pai gow poker
Quote: DJTeddyBearAs I understand it, player banking is discouraged, or even forbidden, on the EZ table, everywhere it is played.
Some places allow it, restoring a 5% banker's commission, but only for the banking player. The non-banking players NEVER pay a commission, even against a banking player. -Some places, most, just say, "No banking - if you wanna bank, go to the poker room." Some poker rooms offer player-banked Pai Gow Poker exclusively.
Quote: DJTeddybearIf allowed, they revert back to the 5% commission, which means they need quarters on the table.
No. If player banking is allowed, AND there are no quarters on the table, the banker simply pays the commission up to the next full dollar.
Quote: DJTeddybearIf you don't see quarters, don't expect player banking to be allowed.
No. All EZ Pai Gow tables have no lose coinage, the lowest token in use on the table is the white $1 chip.
If banking is allowed, then the banker pays up to the next full dollar.
We recommend to our casino operators to remove both player banking and the purchase of the dragon hand, to speed up the game.
This is a general trend in Pai Gow Poker.
The Shufflemaster I-Deal table on Fortune Pai Gow cannot handle banking players, and still maintain its hand-dealt-to-the-player-position computer.
Quote: TheBigPaybakFair enough, would have been more accurate to say my neck of the woods... :)
It's time to move to civilization! (Chicago)
Quote: FinsRuleIt's time to move to civilization! (Chicago)
Hah! I enjoy civilization known as Chicago- besides the traffic, anyway.. :)
Used to go about once a month for business, and we'd stop at the Majestic Star on the way home. There would be this guy, who would always lose and scream, "Only at Majestic!" - at least at the time it was amusing...
Quote: Paigowdan
This is a general trend in Pai Gow Poker.
The Shufflemaster I-Deal table on Fortune Pai Gow cannot handle banking players, and still maintain its hand-dealt-to-the-player-position computer.
Doesn't it work exactly like with dice? The player-banker is position 1, and you just count from there?
-Any general tips for a new Pai Gow Poker player?
-In another thread, the wizard said that when a player is banking it is good etiquette for the other players to reduce their bets to bring more closely align with the banking player's betting level. How often do players actually do this? -
Any other etiquette tips?
Quote: JimRockfordThis thread kind of diverged from the OP's question, so I thought I would revive it.
-Any general tips for a new Pai Gow Poker player?
-In another thread, the wizard said that when a player is banking it is good etiquette for the other players to reduce their bets to bring more closely align with the banking player's betting level. How often do players actually do this? -
Any other etiquette tips?
General tips - Be cordial to other players. Besides that, have fun and relax. It's a very social game. As long as you know basic splitting rules, you'll be fine.
I've never seen anyone reduce their bets when someone was banking. I guess if everyone was being friendly at the table, it's a possibility, but I think it would be rude to ask someone to do it.
I love Pai Gow Poker!
1) The table full of carnival game players. These players typically know nothing about banking. If someone at the table does bank, the rest of the players will usually bet because they still think they're trying to beat the dealer's hand and won't know otherwise until the dealer resolves his hand, discards it, and moves the banking player's hand in front of him before resolving everyone else's bets. Don't expect these types of players to reduce their bet or sit out when you are banking. Expect a blank stare if you ask them if they mind if you bank.
2) The table full of Asian players. These players will often bank after losing a big bet. Non-banking players will typically sit out while another player banks, furthering the "us against them" camaraderie. If they had placed their bet before noticing that a player is going to bank the next hand, they will typically pull it back. Sometimes you'll see a player at this type of table bet big against the house but only the table minimum against a banking player, to stave off boredom and/or keep the game friendly.
I personally prefer the second type of table. You stand a better chance of making more money (or losing less) from banking at the first type of table, but you might make enemies too, when people who didn't realize they were playing against you watch you win their money (especially if they would have beaten the dealer's hand that round, but lost to yours).
I hardly ever play Pai Gow Poker anymore since I insist on banking whenever it is my turn, and it almost never goes well. I'm not talking about winning or losing; I'm talking about some player getting pissed or the dealer doing it wrong. Funny enough, I will play Pai Gow tiles even if I can't bank as much as I would like since I rarely get to play.Quote: JBThere are basically two types of Pai Gow Poker tables:
1) The table full of carnival game players. These players typically know nothing about banking. If someone at the table does bank, the rest of the players will usually bet because they still think they're trying to beat the dealer's hand and won't know otherwise until the dealer resolves his hand, discards it, and moves the banking player's hand in front of him before resolving everyone else's bets. Don't expect these types of players to reduce their bet or sit out when you are banking. Expect a blank stare if you ask them if they mind if you bank.
2) The table full of Asian players. These players will often bank after losing a big bet. Non-banking players will typically sit out while another player banks, furthering the "us against them" camaraderie. If they had placed their bet before noticing that a player is going to bank the next hand, they will typically pull it back. Sometimes you'll see a player at this type of table bet big against the house but only the table minimum against a banking player, to stave off boredom and/or keep the game friendly.
I personally prefer the second type of table. You stand a better chance of making more money (or losing less) from banking at the first type of table, but you might make enemies too, when people who didn't realize they were playing against you watch you win their money (especially if they would have beaten the dealer's hand that round, but lost to yours).
Quote: teddysI hardly ever play Pai Gow Poker anymore since I insist on banking whenever it is my turn, and it almost never goes well. I'm not talking about winning or losing; I'm talking about some player getting pissed or the dealer doing it wrong. Funny enough, I will play Pai Gow tiles even if I can't bank as much as I would like since I rarely get to play.
Agreed. PGP would be my go-to game for comp earning if I could comfortably bank every other hand. But it pisses off everyone else at the table and it can get ugly. Playing as player only is too expensive.
Quote: rdw4potusDoesn't it work exactly like with dice? [the Shufflemaster's I-deal Pai Gow table random number generator] The player-banker is position 1, and you just count from there?
Yes and no.
Yes - the number is the start position of the first packet dealt, always, and regardless of whether dice or a random number generator is used.
No - the i-Deal computer reads the cards as dealt and also knows the start position number (although it does not decide it), and so it can spot and verify gaffed hands, and know what each hand is. It also can recommend the house way for each position from this information, if asked. By banking or using the dragon hand, the I-deal's "positional computer" becomes disoriented in these cases.
