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March 2nd, 2014 at 9:01:32 PM permalink
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It was just to be consistent to my strategy of always betting the big favorites on the Oscars. Laying 215 to 1 seemed kind of ridiculous so I bet to only win a buck.



Got it. Makes sense.

Hopefully you could have had a good hearty laugh if The Lone Ranger surprised us all.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 9:17:41 PM permalink
Here is the post-mortem:

Amount bet = $8,037.50
Net win = $746.00
Net win (pct) = 9.28%

This despite the big upset on Best Animated Short Film.

I can't think of anything else in the world of gambling where I consistently and easily win year after year. Say it with me -- Silver Platter.

Regarding the Martingale, it is no better nor worse than any other betting system. If you enjoy using it, then use it. I would never compare it to betting a sure thing like Gravity to win Best Visual Effects.
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March 2nd, 2014 at 9:21:01 PM permalink
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Those aren't the bet amounts.

Ummm...welcome back?
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March 2nd, 2014 at 9:21:45 PM permalink
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That's not really the layman's argument against Martingale. The layman's argument should be that sooner or later the bet will get huge, and you are just as likely to lose as to win.

The odds of losing the $215 were almost miniscule. There is nothing mathematically unsound.



I couldn't do it. I'm afraid to play 35 different numbers on single zero roulette, risking $35 to win $1. :)
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March 2nd, 2014 at 10:06:06 PM permalink
I think it's been a while since four pictures with 5 or more nominations apiece were completely shut out.

American Hustle
Columbia Pictures and Annapurna Pictures Production (Sony Pictures Releasing)
Best Picture
Christian Bale - Actor in a Leading Role
Bradley Cooper - Actor in a Supporting Role
Amy Adams - Actress in a Leading Role
Jennifer Lawrence - Actress in a Supporting Role
Costume Design
Directing
Film Editing
Production Design
Original Screenplay

Captain Phillips
Columbia Pictures Production (Sony Pictures Releasing)
Best Picture
Barkhad Abdi - Actor in a Supporting Role
Film Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Adapted Screenplay


Nebraska
Paramount Vantage Production (Paramount)
Best Picture
Bruce Dern - Actor in a Leading Role
June Squibb - Actress in a Supporting Role
Cinematography
Directing
Original Screenplay


The Wolf of Wall Street
Red Granite Production (Paramount)
Best Picture
Leonardo DiCaprio - Actor in a Leading Role
Jonah Hill - Actor in a Supporting Role
Directing
Adapted Screenplay
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March 2nd, 2014 at 10:24:55 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Here is the post-mortem:

Amount bet = $8,037.50
Net win = $746.00
Net win (pct) = 9.28%

This despite the big upset on Best Animated Short Film.

I can't think of anything else in the world of gambling where I consistently and easily win year after year. Say it with me -- Silver Platter.

Regarding the Martingale, it is no better nor worse than any other betting system. If you enjoy using it, then use it. I would never compare it to betting a sure thing like Gravity to win Best Visual Effects.



Cheers Wiz, I made a tidy 11% profit as well following (some of) your advice. Net win amount was nothing like as high :)
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March 3rd, 2014 at 4:15:47 AM permalink
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Just lost Best Animated Short Film where I laid 785 on Get a Horse, which was upset by Mr. Hublot. This sets a new record for the biggest upset I have ever seen. The previous record was when Crash upset Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture, which was running around -400. In this case I bet $392.50 to win $50, so no worry about me jumping off a bridge. Yet. Let's see what happens with the other awards.



DeGeneres declared two possible scenarios for the final outcome of the Oscar race: "Possibility No. 1, '12 Years a Slave' wins best picture. Possibility No. 2, you're all racists."

So Crash's racism beat Brokeback Mountain's "The love that dare not speak its name". And the Academy voters chose to give relative unknowns "Laurent Witz and Alexandre Espigares" international fame instead of giving both the short and feature length animation to Walt Disney studios.

But you won the riskier proposition bets.

What is your advice to your future self next year?
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March 3rd, 2014 at 6:00:28 AM permalink
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DeGeneres declared two possible scenarios for the final outcome of the Oscar race: "Possibility No. 1, '12 Years a Slave' wins best picture. Possibility No. 2, you're all racists."



I liked that joke. I thought it was a jab at the fact that everyone there knew it was going to win.

Quote:

What is your advice to your future self next year?



Pretty much keep doing the same thing. However, don't overlook the props on over/under total wins per movie. I'll write more about those next year.

Looking back, I shouldn't have tied up $250 on Best Visual Effects when there were greater advantages to be had. I had only so much money in my account, and bet all of it. I maintain it was a good bet, but there were better bets.
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March 3rd, 2014 at 6:42:41 AM permalink
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The odds of losing the $215 were almost miniscule.



No, not "almost miniscule". Think of it this way: would you bet $20,000 to win $100?
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March 3rd, 2014 at 7:17:03 AM permalink
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No, not "almost miniscule". Think of it this way: would you bet $20,000 to win $100?



If it wouldn't bother me to lose the 20K, I would. However, after Cyprus and three consecutive Super Bowl safeties, it would.
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March 3rd, 2014 at 7:47:46 AM permalink
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No, not "almost miniscule". Think of it this way: would you bet $20,000 to win $100?



It's all relative. The odds were hugely in favor of Mickey Mouse winning the Oscar. So you might bet $20,000 to win $2500 thinking that was a smart bet, but then you would have lost the 20 grand.



The Wizard bet $8,037.50, he was hoping to win $1188.50 but because of the Mickey Mouse upset he won $746.

If you were going to bet the whole amount on a single bet, tell me where the risk/reward ratio would have been acceptable.

$8,037.50 Bet
$37 2251 Gravity - Best Visual Effects -21500* vs Field wins Best Visual Effects
$155 1151 Frozen - Best Animated Feature Film -5200* vs Field wins Best Animated Feature Film
$212 1191 Gravity - Best Cinematography -3800* vs Field wins Best Cinematography
$282 1071 Cate Blanchett - Best Actress -2850* vs Field wins Best Actress
$328 2121 Dallas Buyers Club - Best Makeup -2450* vs Field wins Best Makeup
$459 2211 Gravity - Best Sound Editing -1750* vs Field wins Best Sound Editing
$459 2231 Gravity - Best Sound Mixing -1750* vs FIeld wins Best Sound Mixing
$574 1031 Alfonso Cuaron - Best Director -1400* vs Field wins Best Director
$574 1091 Jared Leto - Best Supporting Actor -1400* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actor
$1,024 1171 Get a Horse! - Best Animated Short Film -785* vs Field wins Best Animated Short Film
$1,132 1131 12 Years a Slave - Adapted Screenplay -710* vs Field wins Best Adapted Screenplay
$1,806 2141 Gravity - Best Original Score -445* vs Field wins Best Original Score
$1,827 1051 Matthew McConaughey - Best Actor -440* vs Field wins Best Actor
$2,115 2181 Let It Go - Best Original Song -380* vs Field wins Best Original Song
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March 3rd, 2014 at 8:02:09 AM permalink
Quote: reno

No, not "almost miniscule". Think of it this way: would you bet $20,000 to win $100?

The odds don't change just because the amont of the bet is significantly larger.

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Ummm...welcome back?

Touché! I suppose I could've held out for a moment where I had something useful to say.

Anyway, I enjoyed the show last night.
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March 4th, 2014 at 6:09:57 AM permalink
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If you were going to bet the whole amount on a single bet, tell me where the risk/reward ratio would have been acceptable.



Not counting the props on over/under total wins by a single movie, I think -300 to -1,000 is the sweet spot.
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January 15th, 2015 at 8:20:40 PM permalink
Search Google News for "whitest Oscars" and Google informs me that there are over 3,000 news stories about how caucasian the nominations are in 2015. The hashtag #OscarsSoWhite quickly trended on Twitter after the nominations were announced on Thursday morning and logged over 17,000 impressions.

Among online casinos, Boyhood is the landslide favorite for Best Picture. As I write this, Selma is a 20-1 underdog. I wonder if the casinos will move the odds on Selma in the coming weeks. Hollywood is self-consciously hypersensitive to political image, and I could see the Academy voting for Selma to avoid embarrassment.
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January 15th, 2015 at 11:14:58 PM permalink
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Hollywood is self-consciously hypersensitive to political image, and I could see the Academy voting for Selma to avoid embarrassment.



Why not? They gave the talentless Whoopsie
Goldberg a token Oscar for Ghost. Anything
can happen. I challenge anybody to watch
that movie and think she deserved any kind
of award, let alone an Oscar.
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January 16th, 2015 at 12:13:44 AM permalink
Quote: reno

Search Google News for "whitest Oscars" and Google informs me that there are over 3,000 news stories about how caucasian the nominations are in 2015. The hashtag #OscarsSoWhite quickly trended on Twitter after the nominations were announced on Thursday morning and logged over 17,000 impressions.

Among online casinos, Boyhood is the landslide favorite for Best Picture. As I write this, Selma is a 20-1 underdog. I wonder if the casinos will move the odds on Selma in the coming weeks. Hollywood is self-consciously hypersensitive to political image, and I could see the Academy voting for Selma to avoid embarrassment.

I like your thinking but if Selma wins then people will say it's for just that reason.

P.S. Boyhood was a fair movie, but it wasn't that great. Movies have been pretty weak lately. TV series seem to be far better than movies. I can't remember the last movie I thought was worth telling anyone to watch.
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:09:21 AM permalink
Quote: reno

Search Google News for "whitest Oscars" and Google informs me that there are over 3,000 news stories about how caucasian the nominations are in 2015. The hashtag #OscarsSoWhite quickly trended on Twitter after the nominations were announced on Thursday morning and logged over 17,000 impressions.

Among online casinos, Boyhood is the landslide favorite for Best Picture. As I write this, Selma is a 20-1 underdog. I wonder if the casinos will move the odds on Selma in the coming weeks. Hollywood is self-consciously hypersensitive to political image, and I could see the Academy voting for Selma to avoid embarrassment.


I don't. If the Academy wants to give Selma a "consolation prize" Oscar, it will be for its other nomination, in Original Song. Even there, there are two "competing stories"; Glen Campbell is nominated in this category, for a song from his documentary, and the Academy might also treat it as a consolation prize for The LEGO Movie, which was not nominated for Animated Feature Film.
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January 16th, 2015 at 8:35:51 AM permalink
It's all changed now, the good Rev Al is calling for an emergency meeting to discuss how racist the nominations were.

http://www.businessinsider.com/al-sharpton-blasts-appalling-oscars-2015-1
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January 16th, 2015 at 4:42:54 PM permalink
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TV series seem to be far better than movies. I can't remember the last movie I thought was worth telling anyone to watch.



I'm watching all 7 seasons of Burn
Notice on Netflix, not bad. Just
finished Sons of Anarchy.
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January 16th, 2015 at 5:46:50 PM permalink
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I'm watching all 7 seasons of Burn
Notice on Netflix, not bad. Just
finished Sons of Anarchy.

As long as you are not watching the new HBO series Looking.

I had no clue what it was, The first scene of the first episode was more shocking than Opie's death.
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January 17th, 2015 at 8:19:14 AM permalink
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I like your thinking but if Selma wins then people will say it's for just that reason.



Well that is inevitable. It was the same way last year. But Selma won't win.

Crash won the Best Picture Oscar at the 78th Academy Awards, controversially beating the critically favored Brokeback Mountain and making it only the second film ever (the other being The Sting) to win the Academy Award for Best Picture without having been nominated for any of the three Golden Globe Awards for Best Motion Picture (Best Drama, Best Comedy/Musical and Best Foreign Film).

But Crash and Brokeback Mountain were both very uncomfortable films. Crash for displaying racism as firmly embedded in the culture with little or no progress made in the past 5 decades. BM was designed to make people uncomfortable.

I don't see that this year. I didn't see boyhood, but it doesn't sound uncomfortable.
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January 17th, 2015 at 8:43:20 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

Well that is inevitable. It was the same way last year. But Selma won't win.

Crash won the Best Picture Oscar at the 78th Academy Awards, controversially beating the critically favored Brokeback Mountain and making it only the second film ever (the other being The Sting) to win the Academy Award for Best Picture without having been nominated for any of the three Golden Globe Awards for Best Motion Picture (Best Drama, Best Comedy/Musical and Best Foreign Film).

But Crash and Brokeback Mountain were both very uncomfortable films. Crash for displaying racism as firmly embedded in the culture with little or no progress made in the past 5 decades. BM was designed to make people uncomfortable.

I don't see that this year. I didn't see boyhood, but it doesn't sound uncomfortable.



I liked Crash, a very enjoyable movie.
Here is how $cientology views Crash.
Director Paul Hagis in scientology
$cientology views Crash as the greatest film to ever win best picture. They glow about it in their publications.
Director Paul Hagis leaves scientology and speaks out.
$cientology views Crash as the worst film to ever win best picture and smears Hagis in their publications. LOL
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February 15th, 2015 at 3:22:47 PM permalink
This year doesn't seem as clear cut as previous years.

Best Actress is a complete lock for Julianne Moore. Best Supporting Actor is a lock for JK Simmons. Best Supporting Actress will most likely be Patrcia Arquette. Best Actor? Either Eddie Redmayne or Michael Keaton. That one is closer.

Boyhood is front runner for Best Picture. But Birdman could easily upset.

Best Director is a toss up between Boyhood and Birdman.

(I'm pulling this all out of my butt, BTW. I'm a big movie nerd and I follow this stuff. I haven't looked at any of the official odds on any betting sites or anything yet).
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February 16th, 2015 at 7:49:30 AM permalink
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Best Actor? Either Eddie Redmayne or Michael Keaton. That one is closer.


Quote: Wizard

Not counting the props on over/under total wins by a single movie, I think -300 to -1,000 is the sweet spot.



Michael Keaton is the frontrunner with -120 . When the Wizard posts his bets it will be interesting to see if he passed on this category.

Julian Moore is the frontrunner with the best odds at -900. It will be interesting to see if the Wizard skips this category as well.
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February 16th, 2015 at 8:06:59 AM permalink
Unfortunately, I don't have any money in any accounts that take Academy Award bets. However, here is what I would bet if I did, based on Pinnacle odds:

EDDIE REDMAYNE -- BEST ACTOR? -326
JULIANNE MOORE -- BEST ACTRESS? -3425
JK SIMMONS -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR? -3333
PATRICIA ARQUETTE -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS -3000

I haven't seen the lines on the minor awards yet. Best picture and best director are not locks so I'd stay away from those.
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February 16th, 2015 at 8:19:51 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Unfortunately, I don't have any money in any accounts that take Academy Award bets. However, here is what I would bet if I did, based on Pinnacle odds:

EDDIE REDMAYNE -- BEST ACTOR? -326
JULIANNE MOORE -- BEST ACTRESS? -3425
JK SIMMONS -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR? -3333
PATRICIA ARQUETTE -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS -3000

I haven't seen the lines on the minor awards yet. Best picture and best director are not locks so I'd stay away from those.



I feel good about Redmayne's chances. Hollywood loves actor's portraying disabiliites.
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February 16th, 2015 at 9:17:31 AM permalink
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Here is the post-mortem (for 2013):
Amount bet = $8,037.50
Net win = $746.00
Net win (pct) = 9.28%
This despite the big upset on Best Animated Short Film.



Quote: Wizard

Unfortunately, I don't have any money in any accounts that take Academy Award bets. However, here is what I would bet if I did, based on Pinnacle odds:
EDDIE REDMAYNE -- BEST ACTOR? -326
JULIANNE MOORE -- BEST ACTRESS? -3425
JK SIMMONS -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR? -3333
PATRICIA ARQUETTE -- BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS -3000



So if you were betting this year, you would lay $326+$3425+$3333+$3000=$10,084 to win $400 or 4%. Or would you put more money on Eddie?


Seems pretty small win compared to your 2011/2012 bets
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If The Artist doesn't win for Best Picture, then look for me at the Hoover Dam bridge.

Bet Amount Odds
Best Animated Feature -- Rango 1598 -639
Will Michel Hazanavicius Win Best Director? -- YES 2825 -565
Will The Artist Win Best Picture? -- YES 5010 -1002
Best Supporting Actress -- Octavia Spencer 5760 -1152
Adapted Screenplay -- The Descendants 1825 -365
Original Screenplay -- Midnight in Paris 1585 -317



Quote: Wizard's Oscar bets last year


In 2011 the Wizard:

Bet $21,635 on these three sure things to win $588.09
Best Adapted Screenplay - The Social Network
Best Animated Feature - Toy Story 3
Best actor -- Colin Firth

Bet $19,322.50 on these three almost sure things to win $2,250
Best actress -- Natalie Portman
Best Visual Effects - Inception
Best supporiting actor -- Christian Bale

Bet $8,055 on these two likely outcomes to win $1,850
Best Original Screenplay - The King's Speech
Best Picture - The King's Speech

Bet $1,837.50 on these four technical awards to win $300
Best Sound Editing - Inception
Best Sound Mixing - Inception
Best Film Editing - The Social Network
Best Make Up - The Wolfman

Until finally missing on the Best Cinematographer Award and losing $275. It was the bet with the highest payback.

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February 21st, 2015 at 1:41:34 PM permalink
I couldn't stand to not be in action so I funded my 5dimes account with $999, which already had a small amount in it before, and then made the following bets.

Description Amt. bet To win
Julianne Moore - Best Actress -3600* vs Field wins Best Actress  $216.00 $6.00
J.K. Simmons - Best Supporting Actor -3600* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actor  $216.00 $6.00
Patricia Arquette - Best Sup Actress -4000* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actress  $240.00 $6.00
Birdman - Best Cinematography -900* vs Field wins Best Cinematography  $90.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design -1100* vs Field wins Best Production Design  $110.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume -900* vs Field wins Best Costume Design  $90.00 $10.00
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat. -530* vs Field wins Best Documentary Feature  $53.00 $10.00
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short -425* vs Field wins Best Documentary Short  $42.50 $10.00
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. -510* vs Field wins Best Animated Feature Film  $51.00 $10.00
Total $1,108.50 $78.00
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February 21st, 2015 at 2:33:46 PM permalink
Just to derail the thread a tiny bit with a link to some of today's humor:

http://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2015/02/21
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February 21st, 2015 at 3:27:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I couldn't stand to not be in action so I funded my 5dimes account with $999, which already had a small amount in it before, and then made the following bets.

Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat. -530* vs Field wins Best Documentary Feature  $53.00 $10.00
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short -425* vs Field wins Best Documentary Short  $42.50 $10.00
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. -510* vs Field wins Best Animated Feature Film  $51.00 $10.00


Going by AMPAS politics, I think Citizenfour is even more of a lock than Moore. However, Crisis Hotline doesn't seem to have the hype going for it, and HTTYD2 is going up against Disney and Big Hero 6. Yes, I know Get a Horse! lost last year, but that was "2D" animation, which seems to be a negative now for some reason.

Also remember that the rules for betting on the documentaries require that the voters actually watch all of the nominated films, so there's always room for shenanigans. Remember the time that one movie was shown in Los Angeles only once per day, at something like 10 AM, for the required seven consecutive days, so that most of the people who didn't support this film wouldn't be allowed to vote against it unless they noticed when and where it was being shown?
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February 21st, 2015 at 3:51:22 PM permalink
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Also remember that the rules for betting on the documentaries require that the voters actually watch all of the nominated films, so there's always room for shenanigans. Remember the time that one movie was shown in Los Angeles only once per day, at something like 10 AM, for the required seven consecutive days, so that most of the people who didn't support this film wouldn't be allowed to vote against it unless they noticed when and where it was being shown?



I thought they gave video tapes, or I guess DVDs these days, to every voting member of every film. When I lived in Orange County you sometimes came across these academy award copies of movies at yard sales and swap meets.

I still suspect some voters don't watch everything, but that is getting off topic.
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February 21st, 2015 at 6:23:51 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I thought they gave video tapes, or I guess DVDs these days, to every voting member of every film. When I lived in Orange County you sometimes came across these academy award copies of movies at yard sales and swap meets.


I'm pretty sure those are sent out by the studios - sending out screeners is stated by a number of people as the reason Crash beat Brokeback Mountain for Best Picture, so now it's pretty much an industry standard for the major awards - but most documentary filmmakers don't have that sort of money.

I just wonder how many voters claim they watch all of the documentary feature (for example) films, but didn't. There was a time when you had to sign a form at the theater where the film was shown. Up until a few years ago (and in part because of the incident I mentioned), the Academy had screenings of all of the films in the "you have to see all of the films in order to be eligible to vote" categories, and you had to attend those in order to vote.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 2:16:53 PM permalink
Here are my full predictions. The number in parenthesis is the probability of winning, assuming the odds on the favorites are exactly fair at 5 Dimes.

Birdman - Best Picture (62.55%)
Alejandro G. Inarritu (Birdman) - Best Director (53.43%)
Eddie Redmayne (The Theory of Everything) - Best Actor (74.36%)
Julianne Moore (Still Alice) - Best Actress (98.36%)
J.K. Simmons (Whiplash) - Best Supporting Actor (98.59%)
Patricia Arquette (Boyhood) - Best Sup Actress (98.59%)
Birdman - Best Cinematography (87.5%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design (88.89%)
Boyhood - Best Film Editing (71.43%)
Interstellar - Best Visual Effects (78.49%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume (91.3%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Makeup (76.34%)
Grand Budapest Hotel - Orig. Screenplay (68.75%)
The Imitation Game - Adapted Screenplay (69.23%)
Glory - Best Original Song (81.82%)
The Theory of Everything - Orig. Score (62.96%)
American Sniper - Best Sound Editing (71.01%)
Best Sound Mixing -- No opinion
Feast - Best Animated Short (71.01%)
The Phone Call - Best Live Action Short (67.74%)
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat (83.61%)
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short (76.47%)
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. (77.01%)
Ida - Best Foreign Language Film (71.01%)
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I couldn't stand to not be in action so I funded my 5dimes account with $999, which already had a small amount in it before, and then made the following bets.

Description Amt. bet To win
Julianne Moore - Best Actress -3600* vs Field wins Best Actress  $216.00 $6.00
J.K. Simmons - Best Supporting Actor -3600* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actor  $216.00 $6.00
Patricia Arquette - Best Sup Actress -4000* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actress  $240.00 $6.00
Birdman - Best Cinematography -900* vs Field wins Best Cinematography  $90.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design -1100* vs Field wins Best Production Design  $110.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume -900* vs Field wins Best Costume Design  $90.00 $10.00
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat. -530* vs Field wins Best Documentary Feature  $53.00 $10.00
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short -425* vs Field wins Best Documentary Short  $42.50 $10.00
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. -510* vs Field wins Best Animated Feature Film  $51.00 $10.00
Total $1,108.50 $78.00



I made these bets on Saturday at 4:37 PM, here are how those lines moved as of 2:20 PM Sunday:

Julianne Moore - Best Actress -3600 to -6000
J.K. Simmons - Best Supporting Actor -3600 to -7000
Patricia Arquette - Best Sup Actress -4000 to -7000
Birdman - Best Cinematography -900 to -700
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design -1100 to -800
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume -900 to -1050
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat. -530 to -510
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short -425 to -325
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. -510 to -335

I guess the lesson to be learned is to bet the enormous favorites (-3600 or longer) early and the lesser favorites, or maybe lesser awards, late.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 3:19:29 PM permalink
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HTTYD2 is going up against Disney and Big Hero 6. Yes, I know Get a Horse! lost last year, but that was "2D" animation, which seems to be a negative now for some reason.



I think that "Get a Horse!" lost simply because they had to give the academy award to FROZEN, and voters simply didn't want to give both prizes to Disney. I don't think 2D had anything to do with it.

It seems like the Academy awards success when it comes to animated films. HTTYD2 was more successful worldwide, but Big Hero 6 was a slightly bigger hit domestically.

I agree that there is a potential upset here (although I haven't seen any of the films).



Animated film title = Worldwide gross in $milion, ($foreign ticket sales)
How to Train Your Dragon 2 $618.9 (71.4% foreign)
Big Hero 6 $546.2 59.7%
Rio 2 $500.2 73.7%
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) $483.8 60.5%
The LEGO Movie $468.8 45.0%
Penguins of Madagascar $357.8 76.9%
Mr. Peabody & Sherman $272.9 59.1%
Planes: Fire & Rescue $151.2 60.9%
The Nut Job $113.3 43.3%
The Boxtrolls $108.3 53.0%
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February 22nd, 2015 at 7:14:52 PM permalink
Big Hero 6 beat How To Train Your Dragon 2. The first upset of the night.
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Big Hero 6 beat How To Train Your Dragon 2. The first upset of the night.


Winnings down to $17

Big Hero 6 Best Animated Feature Film · Chris Williams, Don Hall, Roy Conli
J.K. Simmons Best Supporting Actor · Whiplash
Patricia Arquette Best Supporting Actress · Boyhood
Anna Pinnock Best Production Design · The Grand Budapest Hotel
Adam Stockhausen Best Production Design · The Grand Budapest Hotel
Crisis Hotline: Veterans Press 1 Best Documentary Short Subject · Dana Heinz Perry, Ellen Goosenberg Kent
Milena Canonero Best Costume Design · The Grand Budapest Hotel


Ida Best Foreign Language Film · Paweł Pawlikowski
Interstellar Best Visual Effects · Paul J. Franklin, Andrew Lockley, Ian Hunter, ...
Mark Coulier Best Makeup · The Grand Budapest Hotel
Frances Hannon Best Makeup · The Grand Budapest Hotel
Feast Best Animated Short Film · Kristina Reed, Patrick Osborne
The Phone Call Best Live Action Short Film · Mat Kirkby, James Lucas
Bub Asman Best Sound Editing · American Sniper
Alan Robert Murray Best Sound Editing · American Sniper
Craig Mann Best Sound Mixing · Whiplash
Ben Wilkins Best Sound Mixing · Whiplash
Thomas Curley Best Sound Mixing · Whiplash
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February 22nd, 2015 at 7:46:32 PM permalink
Whiplash won for Best Editing.

Boyhood was the favorite.... Should have been a shoe-in really.
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February 22nd, 2015 at 8:50:39 PM permalink
I was never a Joan Rivers fan, I found her rude & very very annoying. Nevertheless, I think's weird that the Oscars didn't honor Joan Rivers' death during the In Memorium segment. Everytime the Oscars ignores a dead celebrity, (for example Jack Klugman of the Odd Couple) their defense is that the celebrity was famous for something else (usually TV), but not famous for cinema. Maybe, but Joan Rivers was famous for the Oscars! Moreover, she appeared in many movies (Iron Man 3, Shrek 2, Spaceballs, Muppets Take Manhattan) and even directed a feature film (Rabbit Test) in the 1970s.

To add insult to injury, they honored poet Maya Angelou, but not Joan Rivers! Wow. Angelou was in Medea's Family Reunion. It's what she's famous for.
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Nevertheless, I think's weird that the Oscars didn't honor Joan Rivers' death during the In Memorium segment.



IMDB Joan Rivers: Before Melissa Pulls the Plug (TV Movie) 2006 -- some foresight there.
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I couldn't stand to not be in action so I funded my 5dimes account with $999, which already had a small amount in it before, and then made the following bets.

Description Amt. bet To win
Julianne Moore - Best Actress -3600* vs Field wins Best Actress  $216.00 $6.00
J.K. Simmons - Best Supporting Actor -3600* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actor  $216.00 $6.00
Patricia Arquette - Best Sup Actress -4000* vs Field wins Best Supporting Actress  $240.00 $6.00
Birdman - Best Cinematography -900* vs Field wins Best Cinematography  $90.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design -1100* vs Field wins Best Production Design  $110.00 $10.00
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume -900* vs Field wins Best Costume Design  $90.00 $10.00
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat. -530* vs Field wins Best Documentary Feature  $53.00 $10.00
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short -425* vs Field wins Best Documentary Short  $42.50 $10.00
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. -510* vs Field wins Best Animated Feature Film  $51.00 $10.00
Total $1,108.50 $78.00



Vexed by a cartoon again! You may recall that last year I had a perfect record except for laying 785 on Get a Horse! for Best Animated Short Film. This year picking How to Train Your Dragon 2 ruined my shut out, and also caused my win to drop from $78 to $17. Net profit for the 2015 Oscars $17/$1108.50 = 1.53%.

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Here are my full predictions. The number in parenthesis is the probability of winning, assuming the odds on the favorites are exactly fair at 5 Dimes.

Birdman - Best Picture (62.55%)
Alejandro G. Inarritu (Birdman) - Best Director (53.43%)
Eddie Redmayne (The Theory of Everything) - Best Actor (74.36%)
Julianne Moore (Still Alice) - Best Actress (98.36%)
J.K. Simmons (Whiplash) - Best Supporting Actor (98.59%)
Patricia Arquette (Boyhood) - Best Sup Actress (98.59%)
Birdman - Best Cinematography (87.5%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Prod Design (88.89%)
Boyhood - Best Film Editing (71.43%)
Interstellar - Best Visual Effects (78.49%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Costume (91.3%)
The Grand Budapest Hotel - Best Makeup (76.34%)
Grand Budapest Hotel - Orig. Screenplay (68.75%)
The Imitation Game - Adapted Screenplay (69.23%)
Glory - Best Original Song (81.82%)
The Theory of Everything - Orig. Score (62.96%)
American Sniper - Best Sound Editing (71.01%)
Best Sound Mixing -- No opinion
Feast - Best Animated Short (71.01%)
The Phone Call - Best Live Action Short (67.74%)
Citizenfour wins Best Documentary Feat (83.61%)
Crisis Hotline - Best Documentary Short (76.47%)
How to Train Your Dragon 2 - Animated F. (77.01%)
Ida - Best Foreign Language Film (71.01%)



Let the record show I went 19-4 on my overall predictions.
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Pretty overwhelming favorite in all acting categories. Strange case again where favorite for BEST PICTURE may not win any other major awards, but still a bit of a toss up for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR.

BEST PICTURE
Spotlight 10/11
The Revenant 7/4
The BIg Short 10
The Martian 10
Mad Max: Fury Road 25
Carol 33
Bridge of Spies 40
Room 40
Brooklyn 66

BEST DIRECTOR
Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu - The Revenant 4/6
Thomas McCarthy - Spotlight 11/4
Adam McKay - The Big Short 6
George Miller - Mad Max Fury Road 8
Lenny Abrahamson - Room 25

BEST ACTOR
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Revenant 1/7
Michael Fassbender - Steve Jobs 7
Eddie Redmayne - The Danish Girl 10
Bryan Cranston - Trumbo 33
Matt Damon - The Martian 28

BEST ACTRESS
Brie Larson - Room 3/10
Saoirse Ronan - Brooklyn 11/2
Cate Blanchett - Carol 9
Jennifer Lawrence - Joy 9
Charlotte Rampling - 45 Years 28

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Sylvester Stallone - Creed 10/11
Mark Rylance - Bridge of Spies 6/4
Tom Hardy - The Revenant 10
Mark Ruffalo - Spotlight 12
Christian Bale - The Big Short 16

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Rooney Mara - Carol 1/2
Alicia Vikander - The Danish Girl 4
Kate Winslet - Steve Jobs 4
Jennifer Jason Leigh - The Hateful Eight 16
Rachel McAdams - Spotlight 33
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This will be the first year that Vegas sports books take action on the Oscars. I already saw some bets at a Caesars casino, but don't remember where I put the sheet.
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January 14th, 2016 at 6:20:34 PM permalink
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Pretty overwhelming favorite in all acting categories. Strange case again where favorite for BEST PICTURE may not win any other major awards, but still a bit of a toss up for BEST PICTURE/DIRECTOR.

Source?
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Source?


http://www.oddschecker.com/awards/oscars/best-picture

I just basically took the odds from bet365. They will change dramatically, but the rank won't change much.

There have been a few films that won best picture with no acting awards.

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) eleven Oscar nominations and won all of them, but no acting nominations received

The Last Emperor(1987) nine Oscar nominations and won all of them, but no acting nominations received
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