jwblue
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April 16th, 2015 at 12:11:18 PM permalink
Has anyone been there lately?

How are they at Cannery and Boulder Station?
bobsims
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April 17th, 2015 at 12:12:06 PM permalink
Quote: jwblue

Has anyone been there lately?

How are they at Cannery and Boulder Station?



I don't think you can differentiate from the state figures. Suffice to say that the big places must have big returns to keep the figures so high. If I had to guess I would say the two you name plus Arizona Charlie's pay a little better than Sam's Town.
If you don't mind the variance the 97.4% Magnificent Seven dollar coin machines at Circus Circus are a fun time in a lot of people's book including mine. Otherwise, the dollar machines on the Boulder Strip just can't be beat.
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April 17th, 2015 at 12:38:00 PM permalink
Quote: bobsims

I don't think you can differentiate from the state figures.


Not by hotel - and even if you could, they wouldn't separate the "hot" dollar slots from the "cold" ones, other than Megabucks, which are counted separately.

Here are the levels in the report:
Downtown - Under $1M
Downtown - $1-12M
Downtown - Over $12M
Strip - Under $1M
Strip - $1-12M
Strip - $12-36M
Strip - $36-72M
Strip - Over $72M
North Las Vegas (all)
Laughlin (all)
Boulder Strip (all)
Mesquite (all)
Remainder Of Clark County - Under $1M
Remainder Of Clark County - $1M And Over
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April 17th, 2015 at 12:38:33 PM permalink
Quote: jwblue

Has anyone been there lately?............How are they at Cannery and Boulder Station?

Sorry Charlie.
You can trade rumors, make decisions on how thick their ham sandwiches are and how stiff their drinks are and you can make decisions based on whether they face Benny Binnions grave site or not.
But the GAMING BOARD has the stats and will NEVER reveal info that specifically identifies any one particular licensee.
They only group by geography and by calendar and that is it. And some of those groupings are really strange for various historical reasons.

So just remember.... if you are playing GAME X at one casino and want to play GAME X at the casino next door, the difference is probably not worth the shoe leather of the walk and certainly not worth cabfare or even a free shuttle.

Now as to Boulder vs. Cannery I'd sure go to the Cannery despite Latin Music simply because they offer better comps, more chances at free rooms if you play there website game (still running?????) and frankly I think its a nicer place. Also they are more active on Twitter and will keep you well informed of what is going on there and what their deals are.

But as for returns on games..... do not ever bother with specific figures.... the Gaming Board collects the information subject to a statutory duty to NOT disclose information that specifically identifies any one particular licensee over another. You can GUESS, but you can never VERIFY your guess as being correct or not.
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April 17th, 2015 at 4:33:31 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Sorry Charlie.
You can trade rumors, make decisions on how thick their ham sandwiches are and how stiff their drinks are and you can make decisions based on whether they face Benny Binnions grave site or not.
But the GAMING BOARD has the stats and will NEVER reveal info that specifically identifies any one particular licensee.
They only group by geography and by calendar and that is it. And some of those groupings are really strange for various historical reasons.

So just remember.... if you are playing GAME X at one casino and want to play GAME X at the casino next door, the difference is probably not worth the shoe leather of the walk and certainly not worth cabfare or even a free shuttle.

Now as to Boulder vs. Cannery I'd sure go to the Cannery despite Latin Music simply because they offer better comps, more chances at free rooms if you play there website game (still running?????) and frankly I think its a nicer place. Also they are more active on Twitter and will keep you well informed of what is going on there and what their deals are.

But as for returns on games..... do not ever bother with specific figures.... the Gaming Board collects the information subject to a statutory duty to NOT disclose information that specifically identifies any one particular licensee over another. You can GUESS, but you can never VERIFY your guess as being correct or not.



This is untrue. There are a lot of ways to get very precise info. I would say that several of them are beyond the scope of this forum, and at least one will get you 86'ed if caught. For machines where handpays are very unlikely/impossible, you can simply use the coin in/coin out meters located on the side/underneath the machine to get a rough estimate. At some places, you can use your comp dollar earning rate to at least compare machines, if not one step better.
bobsims
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April 18th, 2015 at 10:01:46 AM permalink
Quote: tongni

This is untrue. For machines where handpays are very unlikely/impossible, you can simply use the coin in/coin out meters located on the side/underneath the machine to get a rough estimate.



Can someone explain THAT allegation?
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