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Filthy Poker posted a few new videos ... he seems to play with "other" players at the table. I'm not sure why he does that ...

I would have thought having a reserved table, you would be able to play more hands.

ive been watching Vic's blackjack videos .. and he comes cross a decent blackjack player.

What do you guys think ?

He seems to know quite alot on other games as well UTH, craps etc.

Vic doesn't know how to gamble, but at least he read the rules of the games.

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ive been watching Vic's blackjack videos .. and he comes cross a decent blackjack player.

What do you guys think ?

He seems to know quite alot on other games as well UTH, craps etc.
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He plays mostly basic strategy. He does go on tilt and will do stupid stuff like doubling 10 against a dealer’s 10.

I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.

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I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.
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Slotmassacre has now developed a constant kvetch when playing video poker.

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I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.
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Slotmassacre has now developed a constant kvetch when playing video poker.
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I agree. He was so likable in the early uploads. Now he's constantly complaining.

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I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.
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I’m right there with you.

I feel like I watch more of his videos now after I’ve unsubscribed from the channel just to see him lose.

Watching last night’s stream right now - it’s weird. He was joined at the table by a stalker fan who always gives him hundreds of dollars of super chats.

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I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.
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I’m right there with you.

I feel like I watch more of his videos now after I’ve unsubscribed from the channel just to see him lose.

Watching last night’s stream right now - it’s weird. He was joined at the table by a stalker fan who always gives him hundreds of dollars of super chats.
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You can tell Vic was a bit weirded out in the beginning when he randomly showed up. However, he couldn't kick him away like others because that stalker keeps sending him 100s of dollars. Once Vic started winning, he stopping caring and wanted him to stay. I hate gamblers who are friendly and happy when they're winning, and sour when they're losing. Vic is a tool.

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You can tell Vic was a bit weirded out in the beginning when he randomly showed up. However, he couldn't kick him away like others because that stalker keeps sending him 100s of dollars. Once Vic started winning, he stopping caring and wanted him to stay. I hate gamblers who are friendly and happy when they're winning, and sour when they're losing. Vic is a tool.
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Right. If you accept the game, you accept the chances.

Mrs Mosca watches slot videos as replacement for playing slots. I just like to watch high dollar Wheel of Fortune videos, because they make me believe that the “SPIN” symbol actually comes up every now and then.

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I used to find Vic's constant complaining annoying. However, I now think it's hilarious. I watch it to listen to his rant.
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I’m right there with you.

I feel like I watch more of his videos now after I’ve unsubscribed from the channel just to see him lose.

Watching last night’s stream right now - it’s weird. He was joined at the table by a stalker fan who always gives him hundreds of dollars of super chats.
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You can tell Vic was a bit weirded out in the beginning when he randomly showed up. However, he couldn't kick him away like others because that stalker keeps sending him 100s of dollars. Once Vic started winning, he stopping caring and wanted him to stay. I hate gamblers who are friendly and happy when they're winning, and sour when they're losing. Vic is a tool.
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What is it they say? “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer!” …Especially if they’re footing the bill!

As I watch all of these youtubers I'm more and more convinced their money burn rate is very high.

I went down a rabbit hole a few weeks back about fake gambling streaming online. The short version is a lot of famous streamers will make videos of them online gambling (often out of place with their normal content as you can tell they don't usually gamble) at some website (usually foreign crypto based casino) and making ridiculous bets with a massive bank roll (they usually make a spectacle about showing their account). Though it turns out that they are usually not only being paid to stream such videos, the money deposited in their account is deposited by the casino (which is confirmed by people who can trace blockchain transactions). And, they are just making hours long streams of them playing lot machines at high bets to make their audience curious to click the link to join. So despite the appearance of high limit gambling, they are not actually risking anything (and are actually getting paid to sit there and stream them at a slot machine or online BJ, etc....)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWc5U12h-4g

(This is specifically about Twitch, a site I have never been on, but my understanding is it is usually used to stream video game tournaments).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kHkYC3QC3U



The reason I comment on this, is because all of these slot videos on Youtube. I don't watch a ton of them, but those that I have watched usually make many mentions of the casino they are in and how awesome it is. So it makes me wonder if a lot of these "slot channels" are not actually gambling, but people who are using house money to play high limit slots and raise excitement for the casino. It seems online foreign (illegal -at least in U.S.) casinos have been secretly doing this for years on streaming sites, it would not surprise me if some traditional casinos are doing something similar as well, especially for the bigger slot channels.

While not illegal (I don't think, though encouraging customers that your foreign site is "VPN friendly" is kind of pushing it, while streamers claim to be streaming from that country, despite obviously being in the same location that they always are...) it is undeniably unethical. If traditional casinos engaged in this kind of marketing for live streams from their casino, it would be very suspect (though probably harder to trace since there is no blockchain to see where the money originated, if they are given money in cash or slot credits on their card -which can very easily be explained away by "I gamble a lot so I get a lot of free slot play" if somebody is questioned).

-For clarity, I am not accusing "Slot Lady" or any specific slot channel of this (I am just posting here as this is turning into a thread regarding any kind of physical slot streaming). But, it makes you wonder if they are out there. My guess is with all of these channels across the world, there has to be at least some, perhaps far more than just some if you base it on online casino numbers. -

It makes sense that the youtubers mention the casinos they play in. It might be part of the deal to let them shoot video.

Showing the suites, the food, certain glamour shots may all be part of the deal.

Look at the videos for John's World of Video Poker. They're like commercials for the casinos. And if he's also getting comps then good for him.

I don't criticize that. I congratulate him for getting those deals.

And if a Youtuber swung a deal for rebates too-- well then congratulations again!!

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It makes sense that the youtubers mention the casinos they play in. It might be part of the deal to let them shoot video.

Showing the suites, the food, certain glamour shots may all be part of the deal.

Look at the videos for John's World of Video Poker. They're like commercials for the casinos. And if he's also getting comps then good for him.

I don't criticize that. I congratulate him for getting those deals.

And if a Youtuber swung a deal for rebates too-- well then congratulations again!!
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I don't know who that is. But, if it turned out that he was playing video poker in his video's with promotions dollars given to him by casinos for streaming a specific session would you feel the same way?

That is not even gambling at that point, you are just a walking commercial..... (You are not risking your own money as all play is covered by site owner). Which if you are upfront about it is fine, but if you are acting like you are gambling your own money, its not.... (you may as well watch videos of somebody play a slot machine that they own in their garage as the risk is the same).

To me it makes no difference if he was given cash, tickets or vouchers to play.

I'm more interested in watching youtubers who explain proper strategy. Whether they win or not means nothing to me.

I dont watch the slot videos-- what's there to learn? Though American Casino Guide did do a couple of videos about finding slots close to their bonus rounds.

If you're asking am I troubled by rigged videos, the answer is no. It's not bonafide news. I dont think these youtubers need to prove any credibility because I'm not investing in their play.

But if they were soliciting my money for a share of the action my attitude would be different.

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To me it makes no difference if he was given cash, tickets or vouchers to play.

I'm more interested in watching youtubers who explain proper strategy. Whether they win or not means nothing to me.

I dont watch the slot videos-- what's there to learn? Though American Casino Guide did do a couple of videos about finding slots close to their bonus rounds.

If you're asking am I troubled by rigged videos, the answer is no. It's not bonafide news. I dont think these youtubers need to prove any credibility because I'm not investing in their play.

But if they were soliciting my money for a share of the action my attitude would be different.
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But, that is not the topic, here its slot videos. There is no strategy on slots (well yes on some, but for the sake of popular videos and generally speaking), its about encouraging people to dump money in machines based on videos of large wins (that are possibly funded by casino promotions).

To go back to streamers, when a streamer has 1.5 million (USD) in his account is making 10k+ bets, acting like he is excited on every massive win on some sketchy non-American crypto-based site (and the money is verifiably placed in his account by a casino, and it is verified that they are being paid an hourly rate to stream by the same site), that is being a total sellout. And, my suspicion was that similar things are happening in physical casino streaming. That is not gambling, that is being a walking commercial (you are being paid to look like a high roller).

The issue with slots, is that slots are what get a lot of problem gamblers. Is it just happenstance that there are so many more slot channels than poker or blackjack channels? Or is (at least in some cases, we know for sure with online casinos its the case) that it is designed this way?

If I ran the El Cortez, I probably would have examined the numbers slot lady was pulling in while she was playing by herself, and made her a deal based on that. But yes, shilling is inherently deceptive unless you declare your arrangement (somewhere on the page in really tiny tiny tiny print, Or you do that radio thing where the speech is so fast you can barely make it out)

I’m half joking, but true still…

I guess I'm not as sensitive as others might be about watching casino videos on YouTube. Frankly I havent seen anyone actually be a consistent winner. I've heard claims about winning big but I havent seen enough on YouTube to believe the claims.

I believe these youtubers are trying to make money through fees and advertiser revenue. I dont believe any of them are actual winning gamblers.

This guy in the first video is full of BS with a big agenda. This guy and whoever is claiming 35k an hour to stream. I don't believe it. Sure, they might offer someone 35k to do it one time or something that's certainly not an ongoing offer. This guy follows up with people making/being offered millions a month, and that being normal. I call BS. It's not happening where normally people are actually making millions a month streaming online gambling.

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To me it makes no difference if he was given cash, tickets or vouchers to play.

I'm more interested in watching youtubers who explain proper strategy. Whether they win or not means nothing to me.

I dont watch the slot videos-- what's there to learn? Though American Casino Guide did do a couple of videos about finding slots close to their bonus rounds.

If you're asking am I troubled by rigged videos, the answer is no. It's not bonafide news. I dont think these youtubers need to prove any credibility because I'm not investing in their play.

But if they were soliciting my money for a share of the action my attitude would be different.
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what's there to learn from vp videos?
Just follow the strat sheet

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To me it makes no difference if he was given cash, tickets or vouchers to play.

I'm more interested in watching youtubers who explain proper strategy. Whether they win or not means nothing to me.

I dont watch the slot videos-- what's there to learn? Though American Casino Guide did do a couple of videos about finding slots close to their bonus rounds.

If you're asking am I troubled by rigged videos, the answer is no. It's not bonafide news. I dont think these youtubers need to prove any credibility because I'm not investing in their play.

But if they were soliciting my money for a share of the action my attitude would be different.
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what's there to learn from vp videos?
Just follow the strat sheet
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Please stop making good sense.

I'm lazy. I'd rather watch the plays come up... the video gets paused... and the play explained.

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This guy in the first video is full of BS with a big agenda. This guy and whoever is claiming 35k an hour to stream. I don't believe it. Sure, they might offer someone 35k to do it one time or something that's certainly not an ongoing offer. This guy follows up with people making/being offered millions a month, and that being normal. I call BS. It's not happening where normally people are actually making millions a month streaming online gambling.
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Well it depends on normal, many of these channels are the rare Youtubers with millions of subscribers, who probably can charge 35k for an ad (this is probably not the norm). Some of the Channels like "Nelk" probably can charge 35k easily for an hour long ad.

But, the amount is irrelevant. Even if they are only be paid 10 Dollars an hour to stream, the alarming thing is that the money in their account, is not theirs and is placed there by the Casino to get people hyped about playing slots, they are not gambling their own money.

For example if there is a random Youtuber you follow that posts video game footage everyday. And, then he randomly starts streaming online slot play with absurd balances, he's not doing that for fun....

The issue is slot streamers who pretend to be risking their own money while playing with casino money.

That is why earlier in the thread a long time ago some people said how commendable it is that Channel X (not going to name anyone specifically) does not run ads during slot streams and that shows how legit they are (paraphrasing). Could that be because the whole video is a paid ad? Why would you not run ads on a video that gets high views unless you are told not to as part of an agreement (especially if youtubing is your career)?

I feel like a lot of people are not seeing that a lot of these have the potential to be direct or indirect advertisements (in the case of physical casinos) In the case of online casinos when crypto is used its provable that they are direct ads (but I am correlating it back to traditional slot streamers) ...

...... I hate gamblers who are friendly and happy when they're winning, and sour when they're losing. Vic is a tool.
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i'm the exact opposite.

I love it when I lose my hard earned cash.
I'm so happy to walk out with nothing except for the smile on my face.

On occasions when i do win, I'm devastated..
I love donating to the casino.

BTW, i'm being sarcastic ...

I don't think I have ever been mad about losing money gambling. I just don't put enough money at risk that would make me mad to lose it. When I was gambling daily I would set a stop loss limit for the day. If I was down $10k for the day I just quit immediately so that I wouldn't chase.

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I don't think I have ever been mad about losing money gambling. I just don't put enough money at risk that would make me mad to lose it. When I was gambling daily I would set a stop loss limit for the day. If I was down $10k for the day I just quit immediately so that I wouldn't chase.
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There's nothing wrong with a stop loss when losing, and nothing wrong with a stop loss to preserve a percentage of your profits when winning.

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I don't think I have ever been mad about losing money gambling.
I just don't put enough money at risk that would make me mad to lose it. When I was gambling daily I would set a stop loss limit for the day. If I was down $10k for the day I just quit immediately so that I wouldn't chase.
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When i first started gambling, i brought $500 x # of days in Vegas.
so 6 days = $3k.
and I set a stop limit of $500/day even if i didn't lose $500 the previous day.

Those were the days when i had discipline.

Now, i might lose all $3k in a day.
Then do the walk of shame to the ATM. (At least i'm smart enough to have a bank that reimburses ATM fees)

And even though $3k is an even smaller % of my net worth now than when I first gambled in Vegas decades ago, it still sucks to lose it all in 1 day.

Craps/uth- I buy in for $500. If i lose it, i switch to the other game. If i lose it in the 2nd game, i go for a walk/eat lunch or dinner.
Rinse/repeat 3 times.

i don't get mad. Instead, i feel sad.
Why do i continue to gamble since i'm not having fun with a losing streak???
Luckily, this has only happened twice in the past decades. (With the 2nd time being this week.)

I should set a stop loss limit again.
yeah, $1000/day sounds good. ($500 per game per day)

The situation I know that is going to irk me, is when the game or games gives me way less play than what I expect for the investment. You go to the casino and expect your stake to last the usual 1 1/2 or 2 hours and instead, it's gone in 30 minutes from nasty variance. Even if I lose, I don't like to feel cheated as well. Very annoying.

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The situation I know that is going to irk me, is when the game or games gives me way less play than what I expect for the investment. You go to the casino and expect your stake to last the usual 1 1/2 or 2 hours and instead, it's gone in 30 minutes from nasty variance.
Even if I lose, I don't like to feel cheated as well. Very annoying.
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uth $400 buy in, $10 ante/blind.
Get 6 good hands in a row that warrants 4x ($40) Play bet.
Lose all 6 = I'm gone in 5 min :(

Rinse/repeat multiple times.
Angry at first that Gaming gods hate me this week.
then sadness afterwards when i beat myself up for buying in again that day

True, That's why they move from machine to machine after a few spins, Obviously the viewers would not be interested.

What happened to John's World of Video Poker?

A couple of weeks ago he was challenging himself to duplicate last year's results of turning $100 into $100,000+ but I havent seen any new videos.

Slotmassacre has shown him playing but nothing from John.

What's up??

https://youtu.be/FpKsf6sGCJ8

Very disappointed in Slotmassacre.

For those of you following him, a few months ago he announced he was turning professional and was building a bankroll off of using his free play offers that he built up while using outside business income to play high stakes VP.

In his newest video he admitted to not following the plan.

https://youtu.be/zXcMQngLx7E

He overstayed at one casino losing thousands of his own money at a high denomination game and as a result he forfeited a free play opportunity at another nearby casino.

Disappointing. Very.

I was really hoping he'd succeed with his free play project. In another video he talked about having tens of thousands of free play available to him around the country.

He admits to losing $8300 and if you dont want to watch the whole video the admission starts at about 6:45 from the start.

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Very disappointed in Slotmassacre.

For those of you following him, a few months ago he announced he was turning professional and was building a bankroll off of using his free play offers that he built up while using outside business income to play high stakes VP.

In his newest video he admitted to not following the plan.

https://youtu.be/zXcMQngLx7E

He overstayed at one casino losing thousands of his own money at a high denomination game and as a result he forfeited a free play opportunity at another nearby casino.

Disappointing. Very.

I was really hoping he'd succeed with his free play project. In another video he talked about having tens of thousands of free play available to him around the country.

He admits to losing $8300 and if you dont want to watch the whole video the admission starts at about 6:45 from the start.
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I think it's a bad omen picking an ambiguous title like "Slotmassacre". Much like the infamous Oracle of Delphi prediction to would-be conqueror that if he crossed a river, a great empire would fall. Yeah, but wrong one.

(i don't believe in omens, but I love the clever, as it were)

Brian Christopher has his own branded slot machine!

Looks like a low-volatility game.

John's World is back with another video with his $100,000 challenge -- trying to turn $100 into $100k which is what he said he did last year.

This video starts with a long travelogue about a visit to Washington D.C.

The video poker installment is at the end.

https://youtu.be/_e6BdcANEx0

From this video we now know that he's playing with TWO bankrolls. One for his challenge and another fir his play at other casinos.

Slotmassacre showed him playing at Circa but John doesnt report how he did at Circa. He does mention a small win at a casino near Washington.

What good is a $100k challenge on one bankroll and no knowledge how the other bankroll is doing?

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Brian Christopher has his own branded slot machine!

Looks like a low-volatility game.
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That EZ Slot Life YouTube moron’s head might explode over this. He hates Brian Christopher.

Vic is playing Fortune Black Jack, but with a different paytable than what the Wizard found on his travels.
Fortune Blackjack https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/side-bets/fortune-blackjack/

LIVE BLACKJACK!!! New Strategy in Effect!! July 13th 2022 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi2QEI5mEk
So losing 76% of your side bets have to be made up for somehow.

Lady Luck HQ showed one of her win/loss statements in a video yesterday.

Showed coin in of about 1.7M with a loss of about 117K. (remembering off the top of my head, don't quote me).

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Vic is playing Fortune Black Jack, but with a different paytable than what the Wizard found on his travels.
Fortune Blackjack https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/side-bets/fortune-blackjack/

LIVE BLACKJACK!!! New Strategy in Effect!! July 13th 2022 - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXi2QEI5mEk
So losing 76% of your side bets have to be made up for somehow.
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I don't know if these youtubers are playing to win or if they're playing for the camera?

It appears to me they bet "crazy" to gain viewers. For all we know their YouTube income is much more than what they might lose playing.

In 13 hours the new strategy video had 15,000 views.

It doesn't really count unless you're getting well into the 6 figures of views per video, but you'll have years to reach that per video. I keep seeing a TV writer on IG coming out with his residual writing checks and most of them are pathetic and below $20, but a few are for a thousand dollars or more. Of course the shows he wrote on are so last century.

I kind of quit YouTube when the view counters got stuck at just over 300 views for hours, days, and weeks to stop videos from trending. My internet connection was no damn good either until a few months ago. I've never trusted Viacom anyway and they'd blacklist me in a heartbeat.

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It doesn't really count unless you're getting well into the 6 figures of views per video, but you'll have years to reach that per video. I keep seeing a TV writer on IG coming out with his residual writing checks and most of them are pathetic and below $20, but a few are for a thousand dollars or more. Of course the shows he wrote on are so last century.

I kind of quit YouTube when the view counters got stuck at just over 300 views for hours, days, and weeks to stop videos from trending. My internet connection was no damn good either until a few months ago. I've never trusted Viacom anyway and they'd blacklist me in a heartbeat.
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Why mention Viacom? What's the connection to YouTube? YouTube is owned by Google.

I don't know what the current pay rate is from YouTube but these youtubers churning out a video per day makes me think their revenue outweighs their casino losses.

Anyone have hard numbers? No guessing.

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I don't know what the current pay rate is from YouTube but these youtubers churning out a video per day makes me think their revenue outweighs their casino losses.

Anyone have hard numbers? No guessing.
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APs at major casinos have lots of competition nowadays.

I'm waiting for one of them to turn YouTuber to generate $.

Ie:
play slots at almost breakeven (ie: 99% return) and hope the $ generated from his/her video puts them into +EV territory

Wait.. that could describe high limit 9/6 ddb (99% return) video poker YouTubers.

Are they actually up, factoring in YouTube $?

Seems they have to play enough to win a $40K VP Royal at the $10 coin level. How much can they afford to lose before then?

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I'm waiting for one of them to turn YouTuber to generate $.

Ie:
play slots at almost breakeven (ie: 99% return) and hope the $ generated from his/her video puts them into +EV territory

Wait.. that could describe high limit 9/6 ddb (99% return) video poker YouTubers.

Are they actually up, factoring in YouTube $?
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Pretty sure this already happens.
Some of the inadvertent audio in livestream videos to that effect seem to disappear from later playbacks.

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Seems they have to play enough to win a $40K VP Royal at the $10 coin level. How much can they afford to lose before then?
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I used to AP some $10 video poker but it paid $50k for the royal.

Highly recommend tonight’s 200k subscriber stream.

Sour attitudes, sour results.

Karma.

That was very unfortunate.

I dont understand why they play that game? I think Vic mentioned he only had one winning session at it.

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Highly recommend tonight’s 200k subscriber stream.

Sour attitudes, sour results.

Karma.
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So, she is not doing videos, except once in a while? Seems like she was trying to keep him from griping too much

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Highly recommend tonight’s 200k subscriber stream.

Sour attitudes, sour results.

Karma.
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So, she is not doing videos, except once in a while? Seems like she was trying to keep him from griping too much
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She hardly ever does videos anymore. She just moderates the live chats while Vic loses all his money at UTH.

I’m convinced he’s a compulsive gambler who uses the income from YouTube to fuel his addiction.