HotBlonde Challenge Round 2
Quote: teddysWhat about trivia knowledge?
My style of flirting is to spray women like a fire hose with difficult trivia questions they probably can't answer. It has not worked very well.
Quote: HotBlondeI may consider this.Quote: DRichHotblonde, I believe you can set your mind to it and do it. I would be willing to bet $5 for every pound you are over or under your target weight. If you are under on your target weight I will pay you $5 for every pound under and you pay me $5 for every pound you are over. If you make your target weight we would be even.
In any case good luck to you.
There could be a lot of value on action points.
Quote: HotBlondeWould anyone be interested if I start a new challenge? Do I have any takers? Ideas? Thoughts?
I'm interested.
Let me know your terms and wager size.
I'd suggest I donate $1 per pound lost to the charity of your choice if you lose say 75-100lb in some agreed timescale and an extra $100 to you personally if you have also achieved one of the following:-
Lost 101lb
Got Married ( assuming you are single )
Got Pregnant or had a child ( I'll allow a 10lb handicap for that. )
I'd ask that you provide swimsuit photos of the start and end weigh-in, because. . . well because $:o)
Actually, that might be enough incentive for me just to sponsor you. $:o)
Is that fair and not too pervy?
Quote: OnceDearGot Pregnant or had a child ( I'll allow a 10lb handicap for that. )
I think it is in bad taste to incentivize that.
Quote: OnceDear
I'd ask that you provide swimsuit photos of the start and end weigh-in, because. . . well because $:o)
In the original HotBlonde Challenge thread, a few pages from the end of the thread is an excellent photo of HotBlonde with Mike. I also could not open the original 'before' pictures.
Quote: WizardI think it is in bad taste to incentivize that.
Maybe bad taste Mike, but I'm seriously incentivising HB to achieve what she apparently aspires to achieve.
Quote: HotBlondeMy main incentive to lose this weight is to be at a healthy weight by my 40th birthday which is coming up in May of 2017. So this is big to me. Not to mention the fact that I am still single and want to get married and have kids and my biological clock is winding down.
So having my 40th birthday as a target and being motivated to have my body in a better place to find a potential husband really are my main goals. I figured throwing in the betting if anyone is interested would be a fun incentive to add into the mix.
I'd be delighted if my tongue in cheek offer would help HB achieve her end goals even if she didn't achieve it just by losing weight.
Anyway. No offence meant. Sorry to HB if I have offended her. Indeed apologies to anyone who finds my style or comments in bad taste.
As a penance. HB, Name any non-religious charity of your choice, and I'll send them $40 or equivalent.
Quote: SOOPOOIn the original HotBlonde Challenge thread, a few pages from the end of the thread is an excellent photo of HotBlonde with Mike. I also could not open the original 'before' pictures.
Thanks,
I located a before and after pair of pics from the first challenge. Wow. very impressive. The 'after' looks like a supermodel. The 'before' was still a hot blonde. The transformation was awesome.
Sincerest good wishes in your challenge, HB. If you can make a few dollars out of this challenge, so much the better. In any case, love yourself absolutely.
Quote: WizardMy style of flirting is to spray women like a fire hose with difficult trivia questions they probably can't answer. It has not worked very well.
It actually works quite well, you just don't know it.
There are women everywhere, but you need to find fun ones. The trivia challenges sort out out the ones who you wouldn't think are fun.
Quote: OnceDearI'm interested.
Let me know your terms and wager size.
I'd suggest I donate $1 per pound lost to the charity of your choice if you lose say 75-100lb in some agreed timescale and an extra $100 to you personally
$100 to her personally? Oh my. You really
don't get what this is about.
Quote: EvenBob$100 to her personally? Oh my. You really
don't get what this is about.
True. Enlighten me.
She has won and paid people who lost money.Quote: houyiFor the purposes of any bet being made, is OP being made to have some waiting period after the weigh-in to ensure that she didn't just cut the last 10 lbs from water weight via cycling in a sauna only to gain it all back when she takes a drink of water? Furthermore, how exactly would weight be independently verified? There are seemingly many angles for a bet like this, and though I am not specifically accusing OP of taking any shots, I question why anyone would want to bet a stranger online for something like this.
Quote: houyiFor the purposes of any bet being made, is OP being made to have some waiting period after the weigh-in to ensure that she didn't just cut the last 10 lbs from water weight via cycling in a sauna only to gain it all back when she takes a drink of water?
No, any weight manipulation should be expected and accounted for in the price of any bets.
It can be done on both ends to both get a false high reading in the beginning and a false low reading at the end. I could "lose" 20 pounds in one day without too much trouble. Probably 30 pounds or more in one day with liberal use of the sauna and lasix.
Since you won't negotiate bets on the future weight situation, I'll assume that you are fairly concerned that you might just gain it all back again, as before.
Consider this--what is your new found husband going to think about that when it happens?
I'm out of the betting...
Quote: JohnzimboHB did you try to snag a hubby when you lost the weight the first time?
I know a lady who married a couple years ago: she was quite, ahem, "large" at that time.
Immediately after marriage she had gastric bypass surgery done, and lost a lot of weight, and got a "boob job" as well.
Her husband could not accept the "new" woman, and wouldn't touch her: hello, divorce.
The moral of the story: some guys love BBW's.
It's a matter of personal taste.
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You need a wing man, Mike. You'd be amazed how well this DOES work when I'm asking you and her the questions... I seem like the mean guy for asking hard questions, but you seem like the super smart knight because you can answer them all and you two can be like a "team."Quote: WizardMy style of flirting is to spray women like a fire hose with difficult trivia questions they probably can't answer. It has not worked very well.
As far as the thread, I've tried to stay out of it mostly because I don't know HB very well and never interacted with her... but from my perspective alone it just looks like she wants paid to do something she kind of already wants to do. She's already done it before, and it's kind of a "yeah, bet me I can't do it again!" but we already know you can do it... hell anyone can do it if they eat properly and exercise.
Also, she keeps calling it a diet and doesn't want to take longer term bets. I could understand the hesitation to not want a bet that won't resolve for 5 years, but I kind of agree that it sounds like she wants to drop a bunch of weight, lock a guy down, then not really care if she gains it back after that... which as a guy to me seems a bit like a trick, or false advertising =/. I'll reiterate once more that I don't know HB that well and still wish her the best of luck in both the LIFESTYLE change for weight loss and finding a significant other.
Quote: WizardofnothingAre you willing to escrow the money with missin146 or Mike or babs? What is he max bet you will take?
I don't think any escrow is needed, there wasn't any last time and there were thousands of dollars involved. I wouldn't involve babs in any of my personal affairs. She has made it clear to me from very early on that she doesn't like me although I have never done anything personally to her (some women are catty when it comes to other women they perceive as some kind of threat, even if it's a virtual threat).
Not sure there is a max bet I'll take. I can pretty much match any bet as long as it's not like $1 million or something like that (which we would then need an escrow for). I'll say up to $50k, but it's HIGHLY unlikely I'll get anyone to match that much, I'm guessing Mike and I will be the only ones involved in this bet due to current lack of betting interest from the forum.
Quote: AxelWolfI assume there will be an official weigh-in?
Other than with WOV members do you have bets going on this?
Official weigh in for the beginning or the end? And I have no objection to a final weigh in (or beginning weigh in either). I currently don't have any friends or family betting against me even though I did in the last challenge.
Quote: OnceDearI'm interested.
Let me know your terms and wager size.
I'd suggest I donate $1 per pound lost to the charity of your choice if you lose say 75-100lb in some agreed timescale and an extra $100 to you personally if you have also achieved one of the following:-
Lost 101lb
Got Married ( assuming you are single )
Got Pregnant or had a child ( I'll allow a 10lb handicap for that. )
I'd ask that you provide swimsuit photos of the start and end weigh-in, because. . . well because $:o)
Actually, that might be enough incentive for me just to sponsor you. $:o)
Is that fair and not too pervy?
I like your ideas. If you'd like to make a donation to a charity of my choice for pounds lost (I'm guessing you're saying up to $100 for 100 pounds) that would be cool. It would probably be towards an anti-child abuse charity. And I will gladly accept your $100 gift when Iose over 100 pounds.
I have a current picture of me in my 2012 weigh-in bikini but I'm sure you don't want to see me spilling out of it. I obviously don't look anything like how I did in that bikini in 2012.
Quote: JohnzimboHB did you try to snag a hubby when you lost the weight the first time?
I did join some dating sites and dated but didn't find Mr. Right.
Quote: houyiFor the purposes of any bet being made, is OP being made to have some waiting period after the weigh-in to ensure that she didn't just cut the last 10 lbs from water weight via cycling in a sauna only to gain it all back when she takes a drink of water? Furthermore, how exactly would weight be independently verified? There are seemingly many angles for a bet like this, and though I am not specifically accusing OP of taking any shots, I question why anyone would want to bet a stranger online for something like this.
Last time the terms were something like no weight loss surgery or no diuretic pills. Saunas, coffee and dehydration was not on the list. It's up to the people betting against me (right now it's only Mike) how they want the weight verified. But I will say right now if I am to wear anything to cover my body (whether it be a swimsuit or whatever) we deduct the weight of the clothing off of the reading on the scale. This is because I always weigh myself naked and my starting weight on Monday was done first thing in the morning with no clothes on.
Quote: RonCGot it HB...you are unwilling to commit to a long-term plan. I guess I am unimpressed by this. Your writings suggest that you want a man because your clock is ticking. It would seem that you could get a man even at your current size. You want a "better" catch based on looking better at a lower weight.
Since you won't negotiate bets on the future weight situation, I'll assume that you are fairly concerned that you might just gain it all back again, as before.
Consider this--what is your new found husband going to think about that when it happens?
I'm out of the betting...
Ok, first of all you need to relax. You asked if I wanted to enter a side bet with you and I said no. That doesn't mean that I don't have a long-term plan or don't plan on keeping the weight off. I'm on here concentrating on losing this weight and you want me to enter a bet with you that won't be resolved for years and I'm not interested at this point. So please don't twist things around. And I'm not concerned at all that I "might just gain it all back again, as before" as you said. One thing does not equal another. Just because I don't want to take your bet doesn't mean that I fear I'm going to gain the weight back. So again, just relax.
I already saw the 2012 before and after pics. $:o)
I'm hopeful of incentivising you to steadily lose the weight and keep it off. The stake money is but a gesture. Can we work through the details by PM.
I reckon there has to be a modest target to be achieved before triggering any donation. Also, some penalty on you, a counter donation for any regressions or failure to hit that modest target. Monthly weigh-in's to track your progress.
Quote: WizardofnothingOk let's put the terms out there- I don't think you can do it so assuming the terms are agreeable I will go 5k
Are you saying you are going to bet against me? Or were you going to bet against someone else?
Also I'm open for suggestions as far as the terms go as long as the terms are reasonable. If we each bet 5k then we should escrow the money.
No weight loss surgery, no weight loss medications I can totally agree to.
If we agree that no weight loss surgery be performed I'm open to having someone inspect my abdomen for lack of surgery marks as proof. I actually showed SOOPOO my entire stomach area (since he is a physician) upon my urging to show him there was no surgery after my final weigh in in 2012.
Quote: RomesYou need a wing man, Mike. You'd be amazed how well this DOES work when I'm asking you and her the questions... I seem like the mean guy for asking hard questions, but you seem like the super smart knight because you can answer them all and you two can be like a "team."
Thanks for the offer. Probably just as well I crash and burn on my own as Mrs. Wizard doesn't approve of me even looking at women between the ages of 18 to 88.
Quote: WizardofnothingI am open to the escrow with either Mike or mission- even though you said no at first- I'm pretty easy with rules but I am only willing to bet provided once you make weight you must keep it off for 10 days
I'm also willing to act as an escrow agent. For parties that don't know each other, I think escrow is a good idea for large bets.
Quote: WizardThanks for the offer. Probably just as well I crash and burn on my own as Mrs. Wizard doesn't approve of me even looking at women between the ages of 18 to 88.
My Mom's 89. I'll send you a pic!! :)
Of course, you shouldn't take that as an insult because, quite frankly, I'm saying that I somewhat strongly believe that you can do it in the event that there is enough of a financial incentive for you to do so.
I also do not pretend to know how greatly material wealth ranks on the necessary qualities for a future husband, but as Wizard pointed out, certainly every pound lost results in a greater capability to attract a wealthy potential suitor. I don't know that you can put a specific figure on it such as $10,000 per pound, or anything like that, but certainly losing such a great sum of weight could be expected to make you more physically desirable to a wider range of Bachelors.
Anyway, I wish you luck in this endeavor as well as anything else that you do. And, not to belabor the point, but I tend to think you will be successful in this challenge as you were in the last one if the price is right.
Finally, I do wish to counter your implication that BeachBumBabs considers you a threat of any kind since it can be assumed that Babs will not be reading this thread. I simply take Babs at face value that she values harmoniousness on this Forum more than anything else, and seeing how many Suspensions came as a direct or indirect result of the last challenge, she considers this thread (and an additional HB Challenge) as a threat to the peace of this Forum rather than considering you (personally) a threat to her (Also personally). Anyway, I consider BBB a friend of mine and excellent Administrator on this Forum, so I am going to defend her in that regard.
Quote: WizardofnothingI am open to the escrow with either Mike or mission- even though you said no at first- I'm pretty easy with rules but I am only willing to bet provided once you make weight you must keep it off for 10 days
Ok so let's start setting the terms. And I initially said that there was no need for escrow cause there was not a large bet such as the one you're offering. If you and I were to bet that amount I would trust Mike to escrow the money for us since he offered.
Also, a question that came up during the last challenge was, do the monies get paid the day I hit my goal or do we have to wait until my birthday to be weighed again even if I hit the goal early? And in regards to your 10 day suggestion, I'm not sure how I feel about that ONLY because if we do choose my birthday as the weigh-in day it will be my 40th birthday and I very well may be going on a vacation of some sort and am almost absolutely certain I will not be dieting on my birthday or possibly even days after (AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE GOING TO READ THAT WRONG I AM NOT SAYING THAT THAT MEANS I PLAN ON PIGGING OUT OR GAINING WEIGHT FROM MY BIRTHDAY ON. I just plan on enjoying myself and not concentrating on counting my calories then especially after having done so after 306 days).
Quote: Mission146For my part, HotBlonde, you would have to Lay some Odds to get me to put a single dollar against you, let alone any greater sum of money than that. I'm not saying I would have to be getting 2:1 to Take the, 'No,' or anything like that, but there is absolutely no way I would go against you at Even Money. I'm also not entirely confident any amounts that I would be willing to bet would be of any great interest to you.
Of course, you shouldn't take that as an insult because, quite frankly, I'm saying that I somewhat strongly believe that you can do it in the event that there is enough of a financial incentive for you to do so.
I also do not pretend to know how greatly material wealth ranks on the necessary qualities for a future husband, but as Wizard pointed out, certainly every pound lost results in a greater capability to attract a wealthy potential suitor. I don't know that you can put a specific figure on it such as $10,000 per pound, or anything like that, but certainly losing such a great sum of weight could be expected to make you more physically desirable to a wider range of Bachelors.
Anyway, I wish you luck in this endeavor as well as anything else that you do. And, not to belabor the point, but I tend to think you will be successful in this challenge as you were in the last one if the price is right.
Finally, I do wish to counter your implication that BeachBumBabs considers you a threat of any kind since it can be assumed that Babs will not be reading this thread. I simply take Babs at face value that she values harmoniousness on this Forum more than anything else, and seeing how many Suspensions came as a direct or indirect result of the last challenge, she considers this thread (and an additional HB Challenge) as a threat to the peace of this Forum rather than considering you (personally) a threat to her (Also personally). Anyway, I consider BBB a friend of mine and excellent Administrator on this Forum, so I am going to defend her in that regard.
Thank you.
Ha I know you're married and wasn't seriously suggesting, just letting you know the "trivia" approach can work!Quote: WizardI'm also willing to act as an escrow agent. For parties that don't know each other, I think escrow is a good idea for large bets.
Also, does that mean under 18 and over 88 are okay???
Suggestions for Proposition bets and sponsorship deal sent by PM.Quote: HotBlondeI like your ideas.
Quote: RomesHa I know you're married and wasn't seriously suggesting, just letting you know the "trivia" approach can work!
Also, does that mean under 18 and over 88 are okay???
Careful Romes that's the kind of talk that can get you sharing a cell with Jared the Subway guy :p
it easy. Those who want to be involved
just send her a check today and pretend
she lost the weight, which she obviously
will do because she already showed she
can. And we'll also pretend it's a year
from now, because we'll be exactly where
we are now in July 2017.
There, it's settled.
Quote: EvenBobI don't understand any of this. Lets make it easy. Those who want to be involved just send her a check today and pretend she lost the weight, which she obviously will do because she already showed she can. And we'll also pretend it's a year from now, because we'll be exactly where we are now in July 2017.
There, it's settled.
Hey Bob, don't knock the lady for having form for being a previous spectacular winner. FWIW I think she's looking for encouragement and we can all contribute, adjusting the offered odds as we see fit.
And please don't wish my life away. I have a lot of things I want to do in the next twelve months.
I've set HB some challenging targets even by her own standards with some incentives and some potential penalties to make it interesting.
Jeez, I thought I was the grumpy one $:o)
Quote: EvenBobwhich she obviously will do because she already showed she can.
Interesting logic. Would you be willing to lay 10-1?
Quote: TomGInteresting logic. Would you be willing to lay 10-1?
Not to answer for him, but EvenBob has long maintained that he does not transact any bets by way of the Internet.
With that said, I was the first to suggest that I might be interested in getting some action in the event someone wanted to Lay some Odds with me taking the, "No," just saying....lol
2) Make a PM bet with Tom giving him like 5-1 odds. Make a $5k bet, so if she does accomplish the weight loss you get $5k, if she doesn't you give up $25k. However since she's done this before AND is now motivated both personally and financially, she'll accomplish the feat easily.
3) Collect $4500 in winnings.
I can AP anything... ;-)
Quote: Romes1) Make a bet with HB for $500 that says she can't do it. With Mike's bet this will motivate her even more to lose the weight she already wants to, and is going to, lose.
2) Make a PM bet with Tom giving him like 5-1 odds. Make a $5k bet, so if she does accomplish the weight loss you get $5k, if she doesn't you give up $25k. However since she's done this before AND is now motivated both personally and financially, she'll accomplish the feat easily.
3) Collect $4500 in winnings.
I can AP anything... ;-)
Lol, I like your style.
Would that be gambling? Would Paigowdan 86 you from 'tinterweb for that?
cue a 46 page thread diversion.
Quote: OnceDearHey Bob, don't knock the lady for having form for being a previous spectacular winner.
LOL! You think that's what I'm talking about?
Try reading the last thread about this and
quit assuming so much.
Quote: Romes1) Make a bet with HB for $500 that says she can't do it. With Mike's bet this will motivate her even more to lose the weight she already wants to, and is going to, lose.
2) Make a PM bet with Tom giving him like 5-1 odds. Make a $5k bet, so if she does accomplish the weight loss you get $5k, if she doesn't you give up $25k. However since she's done this before AND is now motivated both personally and financially, she'll accomplish the feat easily.
3) Collect $4500 in winnings.
I can AP anything... ;-)
That's exactly the reason why I would need to get Odds to Take the, 'No.' Personally, not only do I have confidence in HotBlonde's basic ability to do it, (if I was the only one betting, someone would still need to lay me something) but I also think the Law of Diminishing Returns, or in this case, perhaps, 'Diminishing Odds,' would be more appropriate in the sense that the greater the amount there is for HotBlonde to win in dollars, the Probability of her being successful also goes up in some way.
In that sense, if someone were to Lay into me, I would have to do it in a way that I actually believed would stay ahead of those changes in what I perceive would happen to the Probability.
For example, if someone were betting $1,000,000 against HotBlonde at Even Money, then someone would have to Lay an extremely high amount against me for me to take the, 'No,' side because the incentive for HB to succeed would be a 2M dollar swing.
I'm going to count myself out for now, the 5k bet currently being negotiated between HB and WizardofNothing is an amount that I think would throw the Odds considerably towards HB being successful, and again, I think she has an advantage on an Even Money bet, anyway. I am not willing to bet against anyone until I see whether or not the big 5k bet happens...a 10k swing for HotBlonde just has too huge an effect on what I believe her probability of success would be.
Honestly, if that bet comes to fruition, someone would probably have to Lay me 4:1 for me to take the, 'No.'
Quote: EvenBobLOL! You think that's what I'm talking about?
Try reading the last thread about this and
quit assuming so much.
Thanks, will do.
Quote: OnceDearThanks, will do.
If you mean that, you're going to need to carve out a few days in your schedule...lol
