Pookky
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February 9th, 2021 at 5:18:25 PM permalink
Does anyone know what states CANNOT back off a person from playing blackjack?

All I do is flat bet.
I play perfect basic strategy with a cheat sheet.
I’ve gotten lucky over the last year and unfortunately it’s come to a head and I’ve been backed off of playing BJ at a few properties in Vegas.
kewlj
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February 9th, 2021 at 5:59:46 PM permalink
Quote: Pookky

Does anyone know what states CANNOT back off a person from playing blackjack?

All I do is flat bet.
I play perfect basic strategy with a cheat sheet.
I’ve gotten lucky over the last year and unfortunately it’s come to a head and I’ve been backed off of playing BJ at a few properties in Vegas.



States that can't backoff, or bar card counters are New Jersey (Atlantic City) and one other state as far as I know. I think it might be Missouri, although I have never played there. Maybe someone can correct me if I am wrong. I believe that is it. Just the two.

So, if you are flat betting, you aren't playing with an advantage and they certainly shouldn't be backing you off. It is the spreading of bets that is the big tell. AND using basic strategy cards, what you call cheat sheets, is allowed. They sell them in most casino gift shops. I mean just the fact that you are using that should be an indication you aren't any kind of threat.

But that said, there are some really sweaty casinos, that back off players that just randomly win, even though they aren't playing a winning game. In Las Vegas, El Cortez and Southpoint are two such casinos. There are others as well that are just overly paranoid. Can I ask what casinos backed you off? I mean if they are backing you off when you are not even spreading, then they just back off almost everyone so, naming the casino isn't going to identify you or anything.
mcallister3200
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February 9th, 2021 at 6:13:38 PM permalink
The other state is Missouri. They will just half-shoe, or deal one deck out of six, or change the table limits so the min and max bet are pretty much a flat bet. Or on double deck they may deal two rounds and shuffle.

Louisiana also passed a law several years ago but it is completely ignored and there is no enforcement, in cases where violations have been reported Louisiana law officers have stated it’s a civil matter and they’re not required to enforce it.
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February 9th, 2021 at 6:16:44 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

The other state is Missouri. They will just half-shoe, or deal one deck out of six, or change the table limits so the min and max bet are pretty much a flat bet. Louisiana also passed a law several years ago but it is completely ignored and there is no enforcement, in cases where violations have been reported Louisiana law officers have stated it’s a civil matter and they’re not required to enforce it.


Louisiana cops are so corrupt, it wasn’t a civil matter when they are asking for your id so they can hand it over to the casino.
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SOOPOO
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February 9th, 2021 at 6:49:28 PM permalink
Quote: Pookky

Does anyone know what states CANNOT back off a person from playing blackjack?

All I do is flat bet.
I play perfect basic strategy with a cheat sheet.
I’ve gotten lucky over the last year and unfortunately it’s come to a head and I’ve been backed off of playing BJ at a few properties in Vegas.



Few!? One is one. Couple is two. ‘Few’ is 3 at least. You are saying you have been ‘backed off’ from 3 separate Las Vegas casinos for playing Blackjack without altering your bet size?

Which casinos? What did the guy backing you off actually say? What $ amount were you flat betting? Do you play rated?

There has got to be more to this story.....
mcallister3200
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February 9th, 2021 at 7:07:18 PM permalink
I am entirely unsurprised. And if it's multiple in a chain they're just doing it because the other guy did.
AxelWolf
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February 9th, 2021 at 7:09:23 PM permalink
I am wondering if he/she shares a common name and birthdate with someone who has been tagged .
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Pookky
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February 9th, 2021 at 7:27:47 PM permalink
Wynn
All Caesar properties in Vegas.

I flat bet table max, that’s all I do.

Was literally told:
“table games made the call, that you were perfect BJ strategy player and no real advantage to the casino on that game.”
unJon
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February 9th, 2021 at 7:52:33 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Few!? One is one. Couple is two. ‘Few’ is 3 at least. You are saying you have been ‘backed off’ from 3 separate Las Vegas casinos for playing Blackjack without altering your bet size?

Which casinos? What did the guy backing you off actually say? What $ amount were you flat betting? Do you play rated?

There has got to be more to this story.....



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February 9th, 2021 at 8:09:09 PM permalink
Pooky is not a troll 100% , I've known Pooky for years. The question itself doesn't quite make sense to me either, I'd start with making sure the terms used are being used properly.
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