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JimRockford
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May 13th, 2013 at 11:46:48 AM permalink
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When I was there in March I think they did have the info cards on the table. Or maybe I'm confusing it with Casino Royale. I know I read it somewhere. The dealers weren't very helpful, not that I needed any help, but there was a foreign couple who didn't know what they were doing at all playing next to me for a bit. Then they lost all their chips and I was left alone for the rest of my session.



Are the rules at the Mirage as described on the Wizard's page (shown below), or have they been tweaked? I think there was some talk of not allowing 4s to be split.

6 decks
Dealer hits soft 17's
Blackjacks pay 3 to 2
Double after split allowed
Double on two cards only
Re-split pairs up to four hands, including aces
Split aces receive one card only
Late surrender allowed
"Free Doubles" on hard totals of 9, 10, or 11 with any number of cards.
"Free Splits" on all pairs except 10's.
Dealer 22 is a push
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May 13th, 2013 at 11:59:36 AM permalink
Last year I checked out SWITCH in Blackhawk. In 4 different casinos. 1 had rack cards prominently displayed. 1 got me a rack card
from a stand drawer in the pit. 2 had no rack cards or a set of rules even. Were willing to explain the game to me though. Per gaming the casino MUST have a set of rules available for the players.

A dealer I went to dealer's school with told me the Mardi Gras kept a set of rules in the safe? I was tempted to call gaming but out of respect for SWITCH, I did not. Hopefully going to Blackhawk this Wednesday and see if Switch is still available.

I always like to get a rack card whenever I see a new game, to read then and later, as well as show to other people. I think the return on rack cards is very profitable indeed. If only they are displayed.

Perhaps Dan can give his opinion on this matter as both a dealer and now working for the darkside. LOL
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:03:50 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I always like to get a rack card whenever I see a new game, to read then and later, as well as show to other people. I think the return on rack cards is very profitable indeed. If only they are displayed.

Perhaps Dan can give his opinion on this matter as both a dealer and now working for the darkside. LOL


If I'm at a casino where I see an interesting new game, I take a rack card, or ask for a rack card, sure. If they have it, I read it. If they don't, they can explain the game to me.

And of course I always check www.wizardofOdds.com.

There you go.
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Buzzard
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:14:59 PM permalink
Was curious if dealers have any objection to card rack on the table and how suppliers of game feel about importance of rack cards.
SHFL Entertainment distributes and does the training for SWITCH in Colorado.

I know SHFL provided more than enough rack cards, but they can not change the mindset of most casino management. I doubt I will find SWITCH on this visit. A great reason for it's demise is the refusal of management to lower the limits,
on weekends especially. Unreasonable to expect people to sit down at a new game, be required to bet $20 in total as you must play 2
hand to switch, instead of $10 shoe or double-deck games.

I ain't an expert,but I do know Blackhawk players. $20 a pop to play a new game. NO WAY
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Switch
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:15:08 PM permalink
Quote: JimRockford

Are the rules at the Mirage as described on the Wizard's page (shown below), or have they been tweaked? I think there was some talk of not allowing 4s to be split.

6 decks
Dealer hits soft 17's
Blackjacks pay 3 to 2
Double after split allowed
Double on two cards only
Re-split pairs up to four hands, including aces
Split aces receive one card only
Late surrender allowed
"Free Doubles" on hard totals of 9, 10, or 11 with any number of cards.
"Free Splits" on all pairs except 10's.
Dealer 22 is a push



Jim, as far as I'm aware, these are the rules that are being used at The Mirage.

The not allowing 4's to be split was used in a variation that allowed multi-card doubles on 9,10 & 11.
Switch
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:19:06 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Was curious if dealers have any objection to card rack on the table and how suppliers of game feel about importance of rack cards.
SHFL Entertainment distributes and does the training for SWITCH in Colorado.



Personally I think that the rack cards are extremely important on a new game. If the game is simple and appealing then a rack card can highlight this very quickly.

I look forward to your Colorado report Buzz although I'm not expecting good news from what you've already stated.
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:19:15 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

I know SHFL provided more than enough rack cards, but they can not change the mindset of most casino management. I doubt I will find SWITCH on this visit. A great reason for it's demise is the refusal of management to lower the limits,
on weekends especially. Unreasonable to expect people to sit down at a new game, be required to bet $20 in total as you must play 2
hand to switch, instead of $10 shoe or double-deck games.


I believe many casinos BUY the rack cards, even if the casino names are not shown on them.
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:22:07 PM permalink
Maybe Dan or Roger can enlighten us. I would think the game distributor would gladly provide the rack card free.
Provided they felt confident the cards would be displayed and not trashcanned ? Or a nomimal fee at most!
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:24:33 PM permalink
Only gonna be there a day or two, but will hit every casino there and Central city, then check out Isle, Lodge, and Ameristar.

Last figures I saw Ameristar had 38% of the market. So am confident the three I named have 60%+.
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JimRockford
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May 13th, 2013 at 12:37:06 PM permalink
6 decks
Dealer hits soft 17's
Blackjacks pay 3 to 2
Double after split allowed
Double on two cards only
Re-split pairs up to four hands, including aces
Split aces receive one card only
Late surrender allowed
"Free Doubles" on hard totals of 9, 10, or 11 with any number of cards.
"Free Splits" on all pairs except 10's.
Dealer 22 is a push

Quote: Switch

Jim, as far as I'm aware, these are the rules that are being used at The Mirage.

The not allowing 4's to be split was used in a variation that allowed multi-card doubles on 9,10 & 11.



Thanks Switch,
So the rules above are accurate except Free doubles on 9, 10 and 11 are on two cards only. Does that make the HE about 1.15%?
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