petro
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February 18th, 2011 at 10:24:37 PM permalink
I have only just started out in Blackjack but would like some advice with betting patterns.
I have found that flat betting is bad.
For instance with flat betting after ~50 hands I would usually be about 5-10 units down.
I'm now varying my bet sizes and noticed a substantial increase in my gain through blackjack.
Some sessions I was up by ~50 units.
This makes a nice change to slowly losing.

Ideally I would like to find a betting pattern that has a decent chance of gain but doesn't go too far overboard like the Martingale does.

I was wondering what betting patterns others use.
In particular what betting pattern the Wizard uses would be great to know. :)
clarkacal
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February 18th, 2011 at 10:40:23 PM permalink
I use a betting pattern where I look at the second hand of my watch. If the second hand is at 15, 30, 45, or 00 I bet 15 units. If it's at 5, 20, 35, 50 I bet 5 units. And so on. I find that this sufficiently confuses the cards and I have a better chance of winning. Sometimes I wear a disguise just to be sure.
NicksGamingStuff
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February 18th, 2011 at 10:43:35 PM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

I use a betting pattern where I look at the second hand of my watch. If the second hand is at 15, 30, 45, or 00 I bet 15 units. If it's at 5, 20, 35, 50 I bet 5 units. And so on. I find that this sufficiently confuses the cards and I have a better chance of winning. Sometimes I wear a disguise just to be sure.



With the crazy variance in BJ I think this is an excellent way to play, I cant tell you how many times I have been brutally beaten with a count of +3 or more!
avianrandy
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February 18th, 2011 at 10:53:51 PM permalink
Personally,I start out with 1 unit.Every hand I win,i add another 1 more unit.If I push or lose the hand,then I go back to my starting 1 unit.This way I can maximize the good streaks of the shoe with more money out and at the same time have minimum out for the bad streaks.Good luck in your gambling and memorize the basic strategy for the shoe game you are playing.
clarkacal
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February 19th, 2011 at 12:18:02 AM permalink
Quote: NicksGamingStuff

With the crazy variance in BJ I think this is an excellent way to play, I cant tell you how many times I have been brutally beaten with a count of +3 or more!



I have several other betting systems for sale at the low low price of 19.95. Right now for a limited time I'm offering a guarantee that if you don't win your first session after purchasing my systems I will give you 2 FREE picks of the week in sports. Call now!
soulhunt79
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February 19th, 2011 at 12:35:42 AM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

I have several other betting systems for sale at the low low price of 19.95. Right now for a limited time I'm offering a guarantee that if you don't win your first session after purchasing my systems I will give you 2 FREE picks of the week in sports. Call now!



You see I don't have a watch as I just use my phone as my clock. The pit boss may get annoyed if I continuously bring out my phone to check it. I don't want to be watched more carefully while I'm using a system to take money from a casino.

Do your other systems require such hardware or are they more subtle?
WizardofEngland
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February 19th, 2011 at 1:24:01 AM permalink
Quote: clarkacal

I have several other betting systems for sale at the low low price of 19.95. Right now for a limited time I'm offering a guarantee that if you don't win your first session after purchasing my systems I will give you 2 FREE picks of the week in sports. Call now!



Whats the number? If it starts 555 it's probably a scam IMHO
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/10042-woes-black-sheep-game-ii/#post151727
P90
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February 19th, 2011 at 3:08:34 AM permalink
Quote: petro

Ideally I would like to find a betting pattern that has a decent chance of gain but doesn't go too far overboard like the Martingale does.


Sure, I can help you out.

First check the table rules.

If BJ pays less than 3:2 or a Spanish deck is used, bet $0, else:
On a table with double after split, resplit to 4+ hands, resplit aces or double on split aces, bet 1/6 of your bankroll.
On a table with double after split, resplit to 3+ hands, bet 20% of your bankroll.
On a table with double after split, no resplits, bet 25% of your bankroll.
On a table with no double after split, with resplits, bet $0 if it's a shoe game or 1/3 of your bankroll if it's a 1 or 2 deck game.
On a table with no double after split, no resplits, bet $0 if it's a shoe game or 50% of your bankroll if it's a 1 or 2 deck game.

On the next hand, recalculate the bet based on your new bankroll.
In games that include shuffles, if you saw more aces on the table in the last hand than there are decks in the game, quit until the next shuffle.
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Jufo81
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February 19th, 2011 at 4:16:00 AM permalink
I think petro is referring to online blackjack where shuffle takes place between every hand.
benbakdoff
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February 19th, 2011 at 4:16:09 AM permalink
Quote: petro

I have only just started out in Blackjack but would like some advice with betting patterns.
I have found that flat betting is bad.
For instance with flat betting after ~50 hands I would usually be about 5-10 units down.
I'm now varying my bet sizes and noticed a substantial increase in my gain through blackjack.
Some sessions I was up by ~50 units.
This makes a nice change to slowly losing.

Ideally I would like to find a betting pattern that has a decent chance of gain but doesn't go too far overboard like the Martingale does.

I was wondering what betting patterns others use.
In particular what betting pattern the Wizard uses would be great to know. :)



You asked a legitimate question and deserve a legitimate answer. My answer to you and to avianrandy is that there is no betting pattern or system that can overcome the house edge in the long run. Please don't be fooled by a few wins.

You already realize that flat betting doesn't work and you instinctively want to vary your bets. That can be dangerous because double downs and multiple splits can cause you to lose up to 10 times what you've just won. If you put more money on the table, you will lose more money. Forget about streaks because by the time you recognize a streak it's over.

If you want to win at blackjack you must learn card counting and the Wizard's sites have all the information you need to get started.

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