Gor
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December 1st, 2012 at 1:11:21 PM permalink
Hey guys I just wanted some clarity on when I can actually surrender.
I was playing at a Casino in Calgary Canada where surrender was available, I was the 4th guy to be Dealt cards. My first 2 cards were a 10 and a 6, the dealers card was a 10.

The 3 players before me decided to hit. When it came to my turn I said "Surrender" but the dealer said I must have told him so BEFORE the 3 players in front of me made any play.

Is the dealer correct or did he make a mistake?
MakingBook
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December 1st, 2012 at 1:19:07 PM permalink
Was Paigowdan the dealer? He may have been pissed off at you for using your brain and making the correct play.

Otherwise, the dealer made a mistake.
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December 1st, 2012 at 1:26:03 PM permalink
I've never heard that one and I've been playing for a long, long time. I'll stop short of calling it a mistake but I don't know what else it could have been. Ask for the floor or pit boss immediately when you have a question on any procedure. Is that the only time it happened?
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Gor
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December 1st, 2012 at 1:36:13 PM permalink
Thanks guys I had just memorized the
Basic strategy and was trying surrender
For the 1st time. It's probably because
No one in Calgary ever surrenders so
Dealer must have been confused. Ill make sure
To call the pit boss over next time.
Paigowdan
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December 1st, 2012 at 2:06:38 PM permalink
Quote: MakingBook

Was Paigowdan the dealer? He may have been pissed off at you for using your brain and making the correct play.

Otherwise, the dealer made a mistake.


No, I would have happily let him surrender, as per game and house rules. And I'm never pissed off if anyone uses their brains, I'm dissapointed when they don't use their brains. I never said otherwise, but you have on my behalf, Makingbook, putting your false words in my mouth. Not appreciated.

People love to speak for me, like I'm not around or something.

So Please get it straight. If it is a part of the game's rules, and it is fine with the house, then it is fine with me. Every time. And accepting the game rules and house rules to avoid any incident is indeed using your brains when in a casino.

I also know how to deal casino games.
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December 1st, 2012 at 3:28:33 PM permalink
At this risk of reheating this argument for the 17th time, I would call card counting making especially good use of ones brain at the table.
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Paigowdan
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December 1st, 2012 at 3:43:53 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

At this risk of reheating this argument for the 17th time, I would call card counting making especially good use of ones brain at the table.


If you get away with it, then yes, indeed.

If not, it can be a bad trip.

In this regard, it is "additional gambling," which is part of the game, or a side game.

My opinion is that obeying the house rules of the property that you are in, - is the wisest course of action.
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Paigowdan
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December 1st, 2012 at 3:53:45 PM permalink
Anway!

If surrender is allowed, then it is offered at your turn to hit or stand, regardless of other players' actions.

What the dealer committed was an error.
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December 1st, 2012 at 4:08:21 PM permalink
" If you get away with it, then yes, indeed. " and what exactly an I getting away with, other than playing good enough to win ?
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Gor
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December 1st, 2012 at 4:41:14 PM permalink
Thanks for the clarification guys. The dealer also told me that surrender vs ace is not allowed. Is this standard in Las Vegas?

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