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superrick
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April 1st, 2013 at 9:56:48 AM permalink
Has Frank Scoblete taking over this board so he can market one more of his books?

So here you have a guy that has probably done more damage to the game of craps then most, this is not just my opinion, so is he here after is so-called retirement, writing on the different boards just to pump up his new book? I can only think of one other guy that has done damages to the game of craps, that is just a fiction writer, that nobody has ever seen in a casino, MP! He writes the most outrages claims to fame like taking a cool half million off a table with a $2000 buy-in, in a very vague way of writing about what he did,.. you had to do the math to figure out how much he would have won, but he did write that in that one roll, he rolled 18, 4's and 19, 10's. What a great piece of fiction.

There is a big difference in the two guys, You can see Frank playing at different casinos around the country, and yes I've seen Frank on a few good rolls, when I was watching him shoot.
I just think Frank didn't know when to stop promoting his school and everything he sells.
If you write that your going to rob the bank, Frank what do you expect the casinos to do? Then you have these guys that are just writing fiction jumping on your bandwagon the casinos are bound to try to stop you.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/13529-can-you-be-banned-for-dice-control-have-casinos-done-this/3/
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FS
I don't know if I will be the ruin of craps. I hope not. There are more craps tables in America today than at any time in history. They are just spread out. But one truly negative thing is happening. The casinos would love slot-table-games or electronic-table-games (as they call them here in New York) to take over the landscape. Yes, that would be a sin

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In the above quote is Frank admitting he did damage, you tell me Frank! By no means I'm I calling you a bad guy, I just think you are like all the others that don't know when to stop hitting a casino, thinking that they are your personal ATM's and were teaching that to your students and the casinos! I see that kind of behavior all the time. Some of the guys that are winning playing craps keep going back to the same casinos, thinking that is the only place they can win, when that tap on the shoulder comes they don't know what they did wrong!
Note, all my post start with this is just my opinion...! You do good brada ..! superrick Winning comes from knowledge and skill when your betting and not reading fiction http://procraps4u2.myfanforum.org/index.php ...
Keyser
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:06:11 AM permalink
Superrick,

When I read your comments I feel like I've been listening to too much Pink Floyd. Sometime it appears that you're arguing that dice control is fake, while other times you're arguing that Frank Scoblete is destroying the game because he's winning too much, burning it down, and bringing too much attention to the game.

Are you playing both sides here, or are you just attempting to make us all feel like we are on drugs?


-Keyser
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:14:52 AM permalink
He might be giving push to his new book; he might be getting ideas to use to give it push; or he might have stopped in by chance. To me it is nice to have a new voice and get some new ideas. I am happy to have him here and feel he has conducted himself professionally.
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Ahigh
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:21:02 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Superrick,

When I read your comments I feel like I've been listening to too much Pink Floyd. Sometime it appears that you're arguing that dice control is fake, while other times you're arguing that Frank Scoblete is destroying the game because he's winning too much, burning it down, and bringing too much attention to the game.

Are you playing both sides here, or are you just attempting to make us all feel like we are on drugs?

-Keyser



I get confused by Rick sometimes too. But I think that he dislikes people who write things that aren't true because it reflects poorly on those who actually do work instead of lying.
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SanchoPanza
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:23:38 AM permalink
Quote: Keyser

Are you playing both sides here, or are you just attempting to make us all feel like we are on drugs?


Or we might use a craps phrase like, "Betting the doey-don't?"
Keyser
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:30:52 AM permalink
He's promoting a new book and...

Going into so much detail on a website designed to facilitate the advancement of someone inside the casino risk consulting industry would not be a good idea if his intentions were otherwise. My guess is that FS is also looking for an opportunity to open some doors as a consultant, promoting a new book, and dreaming of a movie, since his world is getting smaller due to the barrings.

It used to be that if you were banned from one casino property, like the Bellagio, that you'd only be banned, from just the Bellagio. Now these companies are extending the barrings to all of their properties. So if you're banned from the Bellagio, you're banned from the MGM, Mandalay, Aria, and every other property that they own! Caesar's is the same way.

I'm sure Ego plays into it as well. I don't mean that in a negative way. It's just that the excitement of success is probably overwhelming at times, and now he likely feels that sharing in the excitement is ok, since he's, perhaps, looking in a new direction.

In short, it's likely all about the dream of a movie, a new book, and being paid to consult.

Either way, he's doing a pretty good job of accomplishing the above. But I think the movie might be out of reach.

-Keyser
FrankScoblete
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:48:04 AM permalink
I am always promoting new books, old books, television shows I've written or been on. Those of you who are writers know that is what you do. Movie actors tour the television shows to pump up their movies. So do writers. Goes with the territory.

As far as consulting, those jobs come in from time to time but it is usually the movies or television, not casinos. I have done slot consulting of the type, "Which machines will players play the most?" or in lawsuits filed company versus company. I once did a casino consultation for dealers in how to be the best dealers for the players.

As far as writing a movie, my movies have nothing to do with gambling but I assure you when one gets made, I will push that too.

I don't pretend to not want to sell my books; that's why I write them.

Coming here (at first) was just to get the experience of various message boards. I'd write some stuff, see the level of discussion, then I would include them in a chapter I am writing for a new book (not due at my publisher until November 1st) where I rate the site. This site is damn good --- maybe the best so far --- and even though I should not be coming here during the week because I have deadlines, most of the posts are so interesting I almost can't stay away. I am refraining from going to all the sections because then I might spend my life here. Although I prefer the dropping of sarcasm in posts that disagree with me, most of the posters here are quite intelligent and give their opinions thoughtfully.

Frank
Keyser
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April 1st, 2013 at 10:58:38 AM permalink
I think the sarcasm is over the top as well. Some of it is just plain cynical and hateful.

I honestly don't see anything wrong with your promoting. Many of the posters on this forum forget that this forum is designed to inform the casino industry. It is run by a consultant and linked to other casino risk consultants as well.

Regarding the comments by Superrick: I think he's trying to play both sides as part of an unsuccessful disinformation campaign. Regarding what, well, I'm not really sure. I don't think he knows either.


-Keyser
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April 1st, 2013 at 12:06:44 PM permalink
Quote: Keyser



I honestly don't see anything wrong with your promoting.

-Keyser



I agree. We don't have have enough real professionals around
here, I welcome somebody like Frank. Its great to have somebody
who really knows what they're doing and has been in the public
eye to prove it. I'm sure he posts mostly for his own edification,
it keeps your mind on what you're doing and doesn't let it stray.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
AlanMendelson
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April 1st, 2013 at 12:15:21 PM permalink
I have absolutely no problem with Frank promoting his books, articles, website, movies, or any other venture.

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Alan Mendelson
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DeMango
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April 1st, 2013 at 1:10:57 PM permalink
Quote: FrankScoblete

I am always promoting new books..... Coming here (at first) was just to get the experience of various message boards. I'd write some stuff, see the level of discussion, then I would include them in a chapter I am writing for a new book (not due at my publisher until November 1st) where I rate the site.
Frank



Really? Will we see you at the REAL dice boards? Heavy's? MP's? LittleJoes? Selling your "my way or the highway" methods? Parading your fictional characters?
Employing sock puppets to agree with you? In the immortal words of John McEnroe; "You can't be serious!"
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FrankScoblete
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April 1st, 2013 at 3:19:00 PM permalink
DeMango, I asked Heavy to be on his site and I was told "no." I can send you privately his emails. The other sites? Just give me their urls and I will ask to be put on. I also asked about a week ago to be put on the Charlie 009's (?) site but have not heard from him. Send me any urls you can and I will gladly join the sites if they will let me.

I do want to see the length and breath of gambling message boards. So you might be able to help me.
Ahigh
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April 1st, 2013 at 3:32:06 PM permalink
Quote: FrankScoblete

DeMango, I asked Heavy to be on his site and I was told "no." I can send you privately his emails. The other sites? Just give me their urls and I will ask to be put on. I also asked about a week ago to be put on the Charlie 009's (?) site but have not heard from him. Send me any urls you can and I will gladly join the sites if they will let me.

I do want to see the length and breath of gambling message boards. So you might be able to help me.



http://forum.goodshooter.com

You're welcome to join there.

I also list all the other forums I know of from my site.
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April 1st, 2013 at 3:39:44 PM permalink
Please, nobody create any new threads about dice influence. There are already about 20 active threads on the topic.
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nezbit
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April 1st, 2013 at 3:55:26 PM permalink
well if you can control the dice wouldnt it be a good bet wizard?


LOL at 14 to 1 vote. Guess frank had to vote for himself.
Ahigh
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April 1st, 2013 at 3:58:26 PM permalink
Who'da thunk it'd be someone besides me to get the smack down laid on him for too much noise on craps?
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nezbit
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:03:15 PM permalink
yeah dice control is a far fetch. I would like to see a documented trial vs 100 other people and if he can place in the top 60-70% consistently i will believe.

what number would make you believe?
Ahigh
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:04:19 PM permalink
You got a lot of reading to do. I know you just joined, but there's discussions going back for almost 6 months at least just from me.
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nezbit
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:06:13 PM permalink
so give me the cliffs on what you think about it and why
Boz
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:10:22 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Please, nobody create any new threads about dice influence. There are already about 20 active threads on the topic.



THANK YOU!
mdh
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:17:15 PM permalink
Quote: Ahigh

Who'da thunk it'd be someone besides me to get the smack down laid on him for too much noise on craps?

I knew it...I knew it...You are mellowing lol.
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April 1st, 2013 at 4:47:13 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Please, nobody create any new threads about dice influence. There are already about 20 active threads on the topic.



The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
SanchoPanza
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April 1st, 2013 at 5:49:39 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Please, nobody create any new threads about dice influence. There are already about 20 active threads on the topic.


Control of the board is the first step on the way to control of the dice.
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April 1st, 2013 at 6:53:29 PM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Control of the board is the first step on the way to control of the dice.



I think I am going to prohibit new threads about dice influence for a while, starting with this one. Any new threads on the topic will be closed off.
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