Kristmitchell
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December 5th, 2021 at 9:40:42 AM permalink
so cvcx says i have an edge an edge to make a whoopin 17 bucks an hour under ac rules!!
now i will i get shuffled up on? will they ask me to leave like i heard over at golden nugget?
how long do card counters live for at one property? will i go on living at ac for several years "like one card counter" and then move to vegas?
tell me the shake down already!!!

i have an edge so the mathies can't say im a loser
but what about the pit crew? banned? half shoed? asked to leave now?
OnceDear
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December 5th, 2021 at 9:54:19 AM permalink
Quote: Kristmitchell

so cvcx says i have an edge an edge to make a whoopin 17 bucks an hour under ac rules!!
now i will i get shuffled up on? will they ask me to leave like i heard over at golden nugget?
how long do card counters live for at one property? will i go on living at ac for several years "like one card counter" and then move to vegas?
tell me the shake down already!!!

i have an edge so the mathies can't say im a loser
but what about the pit crew? banned? half shoed? asked to leave now?
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What ARE you on about?
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billryan
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December 5th, 2021 at 9:56:37 AM permalink
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Mission146
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December 5th, 2021 at 9:58:10 AM permalink
Quote: Kristmitchell

so cvcx says i have an edge an edge to make a whoopin 17 bucks an hour under ac rules!!
now i will i get shuffled up on? will they ask me to leave like i heard over at golden nugget?
how long do card counters live for at one property? will i go on living at ac for several years "like one card counter" and then move to vegas?
tell me the shake down already!!!

i have an edge so the mathies can't say im a loser
but what about the pit crew? banned? half shoed? asked to leave now?
link to original post



You guys really read a lot into what us math-oriented people think, sometimes. The only thing that we care about is presenting information that is mathematically correct. The notion that, "Mathletes," consider recreational players losers or care what other people do with their own money lives largely in other peoples' minds.

WoV is one of the places where many of us gather. That being the case, yes, if someone comes on here and promotes mathematically inaccurate information, then they will often be called out. Alternatively, if someone presents an interesting or fun question, then they will usually get a good answer.

Anyway, I don't consider recreational gamblers, "Losers." Why would some of the stuff I write be for a general gambling audience? I don't consider gambling addicts, "Losers," I feel badly for them and am sorry that they lost control of what would ideally be a fun and occasional pastime.

Anyway, most of us don't consider these other people losers. I don't even think, "Ploppy," came from the math community; I believe it came from the AP community, but I'm kind of a member of both communities, so whatever...and to whatever extent, "Community," can be used. I'd prefer not to be seen as belonging to any community, but what can you do? I used to use the term, but I try to use, "Recreational gambler," now and have for quite some time.

Who the hell am I to judge anyone? I met someone at the casino a few days ago who is an ambulance driver. Do you think that I think he's a, "Loser?" He transports people to the hospital in a timely fashion so that they don't die...I write about gambling and do part-time advantage play...his profession is 10x more socially useful than the stuff I do and you think I think of him as a, "Loser," because he makes the wrong decisions when he plays (very bad paytable) Ultimate X?

My advice to you is not to ascribe thoughts to other people unless they have directly stated those thoughts. You know that these forums and what, "Mathies," supposedly think aren't the whole world, right---especially when most of us don't even think what you said.

Anyway, I don't know what will happen. You will likely be shuffled up on or flat bet, sooner or later, especially if you're successful and most especially if you become known to the property. If your suggestion is that $17/hour isn't good value, then I will only say there are much more profitable things to do in AC if you are well-bankrolled.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
kewlj
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December 5th, 2021 at 10:37:08 AM permalink
Quote: Kristmitchell

so cvcx says i have an edge an edge to make a whoopin 17 bucks an hour under ac rules!!
now i will i get shuffled up on? will they ask me to leave like i heard over at golden nugget?
how long do card counters live for at one property? will i go on living at ac for several years "like one card counter" and then move to vegas?
tell me the shake down already!!!

i have an edge so the mathies can't say im a loser
but what about the pit crew? banned? half shoed? asked to leave now?



"Play AC for several years and then move to Las Vegas"? Geez, sounds familiar. I know someone who did that. :/

My time in AC was 2004-2009. 5 and a half years. AC was a difficult play then with 8 decks and mediocre 75% penetration and I hear it has only gotten worse and SWEATIER. The thing about my time there was the first 3 years were very low stakes, red chip play, while I tried to build my very small bankroll. It is very difficult to do at those stakes and that is why it took so long. Eventually you hit a good positive run above expectation and I was able to bump up just a bit (year 4) and a little more (year 5) to where I was playing Green to light black and then they no longer tolerated me the way they did for a few years when I was playing red.

I doubt what I did in AC, learning how to beat the game and building on my small bankroll can be done anymore because I am told they are now very sweaty even to low limit players and one place (the best place in the city) won't let anyone play unrated.

Here is my take away on your game: If you are winning in AC, even below expectation, you are doing well. It really is a tough game to beat. BUT, if you can win in AC, you can win anywhere. So put that feather in your cap. :)
lilredrooster
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December 5th, 2021 at 12:27:44 PM permalink
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I too had a nice run in A.C. for 6 years in the 90s.

I loved A.C._______

the boardwalk, cheesy as it may be, the ocean, the Italian pizza and subs, the strip clubs

I really kind of miss it - a lot


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Mission146
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December 5th, 2021 at 12:48:35 PM permalink
I also enjoy AC, but would stop short of, "Love." I think the Boardwalk is fun and everything is cheap, so you can't beat that. I also like the ocean, even though the beach is kind of dirty, and wouldn't know anything about the strip clubs.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219

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