100xOdds
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July 26th, 2014 at 6:54:52 AM permalink
jackpot starts at $10k.
jackpot was hit at $170k

Arcade's page on this slot:
http://www.arcade-history.com/?n=monte-carlo-royale&page=detail&id=34149

How can I tell if it's +EV?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
kimura
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August 2nd, 2014 at 10:36:19 AM permalink
There is no thing such as +EV for the slots except for the casino. Gaming houses want to mix things such as the well known +EVs in poker and blackjack and apply them to slots to fool as much fools as they. Unlike card games, slot machines odds are always a mystery. It's a software that decides and you never know
ThatDonGuy
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August 2nd, 2014 at 10:58:25 AM permalink
There's no way of telling, since there's no way of knowing what the EV is even with the minimum $10,000 jackpot. The link in the original post lists a number of different settings for the EV - and even at that, those may take the increasing progressive into account. (If the progressive grows based on coin-in, then it will never be +EV.)
odiousgambit
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August 2nd, 2014 at 11:00:12 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

How can I tell if it's +EV?



if it's an online casino, there are a lot more questions than that to answer
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AxelWolf
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August 2nd, 2014 at 11:07:52 AM permalink
Quote: kimura

There is no thing such as +EV for the slots except for the casino. Gaming houses want to mix things such as the well known +EVs in poker and blackjack and apply them to slots to fool as much fools as they. Unlike card games, slot machines odds are always a mystery. It's a software that decides and you never know

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Some slots do Have an advantage.

there are also other ways to play slots and get an advantage.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
kimura
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August 2nd, 2014 at 11:53:11 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Some slots do Have an advantage.

there are also other ways to play slots and get an advantage.



Yes I know that I don't see how the slot machine decides for me and I can't expect it at any time to be +EV, other than trusting eye blinded the casino. Otherwise go ahead and play the slots I don't care.
kimura
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August 2nd, 2014 at 12:06:55 PM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

There's no way of telling, since there's no way of knowing what the EV is even with the minimum $10,000 jackpot. The link in the original post lists a number of different settings for the EV - and even at that, those may take the increasing progressive into account. (If the progressive grows based on coin-in, then it will never be +EV.)



That's it. But supposedly as some think that the payout of the machine for the jackpot is not an indepent event, the probability of hitting the jackpot should stay the same. If it's the case, then yes there could be a + EV for a slot machine. But there is no way of knowing that. There is no way either to verify that the jackpot isn't programmed for a specific person to win. Of course, you can trust, but trusting in general is not +EV.
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August 2nd, 2014 at 6:41:52 PM permalink
Quote: kimura

That's it. But supposedly as some think that the payout of the machine for the jackpot is not an indepent event, the probability of hitting the jackpot should stay the same. If it's the case, then yes there could be a + EV for a slot machine. But there is no way of knowing that. There is no way either to verify that the jackpot isn't programmed for a specific person to win. Of course, you can trust, but trusting in general is not +EV.

This is not true. You can get par sheets or track machines, look at coin in coin out meters, get inside information, Just assume they are the lowest possible @ 75%. There are Plus EV situations on slots all over ,all day long that people can easily identify and play confidently with a profit and do well over a short and long period of time.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
kimura
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August 2nd, 2014 at 10:29:12 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

This is not true. You can get par sheets or track machines, look at coin in coin out meters, get inside information, Just assume they are the lowest possible @ 75%. There are Plus EV situations on slots all over ,all day long that people can easily identify and play confidently with a profit and do well over a short and long period of time.



I don't know if you believe what you're saying if you do you're a dumbass if you don't you're a faece. It's probably the latter one.
AxiomOfChoice
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August 2nd, 2014 at 10:39:28 PM permalink
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I don't know if you believe what you're saying if you do you're a dumbass if you don't you're a faece. It's probably the latter one.



You understand that this is what he does for a living, right?

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