aceK
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August 10th, 2017 at 2:34:38 PM permalink
I have heard to break your bankroll into three different sessions in playing blackjack. I live in Kentucky and there are no local casinos. I have to travel to NC, Ohio, or IN to play blackjack at a casino. There is only one $5 table or $10 table; so do you play your bankroll with a total stop loss of 50% with win rate of 40% at one session or save up to move into the $25 table in order to break it down into the three sessions.
LostWages
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August 10th, 2017 at 3:49:51 PM permalink
Quote: aceK

I have heard to break your bankroll into three different sessions in playing blackjack. I live in Kentucky and there are no local casinos. I have to travel to NC, Ohio, or IN to play blackjack at a casino. There is only one $5 table or $10 table; so do you play your bankroll with a total stop loss of 50% with win rate of 40% at one session or save up to move into the $25 table in order to break it down into the three sessions.

Welcome to the forum, aceK!

Perhaps the readers can give you a more informed reply if you tell us

- a range of your bankroll
- are you playing 3:2 or 6:5 BJ?
- SD, DD, or multi-deck BJ?
- a rough idea of HE, heat, other table games besides BJ?

Or, consider reading the 3 articles of Romes|

http://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-in-Blackjack/

http://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-In-Blackjack-2/

http://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-In-Blackjack-3/

Good luck!
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aceK
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August 10th, 2017 at 4:00:26 PM permalink
I'm just starting to make it a little more then just a few trips a qtr. I would like to do it more often.

bankroll of $500 to $1000
3:2
8 decks
80% pen
split any up to 4 times except aces one time
double down after split

I have the basic memorized and starting to learn how to count using hi/low

trying a progressive betting system win one pull then half of the winning hand for the next bet "up and pull"

they have 5, 10, 15, 25, and high roller 50 min bets
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August 10th, 2017 at 4:24:37 PM permalink
Lose the progressive betting system, it's worse than useless. Why are you any more likely to win the second bet than the first one? Short answer- you are not, so why have more money out there? Learn an easy count that can be expanded as you get more proficient with it. I personally think KISS is the easiest to learn, but its a personal choice. Is there any difference in the rules between the $5 and $25 table? Betting $25 or more a hand with a bankroll of $500 is ,while not exactly suicidal, not good for your bankrolls long term health. It's akin to smoking two packs of cigarettes a day. It will stunt your bankrolls growth.
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August 10th, 2017 at 4:34:06 PM permalink
there is no difference in the $5 and $25 tables

the KISS system starts with a -16 count for 8 deck, correct, -2 per deck

the KISS system has blk 2 and 4 - 6 as +1 and J, Q, K as -1
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billryan
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August 10th, 2017 at 5:40:30 PM permalink
Here is a link. I think it'sallowed, if not I'm sure someone will have it removed.
https://www.gamblingsites.org/casino/blackjack/card-counting/kiss/

It starts simple and as you get comfortable, you add more cards to it.
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aceK
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August 10th, 2017 at 5:43:38 PM permalink
thank you

I guess you will bet the min until +2 then up bet 5 if you are doing 1 - 5 correct
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August 10th, 2017 at 6:00:41 PM permalink
You can get a cheap copy of Blackjack Bluebook on Amazon. It's a great read and has some other plays you will never think of on your own. Best of luck.
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August 10th, 2017 at 8:24:33 PM permalink
Quote: aceK

I'm just starting to make it a little more then just a few trips a qtr. I would like to do it more often.

bankroll of $500 to $1000
3:2
8 decks
80% pen
split any up to 4 times except aces one time
double down after split

I have the basic memorized and starting to learn how to count using hi/low

trying a progressive betting system win one pull then half of the winning hand for the next bet "up and pull"

they have 5, 10, 15, 25, and high roller 50 min bets



aceK,

See what I mean? Now that you've provided a little more info about your game, some of the experienced folk like billryan are more likely to leave you with some pearls of wisdom.

It would still help to know if your casino(s) have any heat, or if you can get the HE (house edge). This could affect how you want to spread your bet and ramp.

I don't have a link to the HE outside of Las Vegas, but here's a link to the house edge calculator on the WoV website. I came up with a HE of 0.64493 for the game you described. You can see from the calculator how each condition changes the edge in (or against) your favor.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/blackjack/calculator/

Only you can determine what the heat is like at your casino, but here's a link to a "heat map" from qfit, another one of the experienced players. Click on the states you visit to compare relative "heat"!

https://www.qfit.com/maps.shtml

I'm still a novice at this myself, but here's what I calculated for your HE below. I'll leave you to absorb this info, and maybe some folk will post and/or correct what I've added so far.

I really think you'll benefit from reading Romes's articles!

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August 11th, 2017 at 3:24:27 AM permalink
Quote: aceK

I have heard

cue alarm bells, OP is listening to random gamblers? If so, probability of bad advice is extremely high

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to break your bankroll into three different sessions in playing blackjack...

For the bankroll aspect of your question, I have only heard* of the Kelly Criterion. Breaking up the bankroll does not come up at all and probably is just some dumb crap that comes out of the mouths of other gamblers and dealers.

You've made the right move by coming here where, depending on your own ability to screen out good from bad advice, you can be put on the right track. Check out the link.

https://wizardofodds.com/gambling/kelly-criterion/

*but I mean from experts like the Wizard !!
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