Greasyjohn
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:15:13 PM permalink
Once, about 10 years ago, I was playing blackjack with my then-girlfriend at the California casino in Vegas. She always played in front of me and took signals from me to deviate from basic strategy ( ie., hit when you should stand, not double when you should double, etc). So the true count is -6 (H17) and I see she has a hard 17 vs. dealer up-card of ace. I signal her, she hits, and right when the card hits the felt I say (NO!). It’s nice to see that the boyfriend wants to stop her from hitting a hard 17 even though it’s too late and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!! is staring at us all. Well, her (bad) play saved the table ( and I looked like James Bond to her). Probably my proudest AP moment.
OzzyOsbourne
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:40:09 PM permalink
the dealer let her hit a hard 17 against a 5? I would have been furious. Hopefully you were using some next card strategy :)
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AxiomOfChoice
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:41:20 PM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Once, about 10 years ago, I was playing blackjack with my then-girlfriend at the California Club in Vegas.. She always played in front of me and took signals from me to deviate from basic strategy ( ie., hit when you should stand, not double when you should double, etc). So the true count is -6 (H17) and I see she has a hard 17 vs. dealer up-card of 5. I signal her, she hits, and right when the card hits the felt I say (NO!). It�s nice to see that the boyfriend wants to stop her from hitting a hard 17 even though it�s too late and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!! is staring at us all. Well, her (bad play) saved the table ( and I looked like James Bond to her). Probably my proudest AP moment.



At -6 you should have signalled her to meet you in the bathroom for a quickie.
KeyserSoze
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:43:01 PM permalink
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At -6 you should have signalled her to meet you in the bathroom for a quickie.



Exactly.
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AxelWolf
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December 16th, 2013 at 4:52:39 PM permalink
Quote: KeyserSoze

Exactly.

I would have signaled her a backhanded slap, if she didn't know to stand on a hard 17 V a 5. originally this said 17 VS dealers 6
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Greasyjohn
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December 16th, 2013 at 5:12:42 PM permalink
Shoot me now and I promise I'll die right away. You'll notice that I have made the correction to my original post. I wonder how I'm going to find my car in a parking structure if I can't proof read better than that.
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December 17th, 2013 at 8:02:01 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Once, about 10 years ago, I was playing blackjack with my then-girlfriend at the California Club in Vegas.. She always played in front of me and took signals from me to deviate from basic strategy ( ie., hit when you should stand, not double when you should double, etc). So the true count is -6 (H17) and I see she has a hard 17 vs. dealer up-card of 5. I signal her, she hits, and right when the card hits the felt I say (NO!). It�s nice to see that the boyfriend wants to stop her from hitting a hard 17 even though it�s too late and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!! is staring at us all. Well, her (bad play) saved the table ( and I looked like James Bond to her). Probably my proudest AP moment.

"Probably my proudest AP moment." Yikes
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
AxelWolf
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December 17th, 2013 at 8:11:35 AM permalink
Quote: Greasyjohn

Once, about 10 years ago, I was playing blackjack with my then-girlfriend at the California Club in Vegas. She always played in front of me and took signals from me to deviate from basic strategy ( ie., hit when you should stand, not double when you should double, etc). So the true count is -6 (H17) and I see she has a hard 17 vs. dealer up-card of ace. I signal her, she hits, and right when the card hits the felt I say (NO!). It’s nice to see that the boyfriend wants to stop her from hitting a hard 17 even though it’s too late and the 3!!!!!!!!!!!!! is staring at us all. Well, her (bad) play saved the table ( and I looked like James Bond to her). Probably my proudest AP moment.

Why all the hand signals? That would look sneaky for sure. Why not just sit next to her and say hit or stand?

one of the most blatant hand signaling I have seen especially since its on TV

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=659_1360278055

Ace – Top of head
King – Forehead
Queen – Eye
Jack – Nose
Ten – Mouth
Eight or Nine – Neck
Small Pair – Arm
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 17th, 2013 at 8:26:57 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why all the hand signals? That would look sneaky for sure. Why not just sit next to her and say hit or stand?


That's what I was thinking too. Casinos couldn't care less if a guy tells his girlfriend when to hit/stand. OP must have seen one too many gambling movies. :)
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mickeycrimm
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December 17th, 2013 at 8:27:15 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Why all the hand signals? That would look sneaky for sure. Why not just sit next to her and say hit or stand?

one of the most blatant hand signaling I have seen especially since its on TV

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=659_1360278055

Ace – Top of head
King – Forehead
Queen – Eye
Jack – Nose
Ten – Mouth
Eight or Nine – Neck
Small Pair – Arm



Very funny video. But hand signals is not the way the old time, big time, poker pros colluded. They played "top hand" and used code language. "Top hand" means, say there are three colluders, one holding a pair of Kings, the other holding a pair of Queens, the other holding an Ace-Jack suited. Only the pair of Kings is going to play. They are going to give the "mark" as little pot odds as possible.

They didn't use hand signals. To easy to detect. They used code language. The code word for Ace is "play." The code word for six is "nuts." The colluder looks down at his hand, mucks it, and says "I can't play without the nuts." He just told the other colluders he threw away an Ace-six. Whichever of the colluders who has top hand will know two cards out of the deck that are not available to either him or the mark.
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