AlanMendelson
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July 7th, 2021 at 1:21:43 PM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

Okay, I can go with that, but the questions I have asked are still relevant to the conclusions reached. What is the weight difference? What margin of error does that weight difference make? If the difference is infinitesimally small, those questions above are particularly pertinent?
You did not answer the "pot roast" question? Why? Embarrassed? Don't be.

tuttigym



Simply there is no reason to continue this discussion.
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July 7th, 2021 at 2:20:37 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Simply there is no reason to continue this discussion.




what was the reason for the discussion in the first place? The OP has some unconventional ideas and thinks the math doesn't matter.
He continues to hold to his beliefs in spite of the evidence to the contrary. Has forty pages of back and forth moved the needle?
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July 8th, 2021 at 7:17:34 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Simply there is no reason to continue this discussion.


Folks do need to move on. There is a block thread option.
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tuttigym
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July 8th, 2021 at 10:43:11 AM permalink
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1) From your computer or phone, whatever device you are using to post. You have to save the picture or chart to your computer/phone first.

2) Once you click the blue insert picture button you’ll see how to do it.


Mr. unJon you have very helpful and patient. I have one question and perhaps you can help me. Is there a way to copy a post from a different thread, a post that might affirm one's position or stance, and then insert it into another or more current thread? Thanks for your time.

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July 8th, 2021 at 10:44:48 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Folks do need to move on. There is a block thread option.



I agree. I will post one more time with some overall observations and move on.

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unJon
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July 8th, 2021 at 10:46:42 AM permalink
Quote: tuttigym

Mr. unJon you have very helpful and patient. I have one question and perhaps you can help me. Is there a way to copy a post from a different thread, a post that might affirm one's position or stance, and then insert it into another or more current thread? Thanks for your time.

tuttigym



There is but it’s a bit annoying.

1) Go to the post you want to quote.

2) Push the blue “quote” button.

3) Then I’m the box to reply copy the whole text that appears, which would be the post you are quoting.

4) Go to the thread you want to text in and hit the blue “reply” button.

5) Paste the text you copied. You will now be quoting the post from the different thread. Type whatever reply you like as you normally would.
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July 8th, 2021 at 10:50:10 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

There is but it’s a bit annoying.

1) Go to the post you want to quote.

2) Push the blue “quote” button.

3) Then I’m the box to reply copy the whole text that appears, which would be the post you are quoting.

4) Go to the thread you want to text in and hit the blue “reply” button.

5) Paste the text you copied. You will now be quoting the post from the different thread. Type whatever reply you like as you normally would.



Thank you
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July 8th, 2021 at 11:02:23 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

There is but it’s a bit annoying.
1) Go to the post you want to quote.
2) Push the blue “quote” button.
3) Then I’m the box to reply copy the whole text that appears, which would be the post you are quoting.
4) Go to the thread you want to text in and hit the blue “reply” button.
5) Paste the text you copied. You will now be quoting the post from the different thread. Type whatever reply you like as you normally would.


One might also want to copy and paste the permalink (top right of a post) to link to the other post in another thread. That way people will know where the post comes from and will help to avoid misquoting.

Example:
I copy/pasted the permalink and copy/pasted the post that started this thread:

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/36080-defeating-the-25-table-minimum/#post810338

Quote: tuttigym

Last Memorial Day I went to Harrah's Casino in Cherokee, NC, about 2 hrs. drive from home, for some gambling action. To my dismay, the table minimums were $25. I immediately turned away, played some slots, and left very disappointed. Time passed and I thought out a plan, which I have NOT tried yet, on how to defeat the $25 casino imposed minimum with legal small bets ($3-15), still use the $25 minimum when necessary, play for an hour or more without going bankrupt on a "cold" or "choppy" table, and possibly walking away winning. So to those of you forum player/participants, using your creative juices, tell us how one would attack those greedy casinos and the $25 table minimum using those small table legal bets in conjunction with the $25 minimum as required. Your buy-in should be $500. Your plan can be point specific. After a week of answers, I will reveal my plan or "system."

ChumpChange
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August 16th, 2021 at 1:29:49 AM permalink
Here's one: Bet $30 on the DP, add $120 odds, bet $30 each on 3 numbers (ie. PB 6 & 8 & 5). You'll have $240 on the table all at once.
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August 16th, 2021 at 11:36:37 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Here's one: Bet $30 on the DP, add $120 odds, bet $30 each on 3 numbers (ie. PB 6 & 8 & 5). You'll have $240 on the table all at once.


I am not criticizing but asking your informed opinion of my take on a possible refinement of your plan.

1. Would it be better to play the Doey/Don't at CO to protect the DP bet from a natural winner?

2. What adjustments would you make if the point was:
6 or 8?
5 or 9?
4 or 10?

I know you realize that one would need three hits on the PBs to break even with the DP odds. Is that a reasonable risk for you?

Thanks for the input. I will try it on the WoO simulation game to see how it might play out.

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August 16th, 2021 at 12:06:51 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

Here's one: Bet $30 on the DP, add $120 odds, bet $30 each on 3 numbers (ie. PB 6 & 8 & 5). You'll have $240 on the table all at once.


Just tried it without my adjustment on WinCraps and WoO sim games. Both worked well. The DP bet makes up for the odds deficit. Only big loser is multiple consistent point conversions or a hot shooter that converts immediately.

If the point is a 4 or 10 would you play the $30 PB on those points with the 6 & 8?

Also would you consider hopping the 7 at CO for $6?

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August 16th, 2021 at 1:36:23 PM permalink
I was thinking of a completely different strategy that starts out at what I wrote. You can fill in the blanks on what works for you.
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