AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 8:50:17 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

That's what I was thinking too. Casinos couldn't care less if a guy tells his girlfriend when to hit/stand. OP must have seen one too many gambling movies. :)

+1

I can defiantly see why she was confused on the signal, he confused an ACE with a 6
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:07:15 AM permalink
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Why all the hand signals? That would look sneaky for sure. Why not just sit next to her and say hit or stand?

Who said anything about hand signals? The signals I used for raising/lowering bets and deviating from basic strategy were undetectable.

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December 17th, 2013 at 9:09:35 AM permalink
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Quote: AxelWolf

Why all the hand signals? That would look sneaky for sure. Why not just sit next to her and say hit or stand?

Who said anything about hand signals? The signals I used for raising/lowering bets and deviating from basic strategy were undetectable.

Obviously they were undetectable, that's why she hit hard 17.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Greasyjohn
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:11:41 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

+1

I can defiantly see why she was confused on the signal, he confused an ACE with a 6



I didn't confuse an ace with a six, I made a mistake in my post ( and it was a 5 not a 6. Are you confusing a 6 for a 5, or did you just make a mistake?).
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:12:53 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Once, about 10 years ago, I was playing blackjack with my then-girlfriend at the California Club in Vegas. She always played in front of me and took signals from me to deviate from basic strategy ( ie., hit when you should stand, not double when you should double, etc). So the true count is -6 (H17) and I see she has a hard 17 vs. dealer up-card of ace. I signal her, she hits, and right when the card hits the felt I say (NO!). Itís nice to see that the boyfriend wants to stop her from hitting a hard 17 even though itís too late and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!! is staring at us all. Well, her (bad) play saved the table ( and I looked like James Bond to her). Probably my proudest AP moment.



I like these stories. This is the Hawaiian joint with low limits and poor rules.

How many decks, what was her base bet and max bet? What was she betting on that hand? What count were you using? Did the dealer flash the 3 or one of his cards or did you use an index play that I'm not familiar with? Why the California?

My inquiring mind wants to know.
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:16:11 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

I didn't confuse an ace with a six, I made a mistake in my post.

Yet you had time to proof read it. I can only imagine how many mistakes out of confusion would be made in the heat of the moment.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:17:49 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Who said anything about hand signals?

Umm... you did?

Quote: Greasyjohn

I signal her, she hits,.

It sounds You indicated for her to hit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:18:42 AM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:27:57 AM permalink
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I like these stories. This is the Hawaiian joint with low limits and poor rules.

How many decks, what was her base bet and max bet? What was she betting on that hand? What count were you using? Did the dealer flash the 3 or one of his cards or did you use an index play that I'm not familiar with? Why the California?

My inquiring mind wants to know.



I only recall some of the details. Back then I played almost exclusively single-deck. I use Hi-Opt 1 with an ace side count and a 1-4 spread and usually opened for 2 units. The dealer didn't flash, it was just the best (lose less) play. She has played quarters before but I believe she was betting $10 - $40 at the time.
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December 17th, 2013 at 9:34:09 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I don't think that there is any count which dictates you hit any hard 17. That said, I've done it three times all against a ten up in high negative counts while heads up. Even though it was a bad play, two of the three I turned losers into winners and the other time I busted but would have lost had I stayed anyway.

Edit. I think 17 vs A at -4TC becomes a hit. I'll have to recheck.



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