DRich
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June 16th, 2021 at 10:18:54 AM permalink
Has anyone here read Steve Fortes book Gambling Sleight of Hand? I believe it was published last year.

I really want to read it but not enough to pay $300 for it. If anyone knows of a used one for sale I might be interested.
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:22:06 PM permalink
$10 https://magictricks.io/product/gambling-sleight-of-hand-by-steve-forte-forte-years-of-research-2-volumes/
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:40:56 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Has anyone here read Steve Fortes book Gambling Sleight of Hand? I believe it was published last year.

I really want to read it but not enough to pay $300 for it. If anyone knows of a used one for sale I might be interested.


I bought the book last year when it first came out.
I read it and then resold it for $600.
It mostly explains the moves you would need to be a card mechanic or some that would be good for magicians.
If youíre a table games AP there were a few interesting thoughts, but would not really be beneficial for most Aps.
I believe the first printing was only 600 copies but quickly sold out and now itís on a second or third printing.
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DRich
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June 16th, 2021 at 1:49:19 PM permalink
Quote: BleedingChipsSlowly

$10 https://magictricks.io/product/gambling-sleight-of-hand-by-steve-forte-forte-years-of-research-2-volumes/



I just ordered it but this site looks fishy. I may have just compromised my Amex.
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:11:37 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I just ordered it but this site looks fishy. I may have just compromised my Amex.


Something doesnít seem right.
$10 ? Used copies were selling on eBay for 400-600
Not long ago.
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June 16th, 2021 at 3:15:48 PM permalink
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I've posted this before but a long time ago - but maybe some here now haven't seen it
Dustin Marks, who wrote "Cheating at Blackjack", which is a great book, is the best I've ever seen at this
he claims to have beaten casinos for big bucks when he was playing
BTW - I'm not recommending this - it could get you RFB courtesy of the State of Nevada

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August 17th, 2021 at 4:09:03 AM permalink
I don't think you get to handle the cards in Blackjack.. his form of cheating strongly requires you to handle the cards.
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August 17th, 2021 at 4:28:11 AM permalink
Quote: TwelveOr21

I don't think you get to handle the cards in Blackjack.. his form of cheating strongly requires you to handle the cards.



There are definitely blackjack games where the player handles the cards.
Fewer and fewer as time passes, but they exist.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 17th, 2021 at 6:59:16 AM permalink
Also do some places now use RFIDs in the chips these days? If so they would know something happened and be able to count the number of chips from the tape. (I guess past posting is something that could happen at any table game.)
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August 17th, 2021 at 7:22:28 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Also do some places now use RFIDs in the chips these days? If so they would know something happened and be able to count the number of chips from the tape. (I guess past posting is something that could happen at any table game.)



Pinching, capping, switching, and other forms of past posting are unlawful. Don't do that.

Very reasonable to assume that RFID is a thing.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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August 17th, 2021 at 9:02:12 AM permalink
Question about palming to switch out a card. At about 2:10 in the video.

Where did the other face card come from?
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August 17th, 2021 at 9:19:45 AM permalink
I played a pitched double deck game at Palms last time it was open.

Many years ago I recall being able to cut the deck myself at the Horseshoe single deck but I don't think they have had any good BJack games for a long while now.
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August 17th, 2021 at 9:41:05 AM permalink
If you read my Resorts World thread you know that they use RFID chips to track players at least at Baccarat and to some extent as well at Blackjack.

As I mentioned, sometimes the electronic system does not record the amount of bet accurately, and when this happens, after the bet is won, the dealer actually asks you to pick up your chips and put them back down. This seemed absurd to me and I didn't want to touch my chips after winning, so I asked the dealer to do it, but come to think of it, I really don't want anyone touching my winning pile of chips after a bet has been won until after it has been paid.

Because of this frequent issue, every time I was paid on a large stack I would spill the two stacks side by stack before scooping them to me, to make sure they were the same. Including because their 100 and 500 chips look similar, mistakes were made in payouts.
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August 17th, 2021 at 10:22:21 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I played a pitched double deck game at Palms last time it was open.

Many years ago I recall being able to cut the deck myself at the Horseshoe single deck but I don't think they have had any good BJack games for a long while now.

Back in the day, after I started out Advantage Playing I was taking advantage of this situation. The dealers would expose the bottom card. I was highly accurate at being able thin cut the exact number of cards each time, therefore, knowing when I would get that card dealt to me. I was really only concentrating on the exposed aces before I was willing to make bigger bets. I didn't really take advantage of the situation optimally and spend as much time doing it as I should have, for various reasons.

I remember the Westward Ho was one of the better places to do this.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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August 17th, 2021 at 10:57:29 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Back in the day, after I started out Advantage Playing I was taking advantage of this situation. The dealers would expose the bottom card. I was highly accurate at being able thin cut the exact number of cards each time, therefore, knowing when I would get that card dealt to me. I was really only concentrating on the exposed aces before I was willing to make bigger bets. I didn't really take advantage of the situation optimally and spend as much time doing it as I should have, for various reasons.

I remember the Westward Ho was one of the better places to do this.



The only time I played at the Ho, around 2001, the BJ was not very good. I think you could only double down on 10/11 or maybe 9-10-11. At the time Slots of Fun had better BJ and some very entertaining dealers.
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