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October 28th, 2013 at 10:43:25 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I know more in the tip of my pinky.



You know of a camera for under $500 that will do what I want?

I don't believe you know. I believe you can solve it with a professional sized budget maybe.

I'm talking about cost effective consumer cameras.

Name one for under $1099 just to get started.

But saying this conversation doesn't belong here, but a conversation accusing me of being racist does is a little bit contradictory.

Diversity Tomorrow is where you should take your racism discussion. I have no interest in responding to accusations that I am a racist. Thank you very much, Mr. Alan Mendelson.

A camera model number would have been more terse than your "pinky" comment.

You post a lot of noise, and very little valuable info.
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October 28th, 2013 at 10:52:20 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Your posts are better suited to an electronics forum than to a craps forum.



And also, just so you know, I do talk about what I'm doing on other forums as well. This isn't the only forum I post on. I'm not sure you had contemplated that, but just in case it didn't occur to you.
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October 28th, 2013 at 10:58:58 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

You know of a camera for under $500 that will do what I want?



No I don't but I gave you the info for Samy's Camera in Hollywood and they would know.

Today's top of the line cameras that include low light technology are priced no higher than about $2,000.

I produce a weekly TV show in HD with a set up of two cameras, complete edit software, on a dedicated Mac system, plus wireless microphones, tripods, lights and other accessories all for under $10K. I bought the gear 7 years ago. Today, I could buy the same gear for under $5K. Thats how much prices have dropped.

If you had simply posted your camera/tech needs on a camera forum you would have been flooded with immediate responses. yes, even on a camera forum if you had said you were going to capture the rolls of dice "they would get it."

Of course the camera forum wouldn't know it was you, the greatest craps shooter in the world, who was asking. But you never know? You might have found some new followers over there. A lot of people in Hollywood play craps.
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October 29th, 2013 at 12:17:22 AM permalink
Well, I'm still digging. I found refurbished old models for $500 that will do what I want. But I already know my XR550V does what I need. I paid $1199 for that a few years ago and they aren't any cheaper now unless they are used. I would be fine with a used one if I weren't worried about the condition. So I'm sort of stuck paying $1,000+ at this point to avoid a hassle. I bought my JVC PX-110 camera used and I regret it. I didn't save enough to warrant the wear and tear on that camera. Either way it's not my favorite, and I am partial to Sony camcorders for 1080p60 work with an adjustment dial on it.

I think there's one on E-bay that's relatively clean that has a current bid of $560. And there are some new-in-box that are $800.

So far the $800 new-old-stock seems to be the best gamble. But then I'm looking at for $300 more I could get all the improvements in the latest model.

I'd rather get a new one and with a little more than I need than risk damage or missing features just to save $100 to $500. So I'm leaning towards the HDR-PJ650V I think at the moment still. And for that one, I am not really ready to throw down $1,000 just yet. Still hoping to find a clean HDR-CX550V or HDR-XR550 for $550 on the new condition open box or some such similar deal.

But I do know what I need on the camera, and I don't want to really budge on that. I just need another one like the one I have, and extra features would be great, but mostly looking for fulfilling my expectations compared to my current XR550V model.
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October 30th, 2013 at 6:16:34 AM permalink
I purchased the HDR-PJ650V yesterday from an Ebay retailed in Encino California. I hope to receive it soon.

This will give me the two cameras with controllable shutter speeds that I need. I am already planning how to get my roll recording software set up so that I can run my simulator and be able to have my simulator pull up replays of rolls based on query criteria. For example, "show me all my hard eight releases."

Storing the roll results tied together with the video replays is the next thing to work on with the software.
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October 30th, 2013 at 2:24:43 PM permalink
I find the setup Ahigh is going for in this topic to be fascinating and one step on the way to "proving" that dice control is possible.

Even if he never gets the whole rotational physics detection thing working, just the capability to record the roll results with computer vision would be a big time saver if you were trying to bang out a bunch of rolls and record them, looking for bias.

Anyway, I wish him luck in that endeavor.
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October 30th, 2013 at 3:42:32 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

I find the setup Ahigh is going for in this topic to be fascinating and one step on the way to "proving" that dice control is possible.



I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

1. The technology that Ahigh is trying to develop already exists and he probably can buy it on the open market for less than what he is spending trying to concoct his own technology-system.

2. You really don't need this kind of "high tech" to determine if someone has influence on the dice -- you just have to look at the throw and how the dice travel.

3. Having a frame by frame record of the roll of the dice is a humongous waste of time because once one die goes off axis you cannot say you have "control." The degree of influence will always be debated.
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October 30th, 2013 at 3:57:03 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

1. The technology that Ahigh is trying to develop already exists and he probably can buy it on the open market for less than what he is spending trying to concoct his own technology-system.

2. You really don't need this kind of "high tech" to determine if someone has influence on the dice -- you just have to look at the throw and how the dice travel.

3. Having a frame by frame record of the roll of the dice is a humongous waste of time because once one die goes off axis you cannot say you have "control." The degree of influence will always be debated.

I disagree wholeheartedly Alan.

1)The video technology exists but not the unique programming that ahigh has done.
2) Yes you do need this kind of high tech. There is so much that you can't see with the naked eye, including how well correlated the dice are in the air, let alone how they react after bouncing.
3) it's not a waste of time. I happen to believe that axis control is not possible. I do believe it is possible to influence the dice just not through axis control. If DI is found to be possible, these types of recordings will be instrumental in proving it.
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October 31st, 2013 at 8:06:39 AM permalink
JB85


There are already systems that show influence, and the people that threw all the practice rolls
already have a record, they dont need a video record.

There are hundreds of dice setters in the country, each and everyone has a slightly different
throw. On top of that each and every one is different from day to day and table to table.

If ahigh got one of the good people on his show and his (results) indicated influence, they would have
to be on his show everyday for a year, you cant do it in one session or 2 sessions or 3.

So all that would happen is he makes a fool of anyone that came on, plus what difference would it, the results
can not be extended to anyone else around the country.

The only way ahigh has anything to offer is for him to get good enough to have some control since he throws
on his table everyday, still then it matters to know one else.

If Joe blow has the best dice toss in history, it wont help me make a dime, it wont help you make a dime.

What Ahigh is doing is a complete waste of time...... for all other players....

If you want to help others , help them with their throw, help them with their betting, recording poor
rolls over and over is the sure sign of insanity.


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October 31st, 2013 at 9:00:19 AM permalink
DS, I won't speak for Ahigh, but I personally am interested in the why behind potential DI. I've logged thousands of practice throws over the years and at least on my table at home, it appears that my throw is not random. I'm interested in learning why this is, whether I'm just lucky or if there is truly something there and if it's not luck, how specifically are the dice able to be influenced. I'm also interested in trying to figure out the best way to take advantage of my throw if it turns out to not be random. The software and video equipment that Ahigh created is far and away superior to anything else that anyone has ever come up with and I believe will help answer these questions.
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October 31st, 2013 at 9:16:28 AM permalink
jb85



You already know the why.... it is the people that do the throw, it is how
they throw, where they bounce the dice.

And that changes with every player on every table, everyday.

You cant get a slow motion video of a perfect throw and then say, ok now we have it,
all each of you has to do it make that every time you throw dice... or that roll ended
up on axis, so you make all rolls hit and bounce sharply to the right.

You have made all those practice rolls, no one else, if you enter all of them in a system
like smart craps, using the correct set, you will have your answer, do you have infleunce
or not.

Write all your sessions down..... particularly at the casino, what was your srr tonight, what was
your percentage of on axis finish, or box numbers. You look at those over time and you have your
answer. You cant make a video at the casino anyway.

I would love to have a set up like ahigh, i dont, i am not smart enough to put one together, but i can afford
to have some one else do it and i dont, because it would have no value to me in terms of my
play at a casino.

ahigh is good at this, it is a hobby, good for him.... but this constant crap that every great player in
country has to bow down to him, or seek his blessing or has to reach out to him for one reason or
another baffles the snarf out of me.

The real good players have no idea who he is...period, no more than they know who you and i are.

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October 31st, 2013 at 12:20:51 PM permalink
and absolutely nobody know or cares who "real good players" are !
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October 31st, 2013 at 1:39:29 PM permalink
I feel like as good as anybody at craps. I am able to keep concentration as well as anyone I know. I feel like that helps right at the end when the dice may or may not take that last flip.


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October 31st, 2013 at 1:57:30 PM permalink
@Zcore

Has Buckee's [sp?] ever had craps or considered putting it in?

It seems like there are a lot of old guys around there that might be nostalgic for the time when gambling had the allure of Vegas.

Prescott is real pretty, I liked walking the downtown area and park.

Is craps just not as profitable for the casino per square foot or to labor intensive or just to big an attraction for degenerate gamblers?
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October 31st, 2013 at 2:06:12 PM permalink
Live craps and live roulette are not legal in Arizona. If/when it does become legal, we'll probably get it.


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October 31st, 2013 at 2:18:38 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Live craps and live roulette are not legal in Arizona. If/when it does become legal, we'll probably get it.


ZCore13



Are you allowed to have "card craps" like California? Laws really boggle me at times. Is craps more evil/addictive than slots or video poker or something?
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October 31st, 2013 at 2:23:31 PM permalink
I'd have no interest in the card version. I don't know if any other casino has ever wanted it. I think it would probable be legal.


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October 31st, 2013 at 2:24:10 PM permalink
Thanks,

Hard to understand the logic.

Personally don't see the difference if it's somehow a moral decision?
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October 31st, 2013 at 3:18:18 PM permalink
Quote: JB85

I disagree wholeheartedly Alan.

1)The video technology exists but not the unique programming that ahigh has done.



I seemed to have missed what is unique? There are plenty of commercial software programs that can already show slow motion and animate rolls, as well as software to record motion and project changes.

Start here: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/what-is/

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October 31st, 2013 at 3:55:40 PM permalink
In my opinion

If your ever want to know how good your shot is.... Just tap your pockets after you shoot... If they are not full, you know where you stand.. But if you always find yourself running to the cages, you might have something then my friends.

Everything with that set up is obvious to the human eye... The only way to get better at shooting, is to shoot....

Honestly, in my opinion, everyone has there vice when it comes to craps... The math guys collect data... The action junkies bet big on prop bets. The conservatives make minimum places bets until they bust on their bankrolls... For ahigh, He works with software.. so he's curving his work and gambling to create a hobby in the middle..

I always found more in the question of influence than I probably ever would find an answer..
From putting in some very intense years of shooting, with data, it's tough to argue with the fact you can not do it exactly the same everytime. So I truly understand why most say it's random. There are too many variables...

Yet in the same breath, its just something about that moment when you are on a hot roll, and the whole table is feeling good, and you throw down a 75 hard 8 hopping, and you feel it in your bones, with 4/4 on top that it's coming..... And it does...

My conclusion: the fact that you can question "the question" of influence makes it possible..
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October 31st, 2013 at 4:54:38 PM permalink
Quote: TheWolf713

In my opinion

If your ever want to know how good your shot is.... Just tap your pockets after you shoot... If they are not full, you know where you stand.. But if you always find yourself running to the cages, you might have something then my friends.

Everything with that set up is obvious to the human eye... The only way to get better at shooting, is to shoot....

Honestly, in my opinion, everyone has there vice when it comes to craps... The math guys collect data... The action junkies bet big on prop bets. The conservatives make minimum places bets until they bust on their bankrolls... For ahigh, He works with software.. so he's curving his work and gambling to create a hobby in the middle..

I always found more in the question of influence than I probably ever would find an answer..
From putting in some very intense years of shooting, with data, it's tough to argue with the fact you can not do it exactly the same everytime. So I truly understand why most say it's random. There are too many variables...

Yet in the same breath, its just something about that moment when you are on a hot roll, and the whole table is feeling good, and you throw down a 75 hard 8 hopping, and you feel it in your bones, with 4/4 on top that it's coming..... And it does...

My conclusion: the fact that you can question "the question" of influence makes it possible..



People question "the question" of if we really ever went to the moon, or if Elvis really died. So if they question them they could be right?

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October 31st, 2013 at 5:20:07 PM permalink
Of the questions that you posed... They both have proof.... You can dig up a body for one.. As for the moon... They put a rover on Mars... Which kicks the moon to curb side.

Something that "IS" should be definite. The argument of random is correct only to a certain degree. The possibility of influence is only possible to a certain degree. Defining those degrees is the only action that needs to take place... The all or nothing component of this phenomenon needs to be abandoned.

Just saying it "Is" Random is not definite. which leads to the question, which infers to the slim possibility, that makes it true to a certain degree.

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October 31st, 2013 at 6:53:13 PM permalink
Aaron bemoans the fact that no no DIs have come over and allowed themselves to be filmed while shooting precisely.

It seems to me that just like a TV station, he's gonna have to PAY for his TV material.

He should put out a challenge: offer an attractive sum of money, e.g. one, five or even ten grand, depending on how well heeled he REALLY is, to anyone who can repeatedly demonstrate a controlled throw on his table while being filmed.

Let it be up to us on this board to review the tape and determine whether in fact he found a real DI.

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October 31st, 2013 at 6:56:31 PM permalink
Dice setters rarely accept challenges of any sort.
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October 31st, 2013 at 7:00:13 PM permalink
Yeah, but if the payday is big enough, even Bigfoot hissownself would show up.
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October 31st, 2013 at 7:04:31 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Aaron bemoans the fact that no no DIs have come over and allowed themselves to be filmed while shooting precisely.

It seems to me that just like a TV station, he's gonna have to PAY for his TV material.

He should put out a challenge: offer an attractive sum of money, e.g. one, five or even ten grand, depending on how well heeled he REALLY is, to anyone who can repeatedly demonstrate a controlled throw on his table while being filmed.

Let it be up to us on this board to review the tape and determine whether in fact he found a real DI.

Masks optional.



As someone posted earlier... There would be no benefit for a shooter to prove what they can do on camera.... Here are the scenarios

1: They prove its possible, and lose the one "edge" they have at the table.
2: They do not show proof immediately and are ridiculed thus losing their following (i.e books, subscribers, etc.)

There is only one proof.... Winning
I know a DI who never touches the dice and yet he still wins..... WOAH he influences the table with his mind!!! (freaky!)
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October 31st, 2013 at 7:25:24 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

I seemed to have missed what is unique? There are plenty of commercial software programs that can already show slow motion and animate rolls, as well as software to record motion and project changes.

Start here: http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/what-is/

I'll be polite: you're not going to sucker me into buying this bridge.



Now not being in the business what you are telling everybody is that Ahigh is trying to reinvent the wheel after it's all ready been invented, and is cheaper to just go out and buy one.

Some of the guys are bringing up good points about this whole thing, every table you go on is different, the dice are different, and the one thing that kills shooters when they are shooting is the other players that are doing everything in their power to get the shooter to 7 out. While 99.9% of craps players don't think about how they act, and what they do will effect the shooter when they are throwing the dice. It's not the same when you have a guy that is a DI shooting at home, then going into the a casino and shooting.

When they are home they have nobody on the table, most guys that are practicing have no chips in their way, the dice are not changed every 8 hours. Everything is very consistent at home, it's the perfect craps shooting environment, but that all changes when you hit the tables in a casino.

So even if they were to go in front of a camera and made 200 rolls of the dice it still wouldn't prove anything if he did beat the 7 to roll ratio!
We heard Ahigh say look at that perfect dice correlation between the dice when they were in the air, only to see them bouncing all over the place when they hit the table. So far everybody that has seen these videos are in two groups, the ones that can't see what these videos are showing everybody and still want to believe that they are doing something special when they are throwing the dice.

Then you have the guys that are taking the videos at there face value, and can see that once the dice hit the table they are bouncing all over the place, and are truly random. You can't say that what you are doing has anything to do with control of the dice. While we all think that we have great eyesight that is far from the truth, we can't slow down what we are seeing and what happens in ten thousands of a second our eyes can't catch.

I've been saying that when someone gets on a roll we are all just getting lucky, everything is just right, most so-called DI's know not to play on full tables, so they can have better shooting conditions. Their dice are not bouncing off everybody's chips, there are no hands in their way when they are shooting and they keep getting the dice right back when they are shooting.

For anybody to go on Ahigh show, is just foolishness on their part, we have all seen how Ahigh now writes about the guys that failed his little test on his show, and we all know that every casino out there now has access to all of his videos. Fortunately the are seeing what really happens when the dice hit the tables we all play on, in a controlled environment, all of those shots took place, and they still couldn't beat probability!

Craps has stood the test of time, that is why they still have it in the casinos, if it wasn't for all the hype that has been written by the guys that are selling the schools that teach shooting, all the table we play on would still be the same, the boxmen would be fat and lazy, they would no longer spend there time chasing the dice because the foolish casinos that read all the hype made their tables like trampolines, therefore costing themselves money because they are not getting the rolls per hour!

The super smart casino managers are all paper hangers now days, they too have no common sense. There are many books on casino management that tell them not to sweat the dice setter, but they ignore what they paid to read. Now days casinos are run by pencil pushers, that's if they even know what a pencil is. The younger generation only knows what computers tell them!

They are now running off any player that gets lucky and bets them for a while, heads roll every time a table dumps, they blame it on the dealers or anybody they can find to blame it on. I don't know how many times I have seen a suit giving a dealer hell because a player was winning.

What Ahigh doesn't realize is he can be the smartest guy out there, but if he doesn't have the social skills he needs, he is only going to work with himself. Nobody wants to be belittled by anybody, I think that I proved that by just using aHigh when writing anything about him. Maybe if he will tone down the way he writes about anybody he will get more help with what he is trying to do, if not he can go right along working by himself!
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October 31st, 2013 at 10:30:06 PM permalink
Quote: TheWolf713

As someone posted earlier... There would be no benefit for a shooter to prove what they can do on camera.... Here are the scenarios

1: They prove its possible, and lose the one "edge" they have at the table.
2: They do not show proof immediately and are ridiculed thus losing their following (i.e books, subscribers, etc.)

There is only one proof.... Winning
I know a DI who never touches the dice and yet he still wins..... WOAH he influences the table with his mind!!! (freaky!)







That would be great to get him on the show.


Are you sure he's influencing the table and not the dice?


I read about some personalities over on a baccarat thread that could do that, any chance he's Canadian?
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November 1st, 2013 at 5:07:40 AM permalink
Quote: TheWolf713

I know a DI who never touches the dice and yet he still wins..... WOAH he influences the table with his mind!!! (freaky!)

Quote: petroglyph

That would be great to get him on the show.

Hell, if he's that good at influencing the ambient air, he should also be able to control the skies and oceans.
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November 13th, 2013 at 4:04:07 PM permalink
Some general-interest news about everyone's favorite ex-member:

NanoTech Entertainment (NTEK) Expands Casino Gaming Business - Hires Aaron Hightower

Stock Symbol NTEK (Pink Sheets). Currently $0.14 a share.
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November 13th, 2013 at 4:34:03 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Some general-interest news about everyone's favorite ex-member: Stock Symbol NTEK (Pink Sheets). Currently $0.14 a share.



Congratulations to Aaron! How do I buy pink sheet stocks?
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November 13th, 2013 at 4:38:46 PM permalink
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Congratulations to Aaron! How do I buy pink sheet stocks?


Most online brokerage houses will trade them for you. I'm with Charles Schwab; I just checked NTEK and I can purchase it in my online account.

Several months ago I decided to speculate in the burgeoning legal and/or medical marijuana industry and purchased more than a dozen pink sheet/penny stocks. I was amazed at how easy it was.
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November 13th, 2013 at 4:58:25 PM permalink
What stocks are available in that industry?

I see a great future for it.

Just placed an order for NTEK.

Heck, what could go wrong with AHigh at the tiller?
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November 13th, 2013 at 5:16:37 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

How do I buy pink sheet stocks?



Usually, you don't. But I guess if you are a gambler you can.

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November 13th, 2013 at 5:30:02 PM permalink
Ahigh works? Who 's gonna shoot dice?
teddys
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November 13th, 2013 at 5:43:33 PM permalink
I love the potential irony in this quote:
Quote:


"Mr. Hightower's design specialty lies in 'hardcore repeat gameplay' - games with repetitive actions that result in various outcomes depending somewhat on strategy but mostly on chance. "



I wish they had mentioned that he was the world's foremost dice controller in the release.

A friend here in Ohio bought NTEK at $0.01 a share. (Before AHigh signed on). He said it has done better than any stock he has ever owned.

I'm placing an order as soon as I can figure out my brokerage account.
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
Boz
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November 13th, 2013 at 5:59:34 PM permalink
I figured he didn't have to work after breaking the Trop in AC last month.
100xOdds
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November 13th, 2013 at 6:47:20 PM permalink
my brokerage (Optionshouse) allows me to buy NTEK.

52wk high was reached at the end of Oct at $0.18 and has been dropping since.

now what am I speculating on? that aligh will do great things for this company?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
teddys
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November 13th, 2013 at 6:48:29 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

my brokerage (Optionshouse) allows me to buy NTEK.

now what am I speculating on? that aligh will do great things for this company?
(52wk high is $0.18)

I don't know about you but I am doing a pump and dump :)
"Dice, verily, are armed with goads and driving-hooks, deceiving and tormenting, causing grievous woe." -Rig Veda 10.34.4
AcesAndEights
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November 13th, 2013 at 8:01:43 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

What stocks are available in that industry?

I see a great future for it.


Here's my portfolio:
CBIS
CANV
EDXC
ENDO
FSPM
GRNH
PHOT
HEMP
MDBX
MJNA
MWIP
RFMK
SRER
TRTC
ERBB

Most of them are in the "picks and shovels" business, i.e. they research and/or produce more efficient ways to ingest weed, via processing or technology. Some of them are in the distribution tech business. I didn't really do enough research into any of them, it was more of a "spray and pray" approach.

The whole thing is down about 3.5% since I got in the game in July. There will be billions to be made in this industry as more states legalize. Sadly I don't think I'm going get much, if any, of that profit. The real winners will be the big private investment funds that collect hundreds of thousands of dollars and identify successful small, privately owned businesses to buy. Anyway, I hope to cut off at least a small slice of that pie.

I generally don't speculate in stocks, being a random-walking buy-and-hold indexer. But in this specific case, I feel like there are a lot of people who don't want to invest for moral reasons. Anyway, it's my one "gamble" in the stock market.
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Zcore13
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November 13th, 2013 at 10:59:35 PM permalink
Quote: MrV



Just placed an order for NTEK.

Heck, what could go wrong with AHigh at the tiller?



Lol ! That's one of the funnier things I've seen in a while. Oh let us count the ways...

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MrV
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:05:57 AM permalink
Good grief.

I buy some NTEK, and it starts sinking.

Drat.
"What, me worry?"
Boz
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:13:19 AM permalink
Ahigh aside, there are a reason why these stocks are traded like this. Simple research will show how many of these are artificially inflated to be then dumped by the owners. I am not saying this company is one of these, but the risks are there in any thinly traded stock. Let the buyer beware.
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November 14th, 2013 at 9:20:07 AM permalink
Congrats, Aaron!
Beethoven9th
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November 14th, 2013 at 8:06:28 PM permalink
I came across some photos of the great Gustav Mahler and just realized that he kinda looks like Ahigh (if you block out Mahler's different hairstyle). Does anyone else see a resemblance?




(NOTE: This should be seen as a compliment since Mahler is one of the all-time greats!)
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boymimbo
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November 15th, 2013 at 1:52:25 AM permalink
Congratulations to Aaron are in order!!! Good luck at your new position.
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MrV
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April 19th, 2014 at 12:12:22 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Just placed an order for NTEK.

Heck, what could go wrong with AHigh at the tiller?



Follow up:

Since then, NTEK has absolutely TANKED, and the freefall continues apace.

My investment in NTEK is down almost 60% since last November.

So predictable.

*golf clap*

"What, me worry?"
Boz
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April 19th, 2014 at 12:17:12 PM permalink
At least you can laugh about it...and it is hard to put a value on that!
Zcore13
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April 19th, 2014 at 1:00:37 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Follow up:

Since then, NTEK has absolutely TANKED, and the freefall continues apace.

My investment in NTEK is down almost 60% since last November.

So predictable.

*golf clap*



Did you really think that guy would make the stock go up?

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MrV
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April 19th, 2014 at 2:25:20 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Did you really think that guy would make the stock go up? ZCore13



I'd hoped.

Alas, pinning one's star to a dreamer is not a good idea.
"What, me worry?"
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