aceofspades
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May 20th, 2013 at 2:25:56 PM permalink
I was at a table and a gentleman was dealt 7,7, versus a dealer King

He kept screaming for a "necktie" - I assumed he wanted another 7 (I usually just called this the "Triple 7")

He did indeed get the third 7 and screamed out " I got my necktie!!!"

I asked him why he called it that and he said he had no idea but that he learned to call it that from hearing others call it that throughout his years of playing blackjack

Does anyone know the origin of why a 7-7-7 is called a "necktie"?...or was this merely his own naming convention?



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May 20th, 2013 at 3:39:35 PM permalink
i've never heard of that. maybe because the three 7 cards in a row sort of look like a necktie if you look at it sideways?
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May 20th, 2013 at 3:40:32 PM permalink
Quote: sodawater

i've never heard of that. maybe because the three 7 cards in a row sort of look like a necktie if you look at it sideways?




That was my guess as well - I google'd it and didn't come up with much either - perhaps it was the players' he learned from ages ago esoteric name for it?
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May 20th, 2013 at 3:51:44 PM permalink
Could he have meant that any seven is a necktie,so an upside down seven almost looks like a rope to hang you with.
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May 20th, 2013 at 3:52:40 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

Could he have meant that any seven is a necktie,so an upside down seven almost looks like a rope to hang you with.




Nah he specifically stated a necktie is 7-7-7 (not just one 7)
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May 20th, 2013 at 4:03:09 PM permalink
A sign of a quality necktie is that it is made from 1 piece of fabric and has 7 folds to get its thickness. This type of tie is usually called a 7-fold tie, could well come from this but I have never heard the expression myself.
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May 20th, 2013 at 4:12:47 PM permalink
Quote: kenarman

A sign of a quality necktie is that it is made from 1 piece of fabric and has 7 folds to get its thickness. This type of tie is usually called a 7-fold tie, could well come from this but I have never heard the expression myself.




Interesting theory - you have at least enlightened us as to quality tie-making procedures- thank you
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May 20th, 2013 at 6:03:02 PM permalink
Years ago, I heard another tale about neckties, but it was based on tie design that involved getting bulk from a liner fabric that was not of the same material as the face fabric. (I think all of my ties have liners.) Anyway, that liner fabric typically has a number of threadlines (stripes) in it that are of a contrasting color; you can see this by opening the larger end of the tie and looking at that liner.

The way I heard the tale was that the number of those contrasting lines was an indicator of the manufacturer's rating of the tie quality. I suspect that was not true, because I have seen no correlation between the number of lines and the quality of ties I have owned. However, there are indeed these colored threadlines in almost all of the liners, and the number of lines differs, so I think it may be a code to represent something, even if it is not a quality level.

I have also been told that most high-end neckties are of fabric, usually silk, that is colored in Italy, regardless of where the tie itself was made. That is because the Italians had specialized their textile dyeing processes to allow them to economically print each color/pattern in the very small quantities desired by the tie segment of the textile industry. Most textile dyeing operations get their economy from massive production runs.
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May 20th, 2013 at 7:11:00 PM permalink
Doc -
I heard that the number of lines on the tie liner is an indicator of the weight of the liner itself.
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May 20th, 2013 at 8:04:59 PM permalink
Fabric weight makes more sense than quality. The tie style and face fabric weight would call for a particular liner weight, and a handy code for weight would be useful in keeping things straight at the sewing plant.
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