phendricks
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June 1st, 2015 at 5:28:09 AM permalink


$1 per penny movement for the "Hotter" meter and $0.60 per penny for the "Hot" meter. But is the advantage play is elsewhere?



How many wilds and what about the placement before you jump on the machine?
mcallister3200
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June 1st, 2015 at 7:28:10 AM permalink
I doubt or at least hope anyone who knows the answer is not going to answer it, these sorta plays the more people know them the less valuable and likely to be worthwhile they are.
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June 10th, 2015 at 10:48:04 AM permalink
Maybe but not much value. Ive seen another by Spielo which looks really great at first but then you realize they are break even at best and maybe even negative. That wild game is so damn dumb with the wilds normally being so worthless.
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mamat
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July 13th, 2015 at 6:53:35 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

I doubt or at least hope anyone who knows the answer is not going to answer it, these sorta plays the more people know them the less valuable and likely to be worthwhile they are.



Experiment. These are unusual machines. You might have some fun.

Cash Eruptions (sometimes known as "volcanos") are very volatile machines. The line-pays are really bad. In return, the progressives can have a 2X-5X multiplier. You can calculate play-points based on a 1X bonus (conservative) or an average 2.0X bonus (aggressive). When chasing the minor, have $300. This game has a weirdness. First saw them Feb 2014. Heaviliy AP'ed everywhere by now.

Wild Stays (Egyptian Dreams, Mystical Mania, etc...) are related to Wild Nudge & Stays. Rumor has it the machines have been tightened since they were released. Rarely, you will find an obvious "play" (whole screen of 12 wilds). How to play when 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 wilds appear is a matter of experiment. Can't make much off these, but you might get lucky with a high-paying blackout.
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July 14th, 2015 at 10:20:25 PM permalink
Quote: mamat


Wild Stays (Egyptian Dreams, Mystical Mania, etc...) .... Rarely, you will find an obvious "play" (whole screen of 12 wilds).


Very rarely - as that scenario is an impossibility.
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mamat
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July 15th, 2015 at 9:17:00 PM permalink
Quote: Puckerbutt

Very rarely - as that scenario is an impossibility.



Sorry, "whole screen" was bad term to use. I didn't mean a blackout of 20 wilds (since column 1 doesn't have wilds).
Technically, I think the best you can find is columns 2,4,5 all full of wilds (12 wilds - my poor use of "whole screen")

If column 3 were also full of wilds, it would have paid on the previous spin.
You would need a previous spin with no possible pairs in columns 1&2 (e.g. all symbols in column 1 were bonus symbol or require 3oak for payout).
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September 26th, 2015 at 11:48:17 PM permalink
There used to be a play on the cash eruption , a deliberate glitch, that the casinos have corrected.Makes me give all Spielo games a second look as maybe an AP is programming the games.
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September 27th, 2015 at 12:11:15 AM permalink
Quote: stephen.hall

There used to be a play on the cash eruption , a deliberate glitch, that the casinos have corrected.Makes me give all Spielo games a second look as maybe an AP is programming the games.



I will concur that there is often good reason to play close attention to Spielo games, and that's all I have to say about the matter specifically.
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September 28th, 2015 at 10:14:54 PM permalink
Quote: stephen.hall

There used to be a play on the cash eruption , a deliberate glitch, that the casinos have corrected.Makes me give all Spielo games a second look as maybe an AP is programming the games.



As someone who has kept that game in my AP repertoire for quite some time, there was never a "glitch" or a "correction". I've been all over from the west to the midwest and its all the same just about everywhere. In fact, I'll say that everywhere I've been, its been the same.

Here's where I think you're confused about the situation, without explaining the "glitch". When "hustler" #1 exploits the game and cashes out his profits, people take notice of the win. If the regulars see that some person multiple times per day; day after day; repeating these wins, they'll start to catch on. In the process, they'll start to catch on to what you were doing to make it "work". Unfortunately for them, they never figured the exploit out, only saw it work, and since there is a series of events that must first take place before the machine is "exploitable", they can't necessarily replicate the process that the "hustler" did. Discouraged by this, and now down a few dollars, often they become the very sample people we later exploit, unless they get as close as possible to figuring it out, without truly getting it. We "hustlers" then recognize these players and the machine and notate it as a "non play" and don't do "our thing" after they are done. For that "random ploppy" they just assume that we were lucky, though their mind is fighting them on that belief since they have seen us replicate it so often.

As more and more people start to funnel into the game's system, doing what we've done, without the "homework" and then replicating what everyone else has tried to do, ultimately our plays become fewer and less valuable because the steps required to "exploit" the process are continually being checked and tested, and otherwise cancelling out the exploit.

I've traveled the country for years living off many machines, including many spielo games like Cash Eruption, and I can tell you that the game still remains the same, its the random player who has changed and otherwise made them significantly less profitable.

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