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December 10th, 2018 at 5:25:22 AM permalink
I will answer here one post and then if the mods want it moved to a separate thread im fine. Everyone is asking on this thread.

Here is what i witnessed.

1) A female player who for over a week did funky stuff with her Ipad. Her behavior was also funky. She never watched the game. Only her ipad briefly pausing to make bets

Also she would ONLY sit on one seat at first base position on the left side of the table. She was religious about this even refusing to play until that particular seat became available

After one week security surrounded her and immediately confiscated the Ipad. She was taken away. Security was examining and going thru her ipad right there

2) Maybe a month later one bubble die landed cockeyed against the wall as soon as the floor started bouncing. It was clear nothing was gonna shake it off this weird position

When the floor stopped shaking the machine froze naturally. All player waited 30 minutes for the companies tech to arrive to fix

He DID NOT touch the dice or floor or even open the bubble. Instead he accessed the panel of the empty seat next to me (coincidentally the very same seat this woman had always insisted on playing at) and pushed a button in the computer. That made the die wiggle and shake ON ITS OWN which caused it to fall over

I asked what he had done and he ssid there were chips inside that the computer read to determine pips.

He wasnt going to tell me more than that obviously but I witnessed the die move witbout outside physical inertia

Between those 2 events you can put together that it is possible to affect the dice remotely

Im not accusing casinos of doing that. Just that its possible

And to directly answer axels question why I dont take advantage of it myself, it would require use of a computer device and I dont want my helicopter ride from the casino be a trip to the state penitentiary
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December 10th, 2018 at 5:39:29 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

I will answer here one post and then if the mods want it moved to a separate thread im fine. Everyone is asking on this thread.

Here is what i witnessed.

1) A female player who for over a week did funky stuff with her Ipad. Her behavior was also funky. She never watched the game. Only her ipad briefly pausing to make bets

After one week security surrounded her and immediately confiscated the Ipad. She was taken away. Security was examining and going thru her ipad right there

2) Maybe a month later one bubble die landed cockeyed against the wall as soon as the floor started bouncing. It was clear nothing was gonna shake it off this weird position

When the floor stopped shaking the machine froze naturally. All player waited 30 minutes for the companies tech to arrive to fix

He DID NOT touch the dice or floor or even open the bubble. Instead he accessed the panel of the empty seat next to me and pushed a button in the computer. That made the die wiggle and shake ON ITS OWN which caused it to fall over

I asked what he had done and he ssid there were chips inside that the computer read to determine pips.

He wasnt going to tell me more than that obviously but I witnessed the die move witbout outside physical inertia

Between those 2 events you can put together that it is possible to affect the dice remotely

Im not accusing casinos of doing that. Just that its possible

And to directly answer axels question why I dont take advantage of it myself, I dont want my helicopter ride from the casino be a trip to the state penitentiary



Item 1 means absolutely nothing to the question. She was probably being paid to sit there and run money through someone's account via the game, maybe her own. I have seen many young women doing this on slots and other machines. No interest in the game, don't even bother to notice big wins or bonuses. They just keep betting and spinning, probably with instructions on what to play, maybe with real-time coordination via the ipad, but more likely something that interested her more on there.

Item 2 is interesting. Still could be a randomizer-shaker, or a maintenance-only keyed function that doesn't operate when the game is in live mode. Was it a strong enough bounce that the die could do anything other than fall on its nearest face?.
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December 10th, 2018 at 5:39:42 AM permalink
So you have zero evidence to back up your statement. Lol. You watched a lady for a week straight. Good one.


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December 10th, 2018 at 5:41:55 AM permalink
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So you have zero evidence to back up your statement. Lol. You watched a lady for a week straight. Good one.


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Interesting how you conveniently left out the second incident
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December 10th, 2018 at 5:45:38 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Item 1 means absolutely nothing to the question. She was probably being paid to sit there and run money through someone's account via the game, maybe her own. I have seen many young women doing this on slots and other machines. No interest in the game, don't even bother to notice big wins or bonuses. They just keep betting and spinning, probably with instructions on what to play, maybe with real-time coordination via the ipad, but more likely something that interested her more on there.

Item 2 is interesting. Still could be a randomizer-shaker, or a maintenance-only keyed function that doesn't operate when the game is in live mode. Was it a strong enough bounce that the die could do anything other than fall on its nearest face?.



It wasnt a bounce. It was a wiggle that caused it to dislodge from its position

It resembled a magic trick where a magician makes an object just move of its own accord
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December 10th, 2018 at 6:28:31 AM permalink
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Interesting how you conveniently left out the second incident



Because it was as ridiculous as the 1st.


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December 10th, 2018 at 7:35:31 AM permalink
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Because it was as ridiculous as the 1st.


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Please explain. Ridiculous because you donít think it happened, or that the tech guy lied to darkoz? Or do you think the story is true but the conclusion DO draws is ridiculous?
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December 10th, 2018 at 7:59:46 AM permalink
Besides the chips in the dice theory, how does the machine know what sides the dice landed on?
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December 10th, 2018 at 8:13:31 AM permalink
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Please explain. Ridiculous because you donít think it happened, or that the tech guy lied to darkoz? Or do you think the story is true but the conclusion DO draws is ridiculous?



It may have happened that way in his mind. Most of the conclusions he and ZK come to are twisted stories of mixed fact and fiction.

Yes, there are sensors in the machines to tell what the dice roll is. Of course there are. There's not tiny men that live in the machine doing data entry.

No, they can't "activate these sensors or the games computer chips or anything else to create a number on the die they want or don't want.

He didn't watch a lady for a week straight either. A few minutes, a few hours, maybe. I week straight? Lol.

As with all conspiracy theorists, they take actual events and manipulate them to their liking.


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December 10th, 2018 at 8:39:44 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

It may have happened that way in his mind. Most of the conclusions he and ZK come to are twisted stories of mixed fact and fiction.

Yes, there are sensors in the machines to tell what the dice roll is. Of course there are. There's not tiny men that live in the machine doing data entry.

No, they can't "activate these sensors or the games computer chips or anything else to create a number on the die they want or don't want.

He didn't watch a lady for a week straight either. A few minutes, a few hours, maybe. I week straight? Lol.

As with all conspiracy theorists, they take actual events and manipulate them to their liking.


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Do you know whether or not the sensors are in the dice?
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