calculator and was up $1,320 with a $3,500 buy-in. I was betting $30 Ante & Blinds and $20 on the trips. When I got to $4,000, I raised my bets to $45 Ante & Blinds with $30 on the trips. When I got to $5,500, I raised my bets to $60 Ante & Blinds with $40 on the trips. If I fell below those balances, I'd lower my bets accordingly. Losing a 4X bet hand would equal a $200 loss at the $30/$20 level; a $300 loss at the $45/$30 level, and a $400 loss at the $60/$40 level. This game is very streaky with long stretches of losing hands, but not necessarily 4X hands. My top balance was $5,740 for this session. If I go below $3,000, I default to my minimum bet of $15 on the Ante & Blind and $10 on the trips. If I get to $7,500, I nearly max bet (max payout at $75K) at $90 on the Ante & Blinds with $60 on the trips. If I get to $10,500, it's probably time to cash-out, because I'll have 3 extra $2,500 buy-ins for later.
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February 25th, 2023 at 1:39:13 PM permalink
All I got out of all that writing was "Oh look another person who thinks they have a system to beat the casino". Good luck with that long term.
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February 25th, 2023 at 2:19:18 PM permalink
OK so I watched this through at double speed, and paused at decision points to see how he handled 1x/river decisions. So I don't know what he told the dealer, now or in the past, and never mind 1x/river which he did correctly ... but I noticed he evidently told the dealer to skip the 2x/flop decision point and go ahead and deal the river unless he paired up.

Not sure why he thinks he can't play better than that. Or maybe the dealer knows to pause with some other cards too, dunno, but definitely has the dealer make that decision for him at times.
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March 11th, 2023 at 6:29:27 PM permalink
Victor is on a roll. He's lost at least $2k a night for the last week and the streams only last like 15-20 minutes. I don't know how well YouTube pays but he can't possibly sustain these type of losses and keep going. The rage is entertaining though.
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March 11th, 2023 at 7:04:36 PM permalink
He's betting far too high, $200 + $25 + $5 + $1. on Extreme +3 with a $2500 buy-in. It should be more like $80 (2X $40 units) + $10 + $5 + $1.
I'd get kicked out of the casino for rambling on that much at the table, but he's got to be verbal for his audience. I never hear him thank the dealer for beating him every time though.
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March 11th, 2023 at 7:25:51 PM permalink


He seems to do much better on slots though.

And is clearly a degenerate gambler.
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March 12th, 2023 at 4:52:15 AM permalink
I'm sure the El Cortez higher ups are will to put up with the attitude for the revenue coming in. 🤣

He typically tips $50. Which probably is pretty good for 20 minutes of verbal abuse.
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March 12th, 2023 at 5:05:54 AM permalink
He complains incessantly but it’s never angry words directed at the dealer. It’s a lot of “I’m the unluckiest person ever”. At most it’s “the dealer gets whatever card she needs.” To me that’s very very different from “F you” or “you’re a B….” To a dealer. Being angry at luck is much more tolerable especially for $50 and up.
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March 12th, 2023 at 8:22:23 AM permalink
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And is clearly a degenerate gambler.



A few weeks ago he was talking about hitting a $4700 RF at a gas station VP. I’m going to assume it was $1 denom with a progressive. I can’t imagine the extra $700 would make that game positive EV since the base game was probably 95-98%

If you’re doing this as a business, you shouldn’t play a negative EV game that’s not on video or otherwise monetized.

Whatever desire to gamble you have should be met by doing on video gambling. He does have VP videos so it’s not like he can’t stream that content.
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March 12th, 2023 at 9:02:52 AM permalink
If he's gambling 20 hours a week and only streams 5 hours of it a week, he's a part-time streamer.
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March 12th, 2023 at 10:00:54 AM permalink
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He complains incessantly but it’s never angry words directed at the dealer. It’s a lot of “I’m the unluckiest person ever”. At most it’s “the dealer gets whatever card she needs.” To me that’s very very different from “F you” or “you’re a B….” To a dealer. Being angry at luck is much more tolerable especially for $50 and up.
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Eh, it's all projecting and whiny venting no matter how you slice it.

Granted, it's less hostile than throwing F-Bombs or other derogatory terms that a dealer might take offense to. But I can't imagine too many dealers having a great time listening to a whiny malcontent for hours at a time. This guy does the same verbal abuse to his printer when it malfunctions, so he seems to be miserable in all situations!
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March 12th, 2023 at 11:40:30 AM permalink
This is why I watch this channel, to see new table games or to get orientated to established table games.
I'm almost sold on playing this game should I find it when I can afford it. I'll have to find a Basic Strategy card for this game, it must be different than normal with the dealer pushing on 22. The auto split & double bets with no money down seems awesome.
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March 12th, 2023 at 12:11:08 PM permalink
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This is why I watch this channel, to see new table games or to get orientated to established table games.
I'm almost sold on playing this game should I find it when I can afford it. I'll have to find a Basic Strategy card for this game, it must be different than normal with the dealer pushing on 22. The auto split & double bets with no money down seems awesome.
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WoO has a basic strategy posted for it. It's fun having pit bosses tell me a Blackjack strategy card won't work for that game then blowing their minds when I tell them it's specific to Free Bet.
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March 12th, 2023 at 12:15:12 PM permalink
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And is clearly a degenerate gambler.



A few weeks ago he was talking about hitting a $4700 RF at a gas station VP. I’m going to assume it was $1 denom with a progressive. I can’t imagine the extra $700 would make that game positive EV since the base game was probably 95-98%

If you’re doing this as a business, you shouldn’t play a negative EV game that’s not on video or otherwise monetized.

Whatever desire to gamble you have should be met by doing on video gambling. He does have VP videos so it’s not like he can’t stream that content.
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100% degenerate. He does a ton of gambling without filming. There's been some videos where he only started recording once he hit a bonus game or at the end where it's showing how much he won. I don't think we'll ever know where his money comes from because it can't all be YouTube.
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March 13th, 2023 at 6:59:44 AM permalink
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And is clearly a degenerate gambler.



A few weeks ago he was talking about hitting a $4700 RF at a gas station VP. I’m going to assume it was $1 denom with a progressive. I can’t imagine the extra $700 would make that game positive EV since the base game was probably 95-98%

If you’re doing this as a business, you shouldn’t play a negative EV game that’s not on video or otherwise monetized.

Whatever desire to gamble you have should be met by doing on video gambling. He does have VP videos so it’s not like he can’t stream that content.
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100% degenerate. He does a ton of gambling without filming. There's been some videos where he only started recording once he hit a bonus game or at the end where it's showing how much he won. I don't think we'll ever know where his money comes from because it can't all be YouTube.
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Nearly all of the gambling people on youtube, twitch, and tiktok are degenerates.

They are problem gamblers who found someone--youtube ad money, dopes on patreon, casinos, game manufacturers--to cover their habit. It is like a person who finds a wealthy gentleman to cover a drug habit in exchange for sex. Only the gambling thing is much more degrading.

This is surprising to me because the casinos are paying for the biggest players. Directly encouraging and normalizing addict playing habits while failing to disclose business links between videopeople/streamers is probably is not the best business decision. This could make for a great news story.
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March 13th, 2023 at 8:48:50 AM permalink
A few people have asked him when Sarah will be back to do streams on table games. He always says something generic like she’ll do streams. I believe I heard her in the background of one recent stream so she’s still involved somehow.

I’d put the line at the number of table games streams Sarah does by herself from today through the end of 2023 at 2.5 and I think I’d take the under.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:02:39 AM permalink
Sarah said in the comments that she was banned from playing at all the casinos, but she was there at the livestream. I can't tell if it was sarcasm or if Victor banned her himself. It looks like a hostile takeover of her channel.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:08:12 AM permalink
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A few people have asked him when Sarah will be back to do streams on table games. He always says something generic like she’ll do streams. I believe I heard her in the background of one recent stream so she’s still involved somehow.

I’d put the line at the number of table games streams Sarah does by herself from today through the end of 2023 at 2.5 and I think I’d take the under.
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She's still involved, she moderates the live stream chats. Victor and Sarah are a couple though they won't confirm it. It was obvious when he first joined the channel and they did streams together. Someone also posted a photo of them holding hands at dinner.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:09:30 AM permalink
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Sarah said in the comments that she was banned from playing at all the casinos, but she was there at the livestream. I can't tell if it was sarcasm or if Victor banned her himself. It looks like a hostile takeover of her channel.
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I'd assume it was sarcasm/snark. They generally respond negatively any time people ask when Sarah is going to stream.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:23:33 AM permalink
It’s very clear that Sarah does not enjoy gambling like Vic does. They always respond with hostility or sarcasm when someone asks when she’ll be back.

They used her looks to build up the channel, then he took over.
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March 13th, 2023 at 9:50:57 AM permalink
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And is clearly a degenerate gambler.



A few weeks ago he was talking about hitting a $4700 RF at a gas station VP. I’m going to assume it was $1 denom with a progressive. I can’t imagine the extra $700 would make that game positive EV since the base game was probably 95-98%

If you’re doing this as a business, you shouldn’t play a negative EV game that’s not on video or otherwise monetized.

Whatever desire to gamble you have should be met by doing on video gambling. He does have VP videos so it’s not like he can’t stream that content.
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100% degenerate. He does a ton of gambling without filming. There's been some videos where he only started recording once he hit a bonus game or at the end where it's showing how much he won. I don't think we'll ever know where his money comes from because it can't all be YouTube.
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Nearly all of the gambling people on youtube, twitch, and tiktok are degenerates.

They are problem gamblers who found someone--youtube ad money, dopes on patreon, casinos, game manufacturers--to cover their habit. It is like a person who finds a wealthy gentleman to cover a drug habit in exchange for sex. Only the gambling thing is much more degrading.

This is surprising to me because the casinos are paying for the biggest players. Directly encouraging and normalizing addict playing habits while failing to disclose business links between videopeople/streamers is probably is not the best business decision. This could make for a great news story.
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Is it possible the casino is giving him his losses back, because of the promotion value of people subscribed or watching the channel? If that's legal, that's what I might do if I ran a casino.
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March 13th, 2023 at 10:35:44 AM permalink
It is completely legal for casinos and game manufacturers to pay social media people to play their games and promote their businesses.

The FTC requires disclosure when there is a "material connection" between business and the media making person. If El Cortez or whatever is giving them anything to play beyond the standard comps and rebates offered to a regular player making same amount of wagers, it has to be disclosed. The FTC tends to go after the business, not the social media person. The social media person may get a letter, but the business are the big fish here.

This is relatively minor compared to casinos allowing scammers to sell access to slot machines through "experiences" and the insane amount of proxy play that is happening through social media (paying tiktok person to gamble on your behalf), but it just something else that could be "uncovered" by some journalist. There is a lot of money involved.
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March 13th, 2023 at 1:55:09 PM permalink
Honestly, given the large amount bet and the terrible strategy used, I would not be surprised if there was a hefty loss rebate given to Victor. It does seem that he has camped out at the El Cortez and has not gone to any other casino. I don't see them at Aliante, Red Rock, Resorts World, or the other casinos which are streamer friendly. As all rebates are discretionary based on the host, outside of an investigation by Gaming, I don't see how anyone would know, and heck Victor might not even know, he just sees $2,000 in free slot or video poker play every so often.
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March 13th, 2023 at 2:01:00 PM permalink
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Honestly, given the large amount bet and the terrible strategy used, I would not be surprised if there was a hefty loss rebate given to Victor. It does seem that he has camped out at the El Cortez and has not gone to any other casino. I don't see them at Aliante, Red Rock, Resorts World, or the other casinos which are streamer friendly. As all rebates are discretionary based on the host, outside of an investigation by Gaming, I don't see how anyone would know, and heck Victor might not even know, he just sees $2,000 in free slot or video poker play every so often.
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I was thinking if your dealing with a host that would be a good workaround when it comes to the "what a normal customer has access to" Everyone has access to a host and they can negotiate whatever deal the host is willing to give them.
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March 14th, 2023 at 2:42:04 PM permalink
Considering they are both Canadian but have been in the US indefinitely I suspect they are on the El Cortez payroll to qualify for work visas. Not sure what other type of visa they'd be on that allows them to stay this long. Open to other suggestions but people need to remember that fun fact. Either that or they are just staying illegally.
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March 14th, 2023 at 3:03:48 PM permalink
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Considering they are both Canadian but have been in the US indefinitely I suspect they are on the El Cortez payroll to qualify for work visas. Not sure what other type of visa they'd be on that allows them to stay this long. Open to other suggestions but people need to remember that fun fact. Either that or they are just staying illegally.
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They could also just be taking weekend trips home every 90 days or whatever the tourism visa limit is. Or maybe they have green cards. They have incorporated as a business so I suspect they have dealt with the requirements necessary for that.
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March 14th, 2023 at 3:31:47 PM permalink
I believe the visa would be for Content Creator, but I'd think some company would have to hire them. Laws are confusing and not discernable. Maybe gamble in the Bahamas first.
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March 14th, 2023 at 6:11:42 PM permalink
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I believe the visa would be for Content Creator, but I'd think some company would have to hire them. Laws are confusing and not discernable. Maybe gamble in the Bahamas first.
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People are allowed to have their own companies and work for them.
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March 22nd, 2023 at 8:58:54 PM permalink
Victor says he put "tens of thousands through the machine" over two days on a Wizard of Oz slot to try and get the Emerald Free Games bonus, which paid $747.

Hope he got paid back at least 85%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm12U_6mLs
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March 22nd, 2023 at 9:12:03 PM permalink
One thing I hate about modern slots, is they too often put on a big show, but don't end up delivering...
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March 22nd, 2023 at 11:34:05 PM permalink
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Victor says he played "tens of thousands" over two days on a Wizard of Oz slot to try and get the Emerald Free Games bonus, which paid $747.

Hope he got paid back at least 85%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNm12U_6mLs
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Boy those Wizard of Oz machines are everywhere. Not as big as Wheel of Fortune or Buffalo perhaps but they're certainly a trend. I guess they both hit a sweet spot for nostalgia and are just gorgeous to look at.
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March 23rd, 2023 at 7:44:01 AM permalink
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One thing I hate about modern slots, is they too often put on a big show, but don't end up delivering...
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BIG WIN!!! INCREDIBLE WIN!!! AMAZING WIN!!! INCOMPREHENSIBLE WIN!!! DEFIES ALL POSSIBLE ATTEMPTS AT SUPERLATIVES WIN!!!

VP Equivalent: You got a flush. Next hand, please.
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March 23rd, 2023 at 7:57:33 AM permalink
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One thing I hate about modern slots, is they too often put on a big show, but don't end up delivering...
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BIG WIN!!! INCREDIBLE WIN!!! AMAZING WIN!!! INCOMPREHENSIBLE WIN!!! DEFIES ALL POSSIBLE ATTEMPTS AT SUPERLATIVES WIN!!!

VP Equivalent: You got a flush. Next hand, please.
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LOL. That gave me an idea for a slot machine whereby the longer a patron stays on it without cashing out, the exclamations over wins become more and more exaggerated.
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March 23rd, 2023 at 9:28:38 AM permalink
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One thing I hate about modern slots, is they too often put on a big show, but don't end up delivering...
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BIG WIN!!! INCREDIBLE WIN!!! AMAZING WIN!!! INCOMPREHENSIBLE WIN!!! DEFIES ALL POSSIBLE ATTEMPTS AT SUPERLATIVES WIN!!!

VP Equivalent: You got a flush. Next hand, please.
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I mentioned this in a thread awhile back — thinking of slot wins in terms of video poker: this 8-minute slot win was 187 for 1, a little better than getting four aces (without kicker) on DDB VP!
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March 23rd, 2023 at 9:37:06 AM permalink
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One thing I hate about modern slots, is they too often put on a big show, but don't end up delivering...
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BIG WIN!!! INCREDIBLE WIN!!! AMAZING WIN!!! INCOMPREHENSIBLE WIN!!! DEFIES ALL POSSIBLE ATTEMPTS AT SUPERLATIVES WIN!!!

VP Equivalent: You got a flush. Next hand, please.
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LOL. That gave me an idea for a slot machine whereby the longer a patron stays on it without cashing out, the exclamations over wins become more and more exaggerated.
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In all honesty I'd love to watch someone play this hypothetical slot from a distance lmao.
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March 23rd, 2023 at 10:10:05 AM permalink
How about a slot for masochists. Instead of big win it can say “ You’re still here you degenerate loser.
Go get the last of your rent money from the Atm etc..
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March 23rd, 2023 at 10:18:24 AM permalink
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How about a slot for masochists. Instead of big win it can say “ You’re still here you degenerate loser.
Go get the last of your rent money from the Atm etc..
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And a little music when the credit meter falls below the last played bet...

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March 23rd, 2023 at 11:20:29 AM permalink
Might as well throw in slot machines that tell you how smart and attractive you are. Or, “is that a fat wallet in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?” I don’t know if there has ever been a Mae West themed slot.
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March 23rd, 2023 at 12:56:59 PM permalink
Mae west is on the cover of Sgt Pepers lonely Hearts Band. Next to Lenny Bruce.
I would like a W.C. Fields slot machine " You can't cheat a honest man ."
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March 23rd, 2023 at 2:42:49 PM permalink
Whatever the case, all this slot channel stuff is fascinating.
If done right, by the right person(s), I can see a situation where one could make a significant amount of money if they actually did the math and figured out how much they could give up in EV and still be profitable,

God help you if you're addicted and fail to do the math and stick to it.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 24th, 2023 at 7:20:52 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Whatever the case, all this slot channel stuff is fascinating.
If done right, by the right person(s), I can see a situation where one could make a significant amount of money if they actually did the math and figured out how much they could give up in EV and still be profitable,

God help you if you're addicted and fail to do the math and stick to it.
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Like Vic?

Does his channel still have good viewership since the eye candy isnt on much anymore?
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March 24th, 2023 at 10:37:51 AM permalink
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Quote: AxelWolf

Whatever the case, all this slot channel stuff is fascinating.
If done right, by the right person(s), I can see a situation where one could make a significant amount of money if they actually did the math and figured out how much they could give up in EV and still be profitable,

God help you if you're addicted and fail to do the math and stick to it.
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Like Vic?

Does his channel still have good viewership since the eye candy isnt on much anymore?
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I'm dumfounded that people actually tune in for this stuff, but apparently they do.


I don't know much about their channel, I only take a peek when someome posts a link to somthing specific. I have no clue what kind of deals they have, how much they make etc. From all appearances, it seems like some of these people have gambling addictions on and off stream.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 24th, 2023 at 11:21:15 AM permalink
I watch Victor regularly. It's kind of like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Lately there are two posters gifting memberships to other people in the chat. Last night alone, one guy dropped $1000 of memberships and he's doing it weekly. Just wow.

Victor mentioned that there are over 3000 exclusive stream members now. A membership is $5 a month, so that's a hint as to how he's covering his losses.
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March 24th, 2023 at 11:48:27 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: AxelWolf

Whatever the case, all this slot channel stuff is fascinating.
If done right, by the right person(s), I can see a situation where one could make a significant amount of money if they actually did the math and figured out how much they could give up in EV and still be profitable,

God help you if you're addicted and fail to do the math and stick to it.
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Like Vic?

Does his channel still have good viewership since the eye candy isnt on much anymore?
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I'm dumfounded that people actually tune in for this stuff, but apparently they do.


I don't know much about their channel, I only take a peek when someome posts a link to somthing specific. I have no clue what kind of deals they have, how much they make etc. From all appearances, it seems like some of these people have gambling addictions on and off stream.
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replace "some" with "most", almost all gambling channels (and most especially slot channels) are people playing high denomination, extremely volatile games, and of course, only showing the winning sessions or the massive wins and not mentioning probably their massive losses they accrue in the meantime.

I think you also underestimate the amount of people that watch these channels that live vicariously through these people's bets. They know they don't have the bankroll to make these types of massive bets, nor do they have the "luck" to get those massive bonus hits, so they watch these slot channels because it makes them FEEL like they are winning even though they are not.

I myself only ever watch one gambling channel, which is the Jackpot Gents, because it's mostly video poker and they actually report their losses, but nobody wants to see the losses, they just want to see the wins so they can live vicariously through them.
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March 24th, 2023 at 12:09:28 PM permalink
I don't know that NJ Slot Guy, 'Reports,' anything, but a fair amount of his videos are just total massacres.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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March 24th, 2023 at 1:36:29 PM permalink
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I don't know that NJ Slot Guy, 'Reports,' anything, but a fair amount of his videos are just total massacres.[



I enjoy several slot channels,esp. The Slot Museum, a super high limit old school slot site.

The guy often loses a lot and doesn't whine much about it, he just puts in another ten grand.
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March 24th, 2023 at 2:45:35 PM permalink
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I watch Victor regularly. It's kind of like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Lately there are two posters gifting memberships to other people in the chat. Last night alone, one guy dropped $1000 of memberships and he's doing it weekly. Just wow.

Victor mentioned that there are over 3000 exclusive stream members now. A membership is $5 a month, so that's a hint as to how he's covering his losses.
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I'm very keptical. We have no idea if that's not some kind of set up.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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March 24th, 2023 at 5:00:58 PM permalink
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I'm dumfounded that people actually tune in for this stuff, but apparently they do.

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I'm probably one of the few with this kind of motivation backstory, but I used to stretch my video game quarters by observing others play, and that continued with casino games when I became of gambling age. It was a good way to learn the rules, strategy, flow, and ettiqute of games before the Internet — and it was interesting to see people gamble amounts that I'd never wager.

Before cell phones, one could never get a feel for casino games unless you were actually there. So, I suppose it's natural that I've shifted my casino fix from live play to streaming videos.

And thinking back at my recent trips, I'd say I rarely actually observe casino players anymore — my time is spent actually playing or doing something else that's fun. (Edit: OK, maybe watching people play Cashman Bingo)
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March 24th, 2023 at 7:33:40 PM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

I don't know that NJ Slot Guy, 'Reports,' anything, but a fair amount of his videos are just total massacres.[



I enjoy several slot channels,esp. The Slot Museum, a super high limit old school slot site.

The guy often loses a lot and doesn't whine much about it, he just puts in another ten grand.
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The slot museum is playing games in his basement. These are set to the highest returns and he's not losing anything....
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