Ill be shocked all to hell. I would think that's the best bet.Quote: Mission146
Honestly, if that bet comes to fruition'
Quote: Mission146If you mean that, you're going to need to carve out a few days in your schedule...lol
And may I suggest some Advil. And do it on a sunny day. With trappist monks humming in the background.
It wasn't pretty =/
Quote: Mission146If you mean that, you're going to need to carve out a few days in your schedule...lol
So I see LOL.
Meanwhile has anyone (not) read the National Lampoon's 'Iceberg Lettuce and Coffee Diet' I found it hilariously funny especially the testimonials and recipes.
The diet advice is so bad and so potentially life threatening that National Lampoon took the web pages down. Some idiot must have taken it seriously and sued their asses.
Meanwhile, you can read about it here http://jerrysoverinsky.com/pdfs/PubWeb/NLDiet.pdf in a rather messed up pdf format.
Don't try this at home.
"Phase III is where the magic begins. Your middle-age paunch will be replaced by rib-cage abs, signs that your body has completely
acclimated to the LCD lifestyle. And don’t be alarmed at intermittent blackouts or muscle failure—they’re temporary symptoms that are
byproducts of any successful weight management program.
Expected weight loss: 15% of body weight per week."
Quote: Mission146. . .the greater the amount there is for HotBlonde to win in dollars, the Probability of her being successful also goes up in some way.
Well good for her, I say.
Currently reading that other, rather long thread. I don't have advil or trappist monks. Will Jack Daniels do?
Quote: OnceDearWell good for her, I say.
Well, yeah, I agree.
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that fact, I am simply suggesting that, whatever side of the bet that you want to get in on, it is something that you should keep in mind. That is both the current amount that it appears HotBlonde will stand to win as well as any potential future amounts that she could stand to win.
Currently, I think the, 'Yes,' side has the Advantage at Even Money, but I would never propose Taking the, 'Yes,' at Even Money because that is exactly the bet HotBlonde is offering to all takers and I would be jumping in on her action. I'm not quite to the point where I would Lay to someone wanting to take the, 'No,' (which would mean I am making a better offer than HotBlonde) but someone would certainly have to Lay to me in order for me to take the, 'No.'
Whether or not the 5k bet transpires, however, is a huge Variable right now to the extent that the only way I would be comfortable Taking the, 'No,' would have me operating from the assumption that the 5k bet happens...and, of course, would require someone to Lay so much for me to Take the, 'No,' that nobody would actually want to do it.
By the way, I think since there seems to be serious money between HB and WoN, I would recommend that they agree in advance on a final scale to be used. And a final time of day to do the final weigh in. When I get on my home scale it may say 180.2, then a minute later 180.8. I also think you should specify whether HB can get on the scale more than once with the lowest number used, or just one time. Nailing down these details in advance could avoid arguments later.
Quote: JoelDezeMy Mom's 89. I'll send you a pic!! :)
I prefer a bikini shot.
I'm hoping my calculations all work out because in the first 10 weeks of my challenge last year I not only ate only 1,200-1,300 calories per day but I went to the gym 5 days a week (so that was 50 times over the course of 10 weeks - cardio each of those days and weight resistance training added in during the last 4 weeks of those 10 weeks) and by doing all that I lost an average of 3.96 pounds per week. So my new calculations say I can lose 2.85 pounds per week eating 1,735 calories a day down to 1,050 calories a day towards the end, and this would be without added exercise. These 2.85 pounds a week weight loss calculations also include being allowed up to 1 cheat day per week. If I'm very, very strict and only take a cheat day on special occasions (Thanksgiving, Christmas Day, New Years Eve, etc.) I calculate I can lose 3.57 pounds per week without adding in exercise.
Right now I have my gym membership frozen cause I wasn't using it and I can unfreeze it at any time but I may just wait until next month to do so for various reasons and can start going to the gym to aid in my weight loss.
Why don't we say something like I have to be my goal weight of 164.6 or less 4 weeks after my May 13th birthday or something like that?Quote: WizardofnothingI am not putting any of this down until we determine if there is sufficient time that the weight has to stay off- clearly if it's enough money at the end she could starve herself and die and I'm not looking for that
Quote: WizardofnothingFour weeks would require too many weigh in- I'm ok with 10-14 days with a weigh in every 3rd day. If it's too late to leave by you could put 10 pounds back on and then lose it again 3 weeks later
I'm not sure I understand. Remember May 13th is my birthday and I very likely will be going on vacation or taking time off one way or another so that's why I'm saying 4 weeks after my birthday I would still have to be at 164.6 or less. I don't know what you mean by too many weigh ins and why I would have to weigh in every 3 days after my birthday. I also don't understand your last sentence.
Not only do I have a dozen personal trainer buddies that I talk about this stuff all all the time at my MMA gym, but I've personally cut weight for fights as well. If you're working out 5 days per week your calories right now should be at about 1500, and as you lose weight they should slightly diminish as well. Be careful not to get your calorie count too low though, or the body will go in to starvation mode and basically stop your metabolism because it thinks you're starving to death on a tropical island with Mike (only if you're under 18 or over 88 though). =)
I don't see why if money's on the line and you're serious enough you wouldn't consult a dietitian and/or a personal trainer. If you find one with any kind of math background they can give you all these numbers more precise.
..yet another "variable" not discussed. These types of bets often come with a TON of outside variables.
p.p.s. I cut 10 lbs of water weight for my last fight the day before, and I was clearly in great shape at that time. There should easily be a clause about that in there (or not if I'm betting that you can do it lol).
The first 10 weeks of my weight loss in 2012 here is a snipet of what went down:
Even though I finished at 211.2 pounds after the 10th week, I weighed in at 217.8 pounds 8 weeks later after the 18th week, having gained, not lost, 6.6 pounds 2 months later.
Overall, this is how I did:
"Originally Expected Weight" was what I expected to achieve according to calculations I came up with at the beginning of the challenge. "Necessary Weight" was what was absolutely necessary in order for me to hit the 90 pound weight loss in order to win the challenge. "Real Weight" was what really happened over the course of the challenge.
As you can see according to the chart I barely won the challenge at the end!
Thought some of you might find this stuff interesting.
Quote: HotBlondeOk, first of all you need to relax. You asked if I wanted to enter a side bet with you and I said no. That doesn't mean that I don't have a long-term plan or don't plan on keeping the weight off. I'm on here concentrating on losing this weight and you want me to enter a bet with you that won't be resolved for years and I'm not interested at this point. So please don't twist things around. And I'm not concerned at all that I "might just gain it all back again, as before" as you said. One thing does not equal another. Just because I don't want to take your bet doesn't mean that I fear I'm going to gain the weight back. So again, just relax.
I am relaxed, HB. Very much so. I put a bet out there: you refused it. I made a comment giving my opinion on the issue. I need to relax? No, you need to relax. After all...you put this all out on the Internet, not me. Don't expect to do so and then think everything that you hear will be positive.
There is so little interest in this bet that it is obvious most think you can do it...good luck with it!
Quote: OnceDearWell good for her, I say.
Currently reading that other, rather long thread. I don't have advil or trappist monks. Will Jack Daniels do?
OK. I just zipped through that thread speed reading every second page. I saw suspensions, bitchy comments, negativity, drugs, injuries, dancing, lawyers, hospital fees, afflictions, Evenbob being all negative, friends falling out, Evenbob being all negative, welching, friends getting back together. Evenbob being all negative, members leaving, members joining, blah blah blah.
I didn't see anything that surprised me. I didn't see anything that shed light on why EvenBob thinks I 'just don't get it'
So HB bad a wager that some considered a safe bet and some considered a no-hoper. I saw odds of 9:1 which I wouldn't personally have accepted.
Kudos to HB for going through a gruelling 9 month ordeal and ultimately taking several $k in the process.
I don't give a toss what her motivation was, whether she should have needed financial incentive to improve her wellbeing.
I don't give a toss that she got good odds.
I don't give a toss that her thread was something of a car crash or that it dominated the forum.
I REALLY don't give a toss what people think about her putting the weight back on.
What I see is that a fellow human being sought support in motivating her to do something worthwhile and that she then ran with it through thick and thin ( No pun intended). I admire the example that she set and I'd like to offer what encouragement I can to her to do it again.
I've not offered HB particularly good odds and that is still between us to work through. Maybe our preferred charities will get a bite of the cake this time. HB seems up for that.
So, I repeat. Kudos to HB for that last success and good luck for the next one. I look forward to losing my wager.
Lest we forget what was achieved...
Quote: OnceDearEvenbob being all negative, friends falling out,
I was positive at the start, then I said
something she misunderstood and
she let me have it with both barrels,
here and in a PM. That was enough
for me and from then on I was not a
fan, to say the least. If you want to
pay her to lose weight, it's your
money to waste.
Quote: OnceDearOK. I just zipped through that thread speed reading every second page. I saw suspensions, bitchy comments, negativity, drugs, injuries, dancing, lawyers, hospital fees, afflictions, Evenbob being all negative, friends falling out, Evenbob being all negative, welching, friends getting back together. Evenbob being all negative, members leaving, members joining, blah blah blah.
With all that already, how could anybody not like this thread?
Quote: WizardWith all that already, how could anybody not like this thread?
It'll never happen again, we're wised up now.
This thread will die a quiet death with barely
a sputter.
Indeed. your opinion and attitude changed. I saw that. I didn't concern myself as to why.Quote: EvenBobI was positive at the start,
I saw that too. A lot went on in that thread. Lots of taking sides and switching sides. Made for an entertaining read. No-one is obliged to read it. No-one's obliged to contribute. I thank you for your note of caution to me.Quote:. . .from then on I was not a fan, to say the least.
Quite so. I have it to waste on whatever floats my boat.Quote:If you want to pay her to lose weight, it's your money to waste.
Quote: EvenBobIt'll never happen again, we're wised up now.
Maybe I haven't.
Won why not just make the goal day 10 days earlier and final weigh in on the original planned end date?
You need to do a challenge.... seriously. Ill be betting the NO heavy and sending you cases of Jolt soda.Quote: GWAEHB good luck on the challenge. I am nearly 300 as well. I was going to suggest a side bet between us about who can lose more in the time frame but I feel I would get smoked. We are leaving for vacation tomorrow and I have my gym membership starting on Aug 1st.
Won why not just make the goal day 10 days earlier and final weigh in on the original planned end date?
No but seriously, Even if you lost the challenge and got close to your goal it would be a successful situation. You're kids and wife want you to be around for a long time.
At least I think Mrs.GWAE wants you around a bit longer, I have to see how big the life insurance plan is (-;
Is there a bet or not? 10 days is meaningless. I can't get any bets down until we know if this bet is going to happen or not, and time is ticking.Quote: WizardofnothingBecause the whole part about her being her birthday and wanting to indulge is what makes it harder for her
FYI I would never bet that much unless there was a full body scan.
Quote: WizardofnothingThe ten days is not meaningless - I'm not going to make a bet if she could possible starve herself to make weight then the next day's gain 15 pounds- it would be like a food challenge and throwing up right away after you shoved it down .
I don't know why you're thinking I'm going to have to starve myself to make weight. I will have traveled almost a year to get to 164.6 pounds or below, I'm sure I'll have enough cushion where I won't have to do something like that. You're thinking in the extreme.
Quote: WizardofnothingOk I'll pass then. No worries, best of luck
I don't know why you're being so demanding about extra days. Now I'm doubting you were even serious in the first place.
Quote: Wizardofnothingit would be like a food challenge and throwing up right away after you shoved it down
and that's like collapsing at the finish line of a race. It's perfectly legitimate and shows a certain level of focus: that the person put in maximum effort. The challenge is for her to weigh 164 on her 40th birthday. If a certain weight loss could be achieved without extreme measure it shouldn't be considered a challenge.
Pay meQuote: AxelWolfIll be shocked all to hell. I would think that's the best bet.
Quote: AxelWolfYou need to do a challenge.... seriously. Ill be betting the NO heavy and sending you cases of Jolt soda.
No but seriously, Even if you lost the challenge and got close to your goal it would be a successful situation. You're kids and wife want you to be around for a long time.
At least I think Mrs.GWAE wants you around a bit longer, I have to see how big the life insurance plan is (-;
Haha I would need at least 8 to 1 and even thay would be like burning money.
Someone could clean up every few years if they had skinny twin or doppelganger.
Google Ted Forrest weight loss bet. Considering you have made it to 164 previously on the same bet
Whew, what a thread! I wasn't around for the last HB challenge or what-have-you, but have heard about it, and may have skimmed through the thread a bit, but never took much interest in it. Wasn't it like 200 pages or something? HB challenge confuses me with the juicie-jenny thing or whatever that was all about.
Anywho, it seems like since she's done this before, either you're going to need good odds if you're betting on the NO...or for even-money you'd need a time-thingie in place, like ya gotta be X weight within Y days (after) the "final" weigh-in.
It'd be like betting Hussein Bolt if he could run a 400 yard dash in 12 seconds (or however fast he's run it before). Are we gonna go bet PokerGrinder he can't eat 100 McNuggets [again]?
I'm just curious, this whole thing about "cutting weight" just before the final weigh in on May 13th, how does 10 days make a difference? Couldn't someone cut weight 10 days later as well?Quote: WizardofnothingThat was pretty much my point
Quote: HotBlondeI'm just curious, this whole thing about "cutting weight" just before the final weigh in on May 13th, how does 10 days make a difference? Couldn't someone cut weight 10 days later as well?
I may be mistaken, but I believe I recall him saying in a previous post that he would want it stipulated that you would be weighed every second or third day during that ten days.
Quote: Mission146I may be mistaken, but I believe I recall him saying in a previous post that he would want it stipulated that you would be weighed every second or third day during that ten days.
I think he may have said something like that but as I explained it will be my 40th birthday and I'm very likely going to be on vacation or out of town or just living it up with friends and family that week.
Quote: WizardofnothingExactky like mission said- if that is not agreeable to you I will take 500 at 6-5. With no other stipulations
Please repeat what it was you originally asked for. Sorry, too many pages to search through. I may consider your original offer.
1. Buy a leptin-disrupting supplement online or in your drugstore and take it for about a month. Leptin is a hormone that occurs naturally in the body, discovered in the 1980's. Leptin acts to causes your body weight to plateau (like a thermostat -except for body weight.) When you starve yourself, Leptin allows your body to minimize the weight loss, when you stuff yourself Leptin helps you to avoid weight gain. A supplement that targets leptin allows you to take weight off naturally and easily.
2. After a month, stop taking the leptin-disrupting supplement but continue to eat more sensible foods.
3. As you lose weight, it should become easier for you to find the energy to do some simple exercises. So exercise - find an exercise that you can do that elevates your breathing rate and heart rate and do it at least 3 times a week.
I was moderately overweight at 205 pounds. About a year ago I started the above process.
- I lost 7lbs in the first week when taking a leptin supplement.
- My weight loss was a total of 15 lbs after the first three weeks.
- Without rigid dieting - but just cutting down on sweets and pastries -I have continued to gradually lose weight. I have now lost a total of 25 lbs in the first year.
I think if you are more overweight than I was, you can achieve larger weight reductions.
What side are you looking for? Ill give you slightly better than even money on the no. I wanted to see how much action came in. And if she was planning on using that one weight loss site or any other forum.Quote: djatcnobody offering lines? I am dissapoint
Ill need your money escrowed (-;