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Not sure whether you mean “closely” as scrutinization, or exactness. As far as exactness, MGM has me tracked right down to the $.33 at the end.
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I mean in terms of scrutinization. I have no doubt that they have an exact running count of my profits. I am just not sure if the statistics are sitting in a computer somewhere that no one ever looks at or cares about, or if someone looks at them, whether unusual profits get flagged, etc. I also don't know if comp offers are done automatically with AI or if there's an actual person sitting there and figuring out what comps to dole out to which people (for my sake, I hope it's the former).
Quote: billryan
Why would they want you doing anything but losing your money? I'd have an employee distributing prizes tableside or to your machines.
Never mess with The Sacred Flow of the Cards or with a mans ability to lose his money. The El Cortez will bring your meals right to your machines you can keep pissing away your money. I'm surprised others don't do this.
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When a new casino opened up here a couple of years ago, the place itself was beautiful. They totally captured the Vegas feel in terms of grandour.
However, management was fresh out of day care or something because the place was (and to the best of my understanding still is) terribly run.
You want a bottle of water? Well go over there and stand in line for 20 minutes waiting for a single bartender to work through a line of other people buying complicated drinks. Once it's your turn he will grab the bottle in 5 seconds and hand it to you. But don't you dare ask the guy standing 10 feet from him doing nothing because that's not his job.
They would have 5 or 6 people aimlessly wondering around the from of the restaurants. Literally doing nothing, while the patrons would be waiting to get a waiter to take the order.
I've waiting 40+ minutes for a slot attendant to come and fix a paper jam on my slot machine. At one point I was so tired of waiting that I pulled my face mask down (during strict covid rules). A security guy came over nearly immediately and told me I have to put it back up.
The slot attendants replacing ticket paper would literally bring 1 (ONE) roll - or whatever you call them - of paper to the machine and replace it. Then I presume they would have to go to a back room to get another roll of paper for the next machine.
And these are just the time wasting inefficiencies. Don't get me start on all the other stupid stuff they did/do to show incompetence.
As an aside, I heard from one of my fellow APs that the tribe worked with one of the major players out of Vegas for consultation and the development of the casino. Supposedly at one point there was an important meeting where all the tribes people were late and the Vegas group gave them an ultimatum to please start taking it seriously or they would back out of the whole project. I don't know if it's true, but it's a weird story to make up - and I can totally believe it based on what I've observed myself.
Quote: McSweeney
Do you know how closely casinos track players to see exactly how much money they are down ... or UP? I'm way up after advantage playing slots for almost a full year now and I'm actually worried about getting "back roomed" and banned, thus killing the golden goose. I wonder if I should give up a couple grand a year by not ever using a player's card so they can't track my winnings. Am I just being paranoid and do casinos not track players that closely? My casino is small also so it wouldn't be that difficult to single out an unusual player who keeps winning after a large sample size of spins, which should be impossible if playing normally. Does that get flagged in their system?
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Certain slots are more... predictable... in when you will actually win. For this reason I take my card out when a big win is due (yeah, I know, out of context this sounds like something your avegarge gambler would say). According to my casino Win/Loss statement, I'm a pretty good customer for them. I'm good with that. :)
Quote: MukkeAs an aside, I heard from one of my fellow APs that the tribe worked with one of the major players out of Vegas for consultation and the development of the casino.
I suspect that all the tribes partner with an experienced non-tribal casino operator / consultant to conceptualize, develop and run their tribal casinos given that Indians know zip about the subject.
The casino near Portland was developed by partnering with Mohegan Sun; one might think the result would be very nice but I don't care for it; poor design, poor selection of games (all new, no older three reel games like Double Diamond), low RTP, hideously expensive food... the list goes on.
Quote: McSweeneyQuote: mcallister3200
When I had to take one of those problem gaming classes as a casino employee they emphasized it’s a small percentage of gamblers that have gambling problems. What they never mention is the % of casino revenue that comes from the small percentage, or the fact that that more profitable groups is turning over every several years as they no longer have the means they did. The churn/turnover of gamblers with means gambling beyond them is what casino marketing offers are all about, finding that next group.
Top tier level of MGM and CET requirements basically tell you they’re looking for problem gamblers without outright saying it. Tier status is a chasing the carrot mugs game anyhow. When CET became more strict there was terminology in denial letters to the effect of “not showing a pattern of continually increasing play” and I believe MGM has a minimum loss threshold to qualify.
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Do you know how closely casinos track players to see exactly how much money they are down ... or UP? I'm way up after advantage playing slots for almost a full year now and I'm actually worried about getting "back roomed" and banned, thus killing the golden goose. I wonder if I should give up a couple grand a year by not ever using a player's card so they can't track my winnings. Am I just being paranoid and do casinos not track players that closely? My casino is small also so it wouldn't be that difficult to single out an unusual player who keeps winning after a large sample size of spins, which should be impossible if playing normally. Does that get flagged in their system?
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I don't know how hard the casino looks at some things, but when they offer gifts you know you don't want anyway, don't pick them up. No use collecting offers which may affect what they want to judge how much to give and entice you back, I don't even bother picking up stuff even if I'm in the casino that day, if I don't have any use for it.
Quote: rxwineI don't know how hard the casino looks at some things, but when they offer gifts you know you don't want anyway, don't pick them up. No use collecting offers which may affect what they want to judge how much to give and entice you back, I don't even bother picking up stuff even if I'm in the casino that day, if I don't have any use for it.
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This is a really good point to discuss. Does picking up small gifts without play hurt your rating and future offers? I think it does.
We've heard that the casinos prefer big play on one day over smaller play on multiple days.
I think picking up small offers, even small free play, will undermine your daily theoretical.
I have a friend who has even told the boxman or floorman at craps tables to log him out so that when he plays after a 6am daily cutoff time it's not counted. This preserves big play prior to 6am.
Quote: McSweeneyQuote: mcallister3200
When I had to take one of those problem gaming classes as a casino employee they emphasized it’s a small percentage of gamblers that have gambling problems. What they never mention is the % of casino revenue that comes from the small percentage, or the fact that that more profitable groups is turning over every several years as they no longer have the means they did. The churn/turnover of gamblers with means gambling beyond them is what casino marketing offers are all about, finding that next group.
Top tier level of MGM and CET requirements basically tell you they’re looking for problem gamblers without outright saying it. Tier status is a chasing the carrot mugs game anyhow. When CET became more strict there was terminology in denial letters to the effect of “not showing a pattern of continually increasing play” and I believe MGM has a minimum loss threshold to qualify.
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Do you know how closely casinos track players to see exactly how much money they are down ... or UP? I'm way up after advantage playing slots for almost a full year now and I'm actually worried about getting "back roomed" and banned, thus killing the golden goose. I wonder if I should give up a couple grand a year by not ever using a player's card so they can't track my winnings. Am I just being paranoid and do casinos not track players that closely? My casino is small also so it wouldn't be that difficult to single out an unusual player who keeps winning after a large sample size of spins, which should be impossible if playing normally. Does that get flagged in their system?
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I’m certainly not an expert, all I’ll say is with the big companies it matters more when you’re reaching the threshold for top tier of a players club, you’re inviting a review that might not otherwise happen.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: rxwineI don't know how hard the casino looks at some things, but when they offer gifts you know you don't want anyway, don't pick them up. No use collecting offers which may affect what they want to judge how much to give and entice you back, I don't even bother picking up stuff even if I'm in the casino that day, if I don't have any use for it.
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This is a really good point to discuss. Does picking up small gifts without play hurt your rating and future offers? I think it does.
We've heard that the casinos prefer big play on one day over smaller play on multiple days.
I think picking up small offers, even small free play, will undermine your daily theoretical.
I have a friend who has even told the boxman or floorman at craps tables to log him out so that when he plays after a 6am daily cutoff time it's not counted. This preserves big play prior to 6am.
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While I'm not sure if it hurts you, I'm certain it doesn't help you.
As I was already selling stuff on ebay at the time, I'd pick up my weekly freebies and sell them on the bay, but always gave them some play. I lived in Henderson and my neighbor was a VIP at Stations. She'd drive all over the valley to pickup pasta storage containers and the like. She'd spend gas and the better part of an afternoon making the ride to Texas Station and brag about her new salad bowl.
Quote: billryanQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: rxwineI don't know how hard the casino looks at some things, but when they offer gifts you know you don't want anyway, don't pick them up. No use collecting offers which may affect what they want to judge how much to give and entice you back, I don't even bother picking up stuff even if I'm in the casino that day, if I don't have any use for it.
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This is a really good point to discuss. Does picking up small gifts without play hurt your rating and future offers? I think it does.
We've heard that the casinos prefer big play on one day over smaller play on multiple days.
I think picking up small offers, even small free play, will undermine your daily theoretical.
I have a friend who has even told the boxman or floorman at craps tables to log him out so that when he plays after a 6am daily cutoff time it's not counted. This preserves big play prior to 6am.
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While I'm not sure if it hurts you, I'm certain it doesn't help you.
As I was already selling stuff on ebay at the time, I'd pick up my weekly freebies and sell them on the bay, but always gave them some play. I lived in Henderson and my neighbor was a VIP at Stations. She'd drive all over the valley to pickup pasta storage containers and the like. She'd spend gas and the better part of an afternoon making the ride to Texas Station and brag about her new salad bowl.
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Any Chairman status player crowing about $3 gifts is living in some delusional framework. Lose thousands for a Chinese made salad spinner? I know people who drop maybe $75 to $150 week and they can’t get past gold tier. Say $250-$300 for Silver. Chairman tier locals are losing, what…$40,000 to $50,000 per year to these guys? No wonder the Fertittas burn cash in their fireplaces…the warehouses are full.
Quote: TDVegasChairman tier locals are losing, what…$40,000 to $50,000 per year to these guys? No wonder the Fertittas burn cash in their fireplaces…the warehouses are full.
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No way do you have to lose $40k or 50k to make Chairman... unless you're playing TABLES because points for tables are arbitrary, and low.
But does showing up just to pick up those $3 gifts kill your daily theo?
Quote: AlanMendelsonNo way do you have to lose $40k or 50k to make Chairman... unless you're playing TABLES because points for tables are arbitrary, and low.
Yeah I’m not sure how they qualify it beyond money action. Obviously a slot player making $1 million in wagers has an expected loss greater than a craps player playing pass and odds with $1 million in action…so I’m not sure how status is determined table games vs. slots.
The slot players here are getting destroyed, imo. I’m talking regulars. I have no real idea of slot return these days as machines have gotten much more complex and expensive. Casinos don’t divulge more than required by gaming control. I’m in Summerlin, so I go to Red Rock…but man o man they must be bleeding the Ridges and RR Country club crew like no other. These guys are peeling off $100’s into machines like a bill counting machine…fffffff.
I can play a strict low house edge craps game and they shouldn’t get more than 1 to 1.5% of action. I assume video poker and black have similar returns. Slots will siphon money like a Las Vegas beach club alcohol menu.
Quote: TDVegasQuote: AlanMendelsonNo way do you have to lose $40k or 50k to make Chairman... unless you're playing TABLES because points for tables are arbitrary, and low.
Yeah I’m not sure how they qualify it beyond money action. Obviously a slot player making $1 million in wagers has an expected loss greater than a craps player playing pass and odds with $1 million in action…so I’m not sure how status is determined table games vs. slots.
The slot players here are getting destroyed, imo. I’m talking regulars. I have no real idea of slot return these days as machines have gotten much more complex and expensive. Casinos don’t divulge more than required by gaming control. I’m in Summerlin, so I go to Red Rock…but man o man they must be bleeding the Ridges and RR Country club crew like no other. These guys are peeling off $100’s into machines like a bill counting machine…fffffff.
I can play a strict low house edge craps game and they shouldn’t get more than 1 to 1.5% of action. I assume video poker and black have similar returns. Slots will siphon money like a Las Vegas beach club alcohol menu.
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You dont need to bet a million dollars to get 300,000 points, so I dont understand why you think it costs so much to make Chairman??
Quote: AlanMendelsonBut does showing up just to pick up those $3 gifts kill your daily theo?
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At the very least, it strengthens the casino managers' opinion that low value promotions are popular and effective.
I do not need or want another new toaster, hotplate, miniblender, external cell phone battery*, set of leftover containers, stylish candy dish, bacon themed laughably small charcuterie board and knife set, casino logo t-shirt*, hip bag/fanny pack*, or sports bottle.
Many of the patrons collecting these items likely would have come in anyway, so I doubt that it's driving new traffic.
If there is a desirable item giveaway, I reasonably expect that supplies will be limited and I'll get to the counter shortly after they've begun presenting substitution gifts of leftover junk from last week. (These substitutions are a common practice explicitly allowed in the rules out here; possibly not where you are.)
*These items may have legitimate value to some. In fairness, most of the casino t-shirts make great rags in the garage.
Many of my advertising clients are in the liquidation business. A set of four microwave bowls "new in the box" might cost a casino fifty-cents. And the liquidator bought them for a quarter.
The most expensive casino "gift" is anything with a Stations logo printed on it. That printing charge could be a dollar.
Clothing? Maybe a buck a garment including shirts and hoodies.
If anyone wants a thousand pair of shoes I can get them for you at $1 a pair. LOL
Quote: AlanMendelsonYou dont need to bet a million dollars to get 300,000 points, so I dont understand why you think it costs so much to make Chairman??
Forget table games. How much money do I have to run thru the slots to achieve chairman status? Ballpark it. Traditional slots, not video poker. Is Stations still 1 point for $1 wagered?…not including multiplier days?
I can’t remember…did they change the time frame as to how long you keep your status?…meaning if you stopped playing, when do they recalculate? My goal is to achieve sub “preferred” status (red). LOL.
The enticement here for locals to get a player card….eh. A tourist coming in to Vegas with a player card and enticements, I get. They are here for 3-4-6 days, do their gambling and go home. The locals operators mindset is bleed the locals everyday…and entice them to come in everyday. I live here…but the business side has a crappy edge to it. That crappy edge is not just a business bringing in customers…but obviously knowing far too many are pouring in too much income for “entertainment”. This isn’t Walmart offering free plants to come in to the store and also buy a $6 toy for your kid. The locals casinos want you coming in with your paycheck, not $6. Rinse, repeat tomorrow.
Are you gambling regularly? 2-3-4-5 times a week?
There is no reason to play for points. Whatever points you get is just a fringe benefit.
Yes its $1 coin in per point for slots before bonuses.
Right now I'm caring for my ex wife who has leukemia and I'm not gambling at all.
Quote: AlanMendelsonRight now I'm caring for my ex wife who has leukemia and I'm not gambling at all.
Understood. Compassionate. Good man.
Quote: DieterQuote: AlanMendelsonBut does showing up just to pick up those $3 gifts kill your daily theo?
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At the very least, it strengthens the casino managers' opinion that low value promotions are popular and effective.
I do not need or want another new toaster, hotplate, miniblender, external cell phone battery*, set of leftover containers, stylish candy dish, bacon themed laughably small charcuterie board and knife set, casino logo t-shirt*, hip bag/fanny pack*, or sports bottle.
Many of the patrons collecting these items likely would have come in anyway, so I doubt that it's driving new traffic.
If there is a desirable item giveaway, I reasonably expect that supplies will be limited and I'll get to the counter shortly after they've begun presenting substitution gifts of leftover junk from last week. (These substitutions are a common practice explicitly allowed in the rules out here; possibly not where you are.)
*These items may have legitimate value to some. In fairness, most of the casino t-shirts make great rags in the garage.
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I was 35 years in the car business. You would not believe. During March Madness we would have people in their 70s lined up 100 deep for cheap basketballs.
Quote: MoscaI was 35 years in the car business. You would not believe. During March Madness we would have people in their 70s lined up 100 deep for cheap basketballs.
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I expect that the month long "buy a car, get a $2 limited edition basketball" promotion was almost as popular as the "take a test drive this Saturday and we'll give each of your kids a hotdog" promotion. That one is a huge hit around here.
Dont get excited. It's not at a Strip hotel.
He gets packages from a promotions company.
Below is a link to a (year old) local Vegas news station story on slotlady.. What's interesting is how El Cortez views her. It used to be not uncommon for a slot video to be interrupted mid spin as the camera got ditched when casino personnel walked by. Now, who knows? Promoting slot youtubers might become a new trend.
Las Vegas casino using YouTube influencer to attract new audience to gaming. (News 3 KSNV)
Quote: AlanMendelsonOne question: Why would anyone play Ultimate Texas Holdem?
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Why wouldn't they?
Quote: WizardQuote: AlanMendelsonOne question: Why would anyone play Ultimate Texas Holdem?
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Why wouldn't they?
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It looks like a game you can't win at.
One time Sarah made a comment that they make some bets just to make the videos interesting. These bets are of course high house edge bets.
If that's the case, you cant fault them for their losses. They are sacrificing their own money to entertain viewers.
In real poker, only crazy players bet blind. In UTH it seems like you're betting blind a lot.
I dont think a real poker player would find UTH an attractive game.
Its called a carnival game, isn't it? That's fitting.
A lot of people called Spanish 21 a carnival game until a little lady came along and proved everyone wrong.
Quote: billryanI've never played UTH, but someone I highly respect who used to be a regular here plays it on a regular basis and I don't think he would if it weren't a good game.
A lot of people called Spanish 21 a carnival game until a little lady came along and proved everyone wrong.
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I've never played it either. And after watching it played, I won't play it.
If you want poker, play the real game. For a $100 buyin you can play $3-$2 no limit hold'em.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: WizardQuote: AlanMendelsonOne question: Why would anyone play Ultimate Texas Holdem?
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Why wouldn't they?
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It looks like a game you can't win at.
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You know people gambling for reasons other than just making money, right?
Quote: AlanMendelsonI've never played it either. And after watching it played, I won't play it.
If you want poker, play the real game. For a $100 buyin you can play $3-$2 no limit hold'em.
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If I sat down at a "real" poker table, I would be guaranteed to lose. At least at a carnival game poker table my odds are a little better!
Quote: TigerWuQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: WizardQuote: AlanMendelsonOne question: Why would anyone play Ultimate Texas Holdem?
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Why wouldn't they?
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It looks like a game you can't win at.
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You know people gambling for reasons other than just making money, right?
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I hear that from a lot of people after they have lost.
Quote: billryanQuote: TigerWuQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: WizardQuote: AlanMendelsonOne question: Why would anyone play Ultimate Texas Holdem?
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Why wouldn't they?
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It looks like a game you can't win at.
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You know people gambling for reasons other than just making money, right?
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I hear that from a lot of people after they have lost.
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The real litmus test is if they say it after winning.
Quote: TigerWuThe real litmus test is if they say it after winning.
rubshands together while chortling: "Oh what a good boy am I..."
Assuming he is being honest (and I don't see why he wouldn't be): wow, he is making even more money off YouTube than I thought, and the fact he is STILL not making a profit is crazy and MUST mean he is doing significant off-camera gambling, because the slot losses alone don't add up.
He could have ex wives wanting alimony.
(Chuckles and coughs while rolling eyes)
Quote: McSweeneyI was watching NG Slot's livestream just now while he was playing Sahara Gold. He stated on stream, "I make $65,000 - $70,000 a month on YouTube, but I never make a profit"
Assuming he is being honest (and I don't see why he wouldn't be): wow, he is making even more money off YouTube than I thought, and the fact he is STILL not making a profit is crazy and MUST mean he is doing significant off-camera gambling, because the slot losses alone don't add up.
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No one knows. The big jackpot says the same. High limit slot players cannot cover their losses with YouTube income. Lady Luck says yes she can make a living.
NG is a VORACIOUS gambler. Everything. I’m surprised he even has time for family life between all his gambling, managing his channel and what he claims is a big jewelry business.
I do question whether all of them are being completely transparent.
I disagree that channels can’t survive off adsense revenue alone. The CPM is high enough, I think some of them are making $2-$6+ per thousand views. It’s clear BC Slots has got it all figured out, hence the style and format of his videos e.g. “$5000 in [this] [high RTP] machine”, and he will do 200 $25 spins or whatever and stop and rake in the reliable 100-150k views for it.
I have no doubt that some of the big guys are making high 6 figures a year, but I also don’t doubt NG when he says he is running at a loss. He needs to set his format more like BC Slots and he’ll be on a nice little money maker.
I know this is unrelated to Slot Lady, but her channel seems to be on the way out now anyway…
Or if someone hits the player over the head with a frying pan. BIG VIEWS.
Quote: rxwineI think the key to views is not just big wins. I think recording a big loss would pick up lots of views. "I lost 10 grand in 15 minutes"
Or if someone hits the player over the head with a frying pan. BIG VIEWS.
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Dont we all slow down to see wrecks on the freeways?
Made 597 spins
Total coin-in: $148,300.00
Lost $63,000.00
House enjoyed a 42% edge in this session
Awful luck for sure, but 597 spins is a small enough sample size where you can reasonably be screwed over that badly.
The dude just exudes a negative cloud of bad energy. Kind of funny to watch.
He once said on YouTube that his new videos are titled "Vlog (number)" and this designation is missing from the new videos.
Also MIA is John's World of Video Poker. His two latest videos show another player playing deuces wild. I suspect they were shot during previous trips and videos.
I miss both. They had good content.
If you're talking nickels and quarters, that'd be buy-in for $60, lose $10 at the 5 cent denom (200 credits), then raise your bets to the 25 cent denom (200 credits).
Reduce bets when you hit a Full House and when you'll be down less than 200 credits at the lower denom.
He was getting 5 session points per $25 spent.
Quote: ChumpChangeSo what are you supposed to do here? Buy-in for $6,000, lose $1,000 at the $5 denom (200 credits), then raise your bets to the $25 denom (200 credits)?
If you're talking nickels and quarters, that'd be buy-in for $60, lose $10 at the 5 cent denom (200 credits), then raise your bets to the 25 cent denom (200 credits).
Reduce bets when you hit a Full House and when you'll be down less than 200 credits at the lower denom.
He was getting 5 session points per $25 spent.
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I think you're referring to Slotmassacre's betting.
I don't know what his strategy is. I watch him because he sometimes mentions the correct holds on certain plays.
That he jumps around in denominations is something that I dont follow.
A massive loss.... his words.
https://youtu.be/6q9nYLjGX88
So I’m meeting a friend at the Yardhouse restaurant at Red Rock. I arrive a few minutes early and figure I’ll use it on some random machine. I think it was a Konami. I sit back, decide to order a drink (which I never do), put my “preferred” (LOL) card in, add a few bucks and bring up my free slot play.
Drink arrives, I hit a couple spins…back and forth it goes using my free play.
A guy arrives next to me and sits down at the adjacent slot. Puts in his player card. Adds in a couple hundred.
Looks over and says to me “you’re not betting enough, you’ll never win”.
LOL…the degenerates in this city amaze me. Shouldn’t, but it does.
No wonder the Fertitta family is worth $9 billion. Endless supply of local degenerates.
One question, can we compare our P/L statement for the year?
Huh?
Quote: TDVegasSo each month I get an absolutely minimal amount of free slot play from Stations Casinos here in Vegas. I’m talking minimal.
So I’m meeting a friend at the Yardhouse restaurant at Red Rock. I arrive a few minutes early and figure I’ll use it on some random machine. I think it was a Konami. I sit back, decide to order a drink (which I never do), put my “preferred” (LOL) card in, add a few bucks and bring up my free slot play.
Drink arrives, I hit a couple spins…back and forth it goes using my free play.
A guy arrives next to me and sits down at the adjacent slot. Puts in his player card. Adds in a couple hundred.
Looks over and says to me “you’re not betting enough, you’ll never win”.
LOL…the degenerates in this city amaze me. Shouldn’t, but it does.
No wonder the Fertitta family is worth $9 billion. Endless supply of local degenerates.
One question, can we compare our P/L statement for the year?
Huh?
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What game were you playing? And is it one of those slots where you need a minimum of one coin on each line to get optimum return?
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: TDVegasSo each month I get an absolutely minimal amount of free slot play from Stations Casinos here in Vegas. I’m talking minimal.
So I’m meeting a friend at the Yardhouse restaurant at Red Rock. I arrive a few minutes early and figure I’ll use it on some random machine. I think it was a Konami. I sit back, decide to order a drink (which I never do), put my “preferred” (LOL) card in, add a few bucks and bring up my free slot play.
Drink arrives, I hit a couple spins…back and forth it goes using my free play.
A guy arrives next to me and sits down at the adjacent slot. Puts in his player card. Adds in a couple hundred.
Looks over and says to me “you’re not betting enough, you’ll never win”.
LOL…the degenerates in this city amaze me. Shouldn’t, but it does.
No wonder the Fertitta family is worth $9 billion. Endless supply of local degenerates.
One question, can we compare our P/L statement for the year?
Huh?
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What game were you playing? And is it one of those slots where you need a minimum of one coin on each line to get optimum return?
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No, Alan. Simple Konami slot machine, Mammoth something…You get all lines whatever amount you play…45 cents up to whatever. No progressive where you need to bet more to partake. No lines selection.
The guy is a degenerate….JFC.
I was waiting to also hear “bet more, win more”.
