Worst plays you've ever witnessed
Quote: WongBoGambit and monkey...you know there is a private message feature
So that the rest of the adults don't have to listen to you two argue like schoolgirls..
Just sayin...
Truth is, I don't care about someone who's life is so meaningless they have to follow posters around on message boards trying to be the internet tough guy, possibly out necessity for other failures in life.
But a jaded troll knows no restraint(see THAT is a troll, not what you accuse) and will continue to follow posts and comment, when it has nothing to do with them.
But for the sake of civility, I will let the actual troll find a NEW subject by just ignoring them.
One slight problem is other people doubling down face-down, have to keep that in mind before the dealer clears the table and make sure not to miss it.
One time a guy didn't even care, because the dealer busted, and said "it don't matter, PAY ME!" To which I slyly said, let's see it anyway! The dealer obliged.
Just how sly were you about it? This seems to me like it would be a red flag that you're counting.Quote: Gambit55One time a guy didn't even care, because the dealer busted, and said "it don't matter, PAY ME!" To which I slyly said, let's see it anyway! The dealer obliged.
I am trying to read a thread with a title that interests me.
I am here to read about bad plays.
I cannot help it if the thread is hijacked by people with a pathological need to have the last word/ snarliest comment.
I still don't see why you can't flame each other in private.
Quote: WongBoFollowing posts and comments? Trolling?
I still don't see why you can't flame each other in private.
Then how else would Monkey get attention?
Notice how all you said was "stop embarrassing yourselves," and he turned it into a bashing saga against you?
You were wise enough to not take the bait, "I got taken, and now have to deal with an angry dealer!"
Which is like being ID'd by the oldest security guard!
Quote: DJTeddyBearJust how sly were you about it? This seems to me like it would be a red flag that you're counting.
Shouldn't have had to be sly or even say anything at all. Even on a hand that can't have busted vs a dealer hand that did bust it's still standard procedure to show the outcome to the camera. That, and all the cards need to go into the discard tray facing the same direction, so keeping it hidden would just be more work that isn't necessary.
It's also not usually a big deal to ask to see a double down card that's been requested face down, unless of course you're playing at a table where face down is the norm and the double down card is tucked. So, when others ask I'll usually just flash the card to that person and if I get a glimpse and it's going to give the player 21 I'll ask them, "Is he going to be happy?"
Suddenly Joe seroius rolls up. He sits down at third base and buys in for $60 without saying a word. The first hand I have 4,3 against dealer's 8. I pull a 5,6 for 18. Joe suddenly sticks fingers in front of me, points to the cards and lectures "Man, you should have doubled that!". Joe serious then stands on his 10,6.
Dealer flips a six, then draws a five to 19. I refrain from pointing out that, had he made the right play, he'd have made 21. His money, his cards, his loss. However, I think I let out a little snigger which I'm sure went right over his head.
Next hand my friend the $5-dollar-flat-better is dealt a 2,2 against a 5. I'm sure he meant to split, but hit the Double Down button by mistake - and pulls another 2. Almost everyone at the table busts out laughing, with the guy who doubled down to a 6 laughing loudest.
But not Joe Serious. He ERUPTS and screams out "ARE YOU FU(KING SERIOUS?? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???" I don't even remember how the hand finished, all I remember is Joe cashing out and storming off in disgust.
The dealer clearly looks uncomfortable after this but ignores him and keeps going. The pit poss, fortunately for the player, wasn't within earshot.
Quote: LlewNot exactly a dumb play, but definitely a dumb move: playing at the MGM Grand last week at $50+/hand, young Korean guy is having a rough losing streak, upping his bets and getting clobbered. Finally, after yet another loss, he says "I'm supposed to be winning! This shoe is loaded with big cards!"
The dealer clearly looks uncomfortable after this but ignores him and keeps going. The pit poss, fortunately for the player, wasn't within earshot.
I feel that guy's pain. I've gotten my share of back offs while being in that exact position. Maybe it's my imagination but some bosses seem to take extra pleasure in that.
about 4 years ago when I first discovered blackjack, I stumbled on an online casino with early surrender blackjack, I started a spreadsheet on the game and was developing a basic strategy chart that included surrenders.
I had two accounts at the casino a practice and real money account.
I lost a ton of money on my practice account and soon it was roughly the same balance as in my real money account.
One day I logged in to take stats down on a chart but logged into my real money account on mistake, started betting wildly and made a quick 100% unplanned $600 profit. I never figured it out until I logged in again the next time and found all sorts of money in my account! My Biggest Win EVER
The man lost with his soft twelve, by the way, when the dealer made seventeen. Magical!
Quote: LlewNot exactly a dumb play, but definitely a dumb move: playing at the MGM Grand last week at $50+/hand, young Korean guy is having a rough losing streak, upping his bets and getting clobbered. Finally, after yet another loss, he says "I'm supposed to be winning! This shoe is loaded with big cards!"
The dealer clearly looks uncomfortable after this but ignores him and keeps going. The pit poss, fortunately for the player, wasn't within earshot.
Yea, had a similar thing happen to me.
Count was +11, and I had 8-3 against a dealer 6.
So I doubled, got a 9 and the dealer turns up a 9 and catches.... a 6!
Could not believe that happened and started muttering to myself "Plus 11 and he catches 6..."
He didn't notice what I said, but I was so surprised it happened like that, I couldn't help blurt out how he caught a lucky 6!
Quote: BigJerOne bad play was actually done by myself. A weeks ago I was playing and my new contacts hadn't quite yet adjusted so I had misread some cards. Anyways to make a long story short I wound up DD on a hard 13! Drew a ten.
8 and a 5? thought the 5 was a 3?
Quote: rudeboyoi8 and a 5? thought the 5 was a 3?
It happens after long sessions, the cards start to get blurry or you lose focus and forget what the dealer has.
Had 2-3 against a dealer 3, instinctively kept doing the Hit Me motion, and pulled a ten first. Either forgot the dealer had a 3 or thought it was an 8 and took another 10!
Looked up at his hand and went..."shit, somebody wake me up!"
Dealer turns up a 2... catches a 5.... gets another 5 and then a BUST card!
I chuckled and said "Saved the table with that dumb move!"
But yea, it happens you start to lose sight of the cards sometimes.
Quote: rudeboyoi8 and a 5? thought the 5 was a 3?
No I was just getting used to my new contacts and misread the cards.
So of course he pushed the hand when he would have won and said "yeah, I know it was unorthodox, but that's why they call it gambling." Yeesh.
A very drunk guy had 18 against the dealer 9. He asked to hit, the dealer asked him twice if he was sure.
Player got a 2 for a total of 20.
Dealer had a face card for 19.
All I could do was laugh and order another drink. Guy did not even know what he had managed to pull off.
Quote: 10DollarBriToday I saw a guy double down with a hard 5 and and asked for his card to be dealt face down. :)
Could he have been hole-carding?
Quote: Mission146Could he have been hole-carding?
No, he was just an idiot. He managed to lose $1300 at a $10 table in about an hour. Definitely not an AP.
Quote: 10DollarBriNo, he was just an idiot. He managed to lose $1300 at a $10 table in about an hour. Definitely not an AP.
Yea, I see a couple of these "geniuses" who decide to double on low point totals of 5-8 because "the dealer has Fif/Four/Six-teen under there and he'll bust!!"
Until the dealer turns up a low hole card and then the "That's why they call it gambling" line comes out!
He said "The book says don't split unless dealer has 4 or 5, and if you hit you will mess up the flow of the cards, so I gotta stand!"
As a bonus, this "genius" shared his knowledge for the next hour telling everyone how to play their hands.
I was dealing, and when it got to my card, the card in the shoe was upside down, so everyone saw the 7 of diamonds , which should have been my hole card..I called my Pit Boss over, and what he told me to do is to flip my other card up, which was a Jack, and everyone plays their hand knowing that i have 17.
First guy has 18, so he knows he won and he stays, second guy has a 13, hits and busts..Now back to the lady..she has 12..she wants to stay..Everyone at the table is yelling at her that she needs to hit because she has a 12 i have a 17..so she is like "FINE" and hits..2, she now has 14.."i want to stay" Everyone continues to yell at her..i am trying to keep a straight face (gotta stay professional lol)..So she finally decides to hits, and gets a 10, so she busts..she then says "Great, Now you guys made me lose!" She was upset about it for a pretty long time
Also, in case you were wondering..they were both sober.
Quote: Givag327I had a lady and her boyfriend come to my table..they were in her 30's..and she mentioned she was new at the game..so we taught her how to play..and after an hour or so, she was getting it..well that's what i thought..
I was dealing, and when it got to my card, the card in the shoe was upside down, so everyone saw the 7 of diamonds , which should have been my hole card..I called my Pit Boss over, and what he told me to do is to flip my other card up, which was a Jack, and everyone plays their hand knowing that i have 17.
First guy has 18, so he knows he won and he stays, second guy has a 13, hits and busts..Now back to the lady..she has 12..she wants to stay..Everyone at the table is yelling at her that she needs to hit because she has a 12 i have a 17..so she is like "FINE" and hits..2, she now has 14.."i want to stay" Everyone continues to yell at her..i am trying to keep a straight face (gotta stay professional lol)..So she finally decides to hits, and gets a 10, so she busts..she then says "Great, Now you guys made me lose!" She was upset about it for a pretty long time
Also, in case you were wondering..they were both sober.
Just cause they weren't drinking doesn't mean they were sober..
Quote: ewjones080Just cause they weren't drinking doesn't mean they were sober..
4 in the afternoon, they have been playing for well over an hour and drinking water. Unless they are very good masking their drunkness, they were sober
The shoe was slightly positive and and when I waived off a pair of 9s against a 7 he jumped up from his chair and screamed for the dealer to wait. He then took me to school telling me that I was supposed to split and if I didn't follow the chart I would never win and would make the table lose. He was becoming a little hostile and the wife was egging him on.
After a little back and forth he shoved the chart in my face and there it was just like he said. The letter s in a yellow box, s for split. It took a while but it finally dawned on him when I asked him what all those green boxes with the letter p were for. :-)
For our members who don't play blackjack the s stands for stand.
http://www.pokertube.com/videos/phil-ivey-mucks-his-wining-flush-hand-at-wsop-me/
My own personal bad bet was betting 350 to win 10 bucks at the roulette table. I lost when the 15th consecutive non 2nd 12 number came in.
Quote: KellynbnfSince he thought the "s" meant split, did he ever split 10's?
Ha ha. I "split" when the shoe finished. Didn't need the attention that he caused.
Throw out a hard 21 in pitch in disgust because I had too many cards and thought I busted. (Other players caught it.)
Not playing the sidebet at Fortune Pai Gow. Two straight flushes in the span of an hour...
Not playing the Royal Match sidebet-- doublehanding, I missed two of the big wins, with suited QK AND dealer suited QK. On the same hand. 1000$ each, for 1$.
I guess the dumbest blackjack play was at the Riviera. A friend and I were playing, I was winning lots of money, he wasn't. He was at 3rd base, the cards were great. I made a large bet, like 475 and got 20. The friend had 15, dealer shows a 6. Friend thought about it, and he knew BS as we had been playing at home for over a year, took a hit for 25, dealer pulls a 5 for 21.
Last year when I spoke to him about it, 20 years later, he said that it was his money and it was important to him. I replied if your money was so important why would you not play the best strategy?
10 a few years later just after my 1st big winning streak we went to Par-A-Dice boat in Peoria. I won 1500 really quick and went out and sat on the deck. He came out to barrow money. I felt obliged since he loaned me 500 back at the Riviera which I ended up paying back within minutes. Because I felt like I didn't reach my goal, I sat at a table with him again and he gave me my money back and I ended up losing 2750 instead of getting up and going back out to sit on the deck.
Bad play 1. Playing blackjack with that guy after the burn in the early 90's has to be the dumbest thing I've done at the blackjack table. I'm sorry to say that as he was a best friend at some point in my life, but, he has a green complex and jealousy between friends winning and losing just doesn't work. You chose your set you sit in it.
Bad Play 2. Not getting up from the table when you're distracted or uncomfortable.
First base had a $50 bet and a hard twenty.
He pushed out another $50 and said "double".
Twice I asked (loudly) if he was sure he wanted another card on 20.
The second time he was a little short with his response, so I yelled out "Doubling down on hard 20" loud enough for the whole pit to hear (you have to alert your supe to strange events).
He left the table quietly after making his 30.
He didnt know that meant he had to take another card - he thought you could up your bet if you liked your cards.
Surely thats what this guy thought?
Quote: NostronI was playing at a charity event saturday night and the guy at 3rd base wanted to double on hard 20.
He didnt know that meant he had to take another card - he thought you could up your bet if you liked your cards.
Surely thats what this guy thought?
A couple of weekends ago when I was working relief on four blackjack tables, I had a guy playing heads-up against me, and I dealt him a hard 19 against a face card. He took out his chips to double down - and my supervisor looked at him and asked, "Are you serious?" He replied that he was, in fact, serious. He knew what he was doing and he knew he was going to get another card. He still did it.
He got a face card and busted. I had to restrain myself from laughing/choking him/facepalming at the same time.
No one I have dealt to has even approached that level of stupid, although I do see my share of it at the craps table with people doing put bets. Most people who do put bets are teachable and have no idea that doing a place bet is much better, i.e. someone walks up when the point is 4 and puts down a pass line bet for $10. Before the dice roll, I tell him, "If you place the point, you can win more for the same bet." Typically, the response is, "OK," I move it to the back line and announce that the point is placed for $10. If the shooters throws a 7, no harm, no foul, but if the shooter makes the point, the player is pleasantly surprised to get $18 instead of $10 (along with the right to pick up the bet.)
However, I do see the occasional player who fights back when told this and insists on having the bet on the pass line, even declaring, "I just want my ten dollars" when offered the shot at more for the same bet. This is completely ridiculous, of course, but at worst it's a 33.3% shot at even money versus an 84.5% chance of busting at double your bet.
Two of them won, and the third she goaded into it to get rid of him because he was being a pompous know-it-all jerk.
Things were going well enough at the table, as me and the other player were raking up some Green towers at the $25 smoking table.
That is until we were interrupted by... the Blue Meanie!!
First hand out the gate, Blue Meanie has Hard 14 against dealer 3... "Hit me!" Pulls a Jack, dealer turns up 9 and catches a 7!
Few hands later the same shoe, dealer has 5 showing. Blue Meanie has Hard 15 and I do as well. I'm literally waving off the 15 as hard as I can as close to his cards as humanly possible hoping he will get the message. He lifts his pudgy hand as to signal "Stand" and the dealer turns to me and I'm still waving off the Fifteen(s). Fatso says "Wait... Hit me!" Gets a 9! Dealer has a Ten, gets an Ace, then a 5!
After me and the guy at 3rd base look at each other in disbelief. I start making jokes like "Guess they'll let in anyone into a casino!" or "Remember when we were winning, ya know before the sun got blocked by the full moon?"
The very next hand, dealer has an Ace. Versus my 19 and tubby's A-2. Dealer asks insurance, I decline (figuring if he beats me with Blackjack, it's a sign to go!) Nobody home. And on to the "Move of the Day" from the Blue Meanie!
He goes "What's that 13?" Dealers says "3 or 13" Meanie proceeds to wave it off and proclaim "I'll stay on 13"
I look at him and say "You only have 3, you can't lose by taking a card."
He says "But I might take his bust card" **FACEPALM** Guy at 3rd base(who had been playing fairly well the whole time) has Hard 13 and says "I might as well stand too!"
I stand on 19, dealer flips up Another Ace and WHAM... catches an 8!
I quickly stand up and say "Good job guys, with those kind of moves, you'll keep this place running for decades!"
Quote: BedWetterBetterFatso says "Wait... Hit me!" Gets a 9! Dealer has a Ten, gets an Ace, then a 5!
I think you may be mis-remembering this particular hand. If the dealer had a ten, and drew an ace, they wouldn't be drawing for that 5 to bring them to 16.
I always love when bad players come to my blackjack table. You have to remember that as poorly as they are playing, they are just as likely to move the cards in your favor as they are to move them against you. The only person they end up hurting by playing like idiots is themselves, even if it doesn't seem like it in the short time you are at the table with them. How many idiotic moves did he make which caused you to win the hand?
Quote: BedWetterBetterThe other day at Sands, PA. Had dealt with a heavy-set, young man in a Blue shirt, who I called the Blue Meanie.
Things were going well enough at the table, as me and the other player were raking up some Green towers at the $25 smoking table.
That is until we were interrupted by... the Blue Meanie!!
First hand out the gate, Blue Meanie has Hard 14 against dealer 3... "Hit me!" Pulls a Jack, dealer turns up 9 and catches a 7!
Few hands later the same shoe, dealer has 5 showing. Blue Meanie has Hard 15 and I do as well. I'm literally waving off the 15 as hard as I can as close to his cards as humanly possible hoping he will get the message. He lifts his pudgy hand as to signal "Stand" and the dealer turns to me and I'm still waving off the Fifteen(s). Fatso says "Wait... Hit me!" Gets a 9! Dealer has a Ten, gets an Ace, then a 5!
After me and the guy at 3rd base look at each other in disbelief. I start making jokes like "Guess they'll let in anyone into a casino!" or "Remember when we were winning, ya know before the sun got blocked by the full moon?"
The very next hand, dealer has an Ace. Versus my 19 and tubby's A-2. Dealer asks insurance, I decline (figuring if he beats me with Blackjack, it's a sign to go!) Nobody home. And on to the "Move of the Day" from the Blue Meanie!
He goes "What's that 13?" Dealers says "3 or 13" Meanie proceeds to wave it off and proclaim "I'll stay on 13"
I look at him and say "You only have 3, you can't lose by taking a card."
He says "But I might take his bust card" **FACEPALM** Guy at 3rd base(who had been playing fairly well the whole time) has Hard 13 and says "I might as well stand too!"
I stand on 19, dealer flips up Another Ace and WHAM... catches an 8!
I quickly stand up and say "Good job guys, with those kind of moves, you'll keep this place running for decades!"
The guy in the blue shirt may not have made the best plays, and may not know how to play the game correctly, but it seems to me that you were being the mean one...
You were winning, this other guy sat down, and then you started losing, so you blamed him. But that's false reasoning. Ultimately, his moves don't change a thing as far as your ability to win is concerned. People are allowed to do with their money as they please; if they want to play a game incorrectly, they can, and they should be able to do it without being insulted.
Quote: duckmankillaI think you may be mis-remembering this particular hand. If the dealer had a ten, and drew an ace, they wouldn't be drawing for that 5 to bring them to 16.
I always love when bad players come to my blackjack table. You have to remember that as poorly as they are playing, they are just as likely to move the cards in your favor as they are to move them against you. The only person they end up hurting by playing like idiots is themselves, even if it doesn't seem like it in the short time you are at the table with them. How many idiotic moves did he make which caused you to win the hand?
I had to read that a couple of times myself. It looks like the dealer flipped a 10 under the 5 up.
I've said many times that without poor players the rules would deteriorate and I would make less. They are always welcome at my table as long as they don't take forever making decisions.
Quote: JVIPER88The guy in the blue shirt may not have made the best plays, and may not know how to play the game correctly, but it seems to me that you were being the mean one...
You were winning, this other guy sat down, and then you started losing, so you blamed him. But that's false reasoning. Ultimately, his moves don't change a thing as far as your ability to win is concerned. People are allowed to do with their money as they please; if they want to play a game incorrectly, they can, and they should be able to do it without being insulted.
A) He doubled down on 10 and 11 a few times, regardless of what card the Dealer was showing. So this was not his first rodeo. Or maybe he's one of those "Geniuses" who thinks every card out of the shoe is a "Monkey". Yet that same logic doesn't apply to the dealer's hole card which was in fact the final card out the same shoe?
B) If you read the text correctly, I said I made a JOKE about how this sap came in and we stopped winning. Meaning that I was KIDDING and fully understand he had no adverse affect on the cards.
Me calling him fat on the internet is no different than someone here calling him a Ploppy. It is a true statement, and fits his description. It is more accurate than "that guy", and his reasoning of "I'll take the dealer's Bust card against a dealer Ace" was so absurd. Especially after he foolishly hit stiff 14's and 15's the entire time before. It just let me know he has no idea about simple strategy and WHY you hit certain hands and why you stand on others.
P.S. - *To the other Poster** Read the part When he hit the 15 versus the 5 again, "Dealer has a Ten", obviously meant he had a Ten in the hole. Being that it is all the same context of that excerpt, it was fairly easy to deduce that.
