Gialmere
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December 2nd, 2018 at 8:10:12 PM permalink
I'm trying to get this game down pat (it's on my casino game bucket list) and have one question. An unsuited "A, 2, 3, 4, 5" is called "The Wheel" and (in most casinos) is the second highest straight. So then is a suited "A, 2, 3, 4, 5" (called something clever) the second highest straight flush?
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December 2nd, 2018 at 8:19:27 PM permalink
A suited wheel is called a steel wheel. No idea if it's ranked as the 2nd highest straight flush though.
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December 2nd, 2018 at 8:21:51 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

I'm trying to get this game down pat (it's on my casino game bucket list) and have one question. An unsuited "A, 2, 3, 4, 5" is called "The Wheel" and (in most casinos) is the second highest straight. So then is a suited "A, 2, 3, 4, 5" (called something clever) the second highest straight flush?



I have a pretty good feeling that will never need to be answered for you at a casino.
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December 2nd, 2018 at 9:34:16 PM permalink
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I have a pretty good feeling that will never need to be answered for you at a casino.


Heh, I suppose it wouldn't even if I spent a lifetime dealing Pai Gow in a casino. But I'm a rules junkie, the type of person who reads game rules as a form of relaxation (and hit a mother load at the Wizard sites). I got dealt a wheel while practicing on the play-for-free game here. Not surprisingly it simply won outright as a straight in back, but it got me wondering. Has the wheel ever been used as a sweetener in a side bet (with/without joker, steel etc)? I don't see it in the ones listed at Woo so I suppose not. But if a game's going to have such a quirky rule then why not squeeze all the juice you can out of it?
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December 2nd, 2018 at 9:39:31 PM permalink
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Heh, I suppose it wouldn't even if I spent a lifetime dealing Pai Gow in a casino. But I'm a rules junkie, the type of person who reads game rules as a form of relaxation (and hit a mother load at the Wizard sites). I got dealt a wheel while practicing on the play-for-free game here. Not surprisingly it simply won outright as a straight in back, but it got me wondering. Has the wheel ever been used as a sweetener in a side bet (with/without joker, steel etc)? I don't see it in the ones listed at Woo so I suppose not. But if a game's going to have such a quirky rule then why not squeeze all the juice you can out of it?



Yes. In EZ PaiGow, Dan Lubin (the inventor, and a greatly missed member here -RIP) called the Steel Wheel the Lubin wheel and put it on the bonus paytable. Think it was 100-1? Should be listed on the Woo site under that game.

Last place I played EZ PGP, they had changed the name to something sort of Chinese, but I don't remember the word. Not sure why that happened. But it still pays.
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December 3rd, 2018 at 8:37:25 AM permalink
I did a quick search and found at least three states that specifically mention A-2-3-4-5 as the highest ranking straight flush in their gaming regs. PA, MA, and MD
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December 3rd, 2018 at 8:46:52 AM permalink
The highest? Whoa. Curiouser and curiouser.
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December 3rd, 2018 at 8:53:17 AM permalink
Not curious at all, just a matter of semantics. Traditional poker rankings list suited AKQJT as a royal flush, not straight flush. A-2-3-4-5 is the second highest straight and if it's suited, it's the highest straight flush (still obv ranked lower than a royal flush.)
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December 3rd, 2018 at 9:06:42 AM permalink
But if you have 5 aces and a pair of kings, should you play the full house with aces up or the 4 aces with the kings up?
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December 3rd, 2018 at 9:24:12 AM permalink
In general opt to play unbeatable hands over hands that can be beaten

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