tuttigym
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June 21st, 2021 at 12:39:16 PM permalink
Mr.SP: Thanks for your thoughtful response. You are close. My personal craps gambling philosophy regarding the PL wager as the ultimate con of the casino which offers a one roll two to one advantage to the shooter only to have the "house" take away that advantage when a point is established. That being said, I would start any hand with $25 PL; $25 DP + $1 on the 12. I have now created, for me, table options based on the point established, and I basically break even with the come-out roll. The $1 is collateral damage in most cases. More to follow if you would like to carry your additional thoughts and creativity forward.

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June 21st, 2021 at 12:46:20 PM permalink
Mr Chump c: Thanks for your reply. Your post strongly suggests that you are NOT a player, not any kind of a risk taker, but will jump into a gambling conversation without any real knowledge or table experience. How does what you say or write have any validity to those you address??

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June 21st, 2021 at 1:06:06 PM permalink
Mr. C Patrick: My thread stated that I did walk out. Cherokee has only one casino, so I did not play. The thread IS attempting to find players who can think and play "outside the box." Traditional or "establishment" players have their feet "planted in cement" when it comes to their play which usually results in multiple losses and mental or emotional nausea. One plays to win but also to have fun. That is what I am trying to establish.

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June 21st, 2021 at 1:08:48 PM permalink
Mr. Heatmap: I did not ask, but in my defense, Harrah's does not make exceptions and the tables were jammed.

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June 21st, 2021 at 1:19:43 PM permalink
Mr. onebok: Thanks for your thoughtful response. You are very correct in your assessment of the $500 buy-in at the $25 table. "Establishment" players will wager as you have written because they cannot be creative in their wagers AND they are, for the most part undisciplined trying to recover losses with larger and more foolish bets. My thread specifies bets between $3 -$15 (acceptable) even at the $25 table. Think about it a little more. Two or three numbers can be played.

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June 21st, 2021 at 1:53:02 PM permalink
Save your money and take a trip out to Nevada where you have better options when it comes to playing BJ. My friend from Connecticut doesn't like playing at the casinos in the NE for that reason, the minimum bet is too high. He's staying on Freemont St in Vegas then heading up to Reno for a few days where $5 BJ and 3:2 payouts still exists at many casinos.
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June 21st, 2021 at 2:00:23 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

... The inflated table minimum was because of Memorial Day. It was not permanent although I am confident that weekend evenings will send those minimums back to $25.


Sunday and Monday a week prior to your visit, I was at Harrah's Cherokee and met up with our fellow member odiousgambit. (He made a blog post about our experiences.) While I was there, the crap table minimum was $25 at some tables and $15 at others. Even that is pricier than I like, but I was winning, so I tolerated the tariff for a while. On Monday we spent a little time at their "Roll-to-Win" craps table with a $5 minimum. That is discussed some in OG's blog entry.
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June 21st, 2021 at 3:31:07 PM permalink
Doc: I believe the holiday crowd play was so substantial that the "demand" exceeded the "supply" so that "market forces" allowed for the inflationary table minimums to rise. Mid-week play will subside and the tables will not be so crowded with minimums retreating.

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June 21st, 2021 at 3:48:53 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

If the only available craps table has a $25 minimum, and if you are bound and determined to play craps and want a system that might give you a chance to bet at the $25 level, then I suggest the following:

Bet a buck each on hard six and eight.

Yeah, horrible HA...anyway, keep making the bet, every shooter.

When it hits increase the bet on each a couple units, and regress to a buck each if the profit is lost.

If you get a hit at the higher level then you should have enough money to make a few $25 bets.



I think the hardway minimums are $5 on a $25 table.
Since a $39 (+$1 vig) Lay 5 or 9 pays $26, maybe that's the minimum for those lay bets, otherwise I'd go for a $30 (+$1 vig) lay bet on the 5 or 9 that pays $20. Play the Lays on the Come-outs when people are rolling 7's and maybe for 2 rolls after that when they still roll 7's. Just one bet at a time.
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June 21st, 2021 at 3:57:40 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

That being said, I would start any hand with $25 PL; $25 DP + $1 on the 12. I have now created, for me, table options based on the point established, and I basically break even with the come-out roll.

You can call that "The No Chance of Winning System". When you play roulette, do you bet red and black at the same time?

What do you mean you basically break even on the come out roll?
Itís all about making that GTA

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