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tringlomane
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Gialmere
February 6th, 2019 at 4:28:41 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

Gratz and good luck to Switch especially for the rarity of adding to a game without it costing the players more money to get in on the action. However, I can't see a casino giving players something without a catch so....

...I would assume this will be the norm for the game.



Yeah. How often on average does a dealer bust with a 22? And since the odds are basically 50/50 that the bonus will even give money, how many hands on average will you have to play in order to receive an actual payoff?



You should see a "winning" lucky cat roll a couple of times an hour on average.
tringlomane
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February 6th, 2019 at 4:30:31 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I'm planning to stop by around 4:30 and hope to see some WoV members. I just did an analysis of the game. My page on this game still isn't done, but here is what I have so far: Lucky Cat Blackjack.

BTW, I hear they use pay table 2 (the stingy one) at the Golden Nugget, but do pay 3 to 2 on blackjack.



The stingy paytable? Ouch. I wonder if strip casinos will be extra greedy and offer 6 to 5 and payable 2. I'd hope not. :(

I semi-predicted how the game would work on the other forum I post at today with the same exact mechanism of dice with one lucky cat face and 5 blank faces, but made an example of only 3 lucky dice that paid 2, 3, and 8 to 1 respectively and pushed with all blanks. That added about 0.42% to the house edge before strategy changes. I thought that was fair. Paytable 2... not so much. :(

One nice thing about this mechanism from the casino's perspective is that you could fine tune the house edge very well with different "lucky cat" paytables.

Thanks for the write-up! Hope you get lucky and get a 4 lucky cat roll tonight! That might hurt Geoff though...lol
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February 6th, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM permalink
The idea is cool, but the math hurts me.
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February 6th, 2019 at 9:34:47 PM permalink
So if I bet $500 on my bj hand , get a split , stay alive , the dealer busts with 22, then four cats show up , boom I win $100,000
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February 6th, 2019 at 10:33:40 PM permalink
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So if I bet $500 on my bj hand , get a split , stay alive , the dealer busts with 22, then four cats show up , boom I win $100,000



Plus $1,000 for your two bets!
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February 7th, 2019 at 4:54:56 AM permalink
I don't get the Posters saying there is a potential you won't get paid a cent if the Dealer has 22. Everytime the Dealer busts you win money, right? I USED to have a Blackjack App so I was a little more keen on how it worked but got rid of that app a long time ago, so.....;)
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February 7th, 2019 at 8:01:45 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

So if I bet $500 on my bj hand , get a split , stay alive , the dealer busts with 22, then four cats show up , boom I win $100,000



On pay table 1, yes. On the Golden Nugget pay table 2, it would be $1,000 * 50 = $50,000.
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February 7th, 2019 at 8:03:08 AM permalink
Quote: smoothgrh

Plus $1,000 for your two bets!



That $1,000 is just getting your own money back. The net win is $50,000 on pay table 2.
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February 7th, 2019 at 8:25:34 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

On pay table 1, yes. On the Golden Nugget pay table 2, it would be $1,000 * 50 = $50,000.



This seems like the type of wager where casinos set a max aggregate table payout per hand , such as I see on the Lucky Ladies side bet, or the let it ride progressive

They arenít going to want a table full of players betting black and purple chips on their hands, with a side bet where everyone winning is correlated and possibly having to pay out a quarter million dollars. Especially when the bonus required no additional wager beyond the normal bj bet
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February 7th, 2019 at 10:57:44 AM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I don't get the Posters saying there is a potential you won't get paid a cent if the Dealer has 22. Everytime the Dealer busts you win money, right? I USED to have a Blackjack App so I was a little more keen on how it worked but got rid of that app a long time ago, so.....;)



Geoff Hall games all have the catch that all hands push on Dealer total of 22
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