MrV
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December 6th, 2014 at 12:07:59 PM permalink
A.C.G. info

I wonder how accurate the info is?
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ThatDonGuy
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December 6th, 2014 at 4:27:37 PM permalink
I don't know about other states, but Nevada's numbers are public information and updated monthly.

Also, I have never heard of "straight blackjack in California card rooms is illegal even when player-dealt", but there is a "standard list of card games allowed in California card rooms", and instead of "blackjack", they list "Pure 21.5", which appears to be standard blackjack under another name ("21.5" comes from the fact that a 10 or face card is worth 10.5 if part of a 2-card hand with an ace; in other words, a blackjack is 21.5, and pays accordingly (the card room has the option to pay 6/5, 7/5, or 3/2).
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December 6th, 2014 at 4:45:28 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

A.C.G. info

I wonder how accurate the info is?



Just glancing down to WV really quick, because I am immediately familiar with their standards:

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The maximum allowable bet on a machine is $2 and there is no limit on the prize payouts.



The first part is patently false, that was changed over a decade ago. They're mixing up the casinos and the parlors, the maximum allowable bet in the parlors is $2, the casinos can have any Max they want.

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Most of the gaming machines pay out coins or tokens, but there are also some machines which will only print out a receipt which must be taken to a cashier.



That's nonsense, every casino I have visited has been TITO and the parlors are REQUIRED to be ticket-out. I don't say TITO because the parlors are not allowed to have a machine accept a ticket from another machine, the ticket must be cashed-out.

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West Virginia law requires that VLT’s return a minimum of 80% to a maximum of 95%. VLT games include: slots, blackjack, keno and numerous versions of poker.



True, except I think the casinos can duck that 95% maximum on Video Poker by having auto-holds that are wrong. One casino in WV has 9/5 JoB, 98.44% Joker Poker and a Deuces Wild that pays well over 95%, but would all probably pay less with the wrong auto-holds based on, "Best probability to win the hand."

There's also a WV casino that has UX, now, so I don't know how it gets away with that as I don't think there is a UX paytable below 95% at all.

Finally, Progressives do not go against the 95%, just the base pays.

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For the one-year period from July 1, 2013 through June 30, 2014 the average return on VLT’s was: 89.29% at Mountaineer Park, 90.63% at Tri-State Park, 89.82% at Wheeling Island and 89.75% at Charles Town Races.



That's probably true, but I am curious about why no numbers for Greenbriar Resort, still Class-III state-regulated machines, but no pari-mutuel facility.
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