OnceDear's Method

Quote: tuttigym

Hey DO, Didn't EB post that he pays all his bills with his online wins? I want to see his bills.

tuttigym
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I have no mortgage, no car payment, no other bills besides utilities, food for myself and my cats, insurance, property tax, and I fill up my gas tank once a month. And my property tax is not that high because I live in a rural area. Not too hard to figure out what my nut is every month. Peanuts compared to how other people live.

Quote: rainman

Just booked Vegas 18-22nd, If you want to join me we can wager who will win
the most.
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Although it is a fantasy of mine to meet you in person I'm sorry I'm going to have to disappoint you because I'm never going to Las Vegas again, I don't need to. I hate that place with a passion. They took an ugly desert and made it even uglier.

Quote: Mental

]EB, this is not your thread. How arrogant you are to try to cancel people who are stating their honest opinions?
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I'm not aware of canceling anyone what are you talking about. How do you cancel somebody online anyway.

Quote: Mental

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: rainman

Good Grief Bob, The dude just told you he has taken millions in free play,
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LOL! Good one... Please try and find another hobby besides bothering me all the time would you? There's a good lad..
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EB, this is not your thread. How arrogant you are to try to cancel people who are stating their honest opinions?
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EB has a history of denying AP. He doesn't believe my claims.

This is because he wants to be recognized as an AP but doesn't know how so he makes fantasy AP.

An advantage that works against-EV without need for even comps made of guesses (not educated ones) that see patterns in his mind which he can use.

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: Mental

Seriously, can you find a single person who has recommended turning down free money? ]

It's well known that I've never even had a player's card, and never will have one. Every time they ask me no matter where I am for my players card I always tell them I'm only going to be playing for a few minutes which is usually the truth. All that crap is made for people like you, go ahead wallow in it, I have no use for it. If you're a consistent winner especially online you don't want anything to do with their 'free' crap. Because the first thing they're going to do if you come under any kind of scrutiny for being a consistent winner Is they're going to think you're cheating. And if they also see that you're abusing their bonus system you're done, you're toast. But you have nothing to worry about, obviously. Funny thing is in all the years I went to the casinos before the computers took over and they had players cards, I used to get comps, back in the 80s and 90s. But not anymore.
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From my experience the casino comping is better than ever now based on your play when it comes to mid-levels to higher level play.

Low-rolling players not so much.

Back in the 80's early 90's, before slot cards were the standard comps were often based on buy-ins and other factors. It was fairly easy to get comped food without actually playing or spending a dime...

The casinos provided gaming log booklets.
Buy rolls of nickels, quarters, dollars, etc from various change people, cages, and carousels.
They would log the buy-ins to your booklet and initial it.
Takes those coins to a cashier or the slot carousels and gets cash, Rinse repeat.
You could rack up thousands over a few trips. If you wanted to make it look good there were various machines you could basically just sit at and feed coins in without playing and then cash out (For our Sigma Derby Fans, that was one such machine)

Take your booklet to a host, manager, or even floor people at some places. Depending on the place and comp amount you wanted they would mark off between $ 200-$1,000+ and give you a comp to wherever you wanted to go. It worked for free rooms as well, but I didn't have a need for that. Oh, and free cigarettes.

I did it fairly often when I first started, but not as frequently as I should have. I didn't really need to since I was soon getting legit comps from actual play. Also, I wasn't really into fancy food, A good old mom-and-pop shop burger and fries was way better to me than a steak dinner. A 49c -$2 breakfast was just as good.

Years later, I just happened to rent Hard Eight on Video and saw this.

Quote: AxelWolf

Back in the 80's early 90's, before slot cards were the standard comps were often based on buy-ins and other factors. It was fairly easy to get comped food without actually playing or spending a dime...

The casinos provided gaming log booklets.

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Yes it was extremely easy to get comps in those days all you had to do was be staying at the casino and ask. Some casinos were better than others, if they saw you playing the slots or being around a lot and you were staying at the hotel we were never not given a comp that we asked for. I remember booklets of coupons that were really sought after and they would give you one when you checked in, then you'd wait for the shift change and go back to the desk and say they forgot to give you one they would always give you another one. So between comps and those booklets we never paid for a meal and of course we never paid for a room because they would send us stuff in the mail for when we came back. There was one hotel on the Strip that was really good for that, they tore it down about 10 years ago and I can't remember its name for some reason. One of the real old ones from the '50s. It'll come back to me. Sometimes if you offered the girl at the desk $20 bill she would give you two coupon books but not always.

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: AxelWolf

Back in the 80's early 90's, before slot cards were the standard comps were often based on buy-ins and other factors. It was fairly easy to get comped food without actually playing or spending a dime...

The casinos provided gaming log booklets.

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Yes it was extremely easy to get comps in those days all you had to do was be staying at the casino and ask. Some casinos were better than others, if they saw you playing the slots or being around a lot and you were staying at the hotel we were never not given a comp that we asked for. I remember booklets of coupons that were really sought after and they would give you one when you checked in, then you'd wait for the shift change and go back to the desk and say they forgot to give you one they would always give you another one. So between comps and those booklets we never paid for a meal and of course we never paid for a room because they would send us stuff in the mail for when we came back. There was one hotel on the Strip that was really good for that, they tore it down about 10 years ago and I can't remember its name for some reason. One of the real old ones from the '50s. It'll come back to me. Sometimes if you offered the girl at the desk $20 bill she would give you two coupon books but not always.
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Nowadays, when they send you mailers, they will give you more in free play than in food comps. For instance, they might give you $100 in food and $500 in free play. A host might give you more food comps. Obviously, I would much rather have free play than food comps.

Quote: AxelWolf

Nowadays, when they send you mailers, they will give you more in free play than in food comps. For instance, they might give you $100 in food and $500 in free play. A host might give you more food comps. Obviously, I would much rather have free play than food comps.
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They also give away lots of free packs of cigarettes for comps. All you had to do was ask but in those days cigarettes didn't cost $70 a carton like they do now I'm talking 30 35 years ago. I didn't smoke but I used to see it all the time. Vegas was a lot more fun than in those days, a totally different crowd of people and the casinos were friendlier. Like they actually cared about your business.

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Quote: AxelWolf

Nowadays, when they send you mailers, they will give you more in free play than in food comps. For instance, they might give you $100 in food and $500 in free play. A host might give you more food comps. Obviously, I would much rather have free play than food comps.
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They also give away lots of free packs of cigarettes for comps. All you had to do was ask but in those days cigarettes didn't cost $70 a carton like they do now I'm talking 30 35 years ago. I didn't smoke but I used to see it all the time. Vegas was a lot more fun than in those days, a totally different crowd of people and the casinos were friendlier. Like they actually cared about your business.
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You mean when the mafia controlled the casinos and buried many patrons they didn't like in the desert?

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: AxelWolf

Nowadays, when they send you mailers, they will give you more in free play than in food comps. For instance, they might give you $100 in food and $500 in free play. A host might give you more food comps. Obviously, I would much rather have free play than food comps.
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They also give away lots of free packs of cigarettes for comps. All you had to do was ask but in those days cigarettes didn't cost $70 a carton like they do now I'm talking 30 35 years ago. I didn't smoke but I used to see it all the time. Vegas was a lot more fun than in those days, a totally different crowd of people and the casinos were friendlier. Like they actually cared about your business.
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I did mention cigarettes. Hosts to comp generously nowadays, however, it's now based on actual action. The casinos just took the guesswork out of it. For an individual who actually plays, it's better, he gets more now that freeloaders and lowrollers get less.

For the guy looking for a free ride or more than they deserve, it is not so good.

Quote: darkoz

You mean when the mafia controlled the casinos and buried many patrons they didn't like in the desert?
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That was all done by the 1980s

I Protest! And I'm calling upon the moderators to adjudicate. This thread has just been savagely hijacked and taken way off topic.


I'll try to bring it back on topic with session 4 report.....

4 hands of Blackjack, flat betting 20p.

[Edited to correct an error]
Tied the first 2, lost the third, but won the fourth with a blackjack, putting me up 10p on the day.

I'll edit a screen-grap of the logs when I have a little more time, later today.

To answer a valid point raised by EvenBob earlier, that I'm only talking about, reather than demonstrating my method, I'll remind him that he spend over a decade talking about his ( friends ) method before he demonstrated that he even placed wagers. So I'm not beating myself up about the forensics.

Sessions played 4: Sessions won 4: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

[edit. Here's the game log I promised Higher res and unredacted available to the moderators]


Heads up. I have been granted 3 free spins on a slot. Results from those spins might feature in the next screengrab, but are outside the remit of this method.

Quote: OnceDear

I Protest! And I'm calling upon the moderators to adjudicate. This thread has just been savagely hijacked and taken way off topic.


I'll try to bring it back on topic with session 4 report.....

4 hands of Blackjack, flat betting 20p.
Lost the first 2, won the second 2, but the second win I got a blackjack, putting me up 10p on the day.

I'll edit a screen-grap of the logs when I have a little more time, later today.

To answer a valid point raised by EvenBob earlier, that I'm only talking about, reather than demonstrating my method, I'll remind him that he spend over a decade talking about his ( friends ) method before he demonstrated that he even placed wagers. So I'm not beating myself up about the forensics.

Sessions played 4: Sessions won 4: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%
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Thanks for getting back on topic. Sorry if I contributed to the hijacking.

Congratulations on continuing to show how easy it is to win one unit in most sessions. But, how are you going to prove you did it by using a simple and well understood betting system rather than 'reading randomness' globally or otherwise?

Quote: Mental

Quote: OnceDear

I Protest! And I'm calling upon the moderators to adjudicate. This thread has just been savagely hijacked and taken way off topic.

I'll try to bring it back on topic with session 4 report.....

Sessions played 4: Sessions won 4: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%
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Thanks for getting back on topic. Sorry if I contributed to the hijacking.

Congratulations on continuing to show how easy it is to win one unit in most sessions. But, how are you going to prove you did it by using a simple and well understood betting system rather than 'reading randomness' globally or otherwise?
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Thanks for the congratulation and apology which I accept. And thanks for the good question.

I'm currently musing on the question of how fast I should reveal the full method. I could write up the complete method, in it's entirety in one rather long post or article. Or I could spin it out over very many Q & A posts, interspersed with snippets of detail. That's a matter of the value of Editorial Content.

Let's start with an answer that might not quite address Mental's question...
"But, how are you going to prove you did it by using a simple and well understood betting system rather than 'reading randomness' globally or otherwise?"

Proof first will be that I did it or am doing it. I'll confess that with the surprisingly long second session, I got lazy in presentation of the forensic evidence. So I'll address that in future. Now. I won't prove that I did it using a simple and well understood betting system, because frankly I am not. I am NOT using a simple and well understood betting system. Period!
From time to time, I might be flat betting for a while, and from time to time, as the mood takes me, I might wager in ways that resemble common, named systems. It's incidental and all in the service of the one true, consistent thing: The method
As to 'reading randomness'? If I thought that expression had any meaning, I might be able to address that. I don't, so I can't.

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: 100xOdds

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat.
Hit and run is not a winning strategy, Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy,
Progressives are not a winning strategy.
Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

Ok OD, i'll bite.
Why are progressives not a winning strategy?
When high enough, it's +EV.
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OD is discussing what is termed a progressive betting strategy. He is not referring to betting on ‘progressive jackpots’
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So he's basically double posting about Pressing is Not a winning strategy in his sig.
He could have shortened his Sig by saying 'Pressing into trends and Progressive betting is not a winning strategy."
:)

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: 100xOdds

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat.
Hit and run is not a winning strategy, Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy,
Progressives are not a winning strategy.
Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

Ok OD, i'll bite.
Why are progressives not a winning strategy?
When high enough, it's +EV.
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OD is discussing what is termed a progressive betting strategy. He is not referring to betting on ‘progressive jackpots’
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So he's basically double posting about Pressing is Not a winning strategy.
He could have shortened his Sig by saying 'Pressing into trends and Progressive betting is not a winning strategy."
:)
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll tweak my sig to remove ambiguity. The Earth is still not flat :o)

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: 100xOdds

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat.
Hit and run is not a winning strategy, Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy,
Progressives are not a winning strategy.
Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

Ok OD, i'll bite.
Why are progressives not a winning strategy?
When high enough, it's +EV.
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OD is discussing what is termed a progressive betting strategy. He is not referring to betting on ‘progressive jackpots’
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So he's basically double posting about Pressing is Not a winning strategy.
He could have shortened his Sig by saying 'Pressing into trends and Progressive betting is not a winning strategy."
:)
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll tweak my sig to remove ambiguity. The Earth is still not flat :o)
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For Craps, i like pressing into trends because it's fun.
but Fibonacci sequence progressive betting seemed too aggressive for my taste.
i developed my own pressing pattern based on Excel modeling.

Flat Earther's untie! (Or was that unite?)

I understand the wish to prove EB isn't doing something most anyone cant do but from the way you described your system or method if you will it sounded like EB.

Basically if you can prove that you can do it just like EB isn't that validating that EB does what he says?

EB will now say see -EV games can be beat. I do it and now even other posters are able to do it as well

Quote: OnceDear

and from time to time, as the mood takes me, I might wager in ways that resemble common, named systems. It's incidental and all in the service of the one true, consistent thing: The method

correct me if I'm wrong but I believe you're referring to money management systems such as d'almebert and labouchere

I've done the same thing trying to win one unit on the Wiz's free bacc game

not that I ever really believed I would be a long term winner - but just for fun

what I've found out - it often works - but eventually you will hit such a long losing streak that you could not possibly recover without making huge bets that you wouldn't want to make if you were playing for real

.

Quote: darkoz

I understand the wish to prove EB isn't doing something most anyone cant do but from the way you described your system or method if you will it sounded like EB.

Basically if you can prove that you can do it just like EB isn't that validating that EB does what he says?

EB will now say see -EV games can be beat. I do it and now even other posters are able to do it as well
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I can't prove what EvenBob is or isn't doing. Why would anyone bother to try.

Nor am I trying to demonstrate EvenBob's method on his behalf.

Did I even say that my method is in competition with EvenBob's method?

What does 'games can be beat' even mean?

It's just a method. OnceDear's Method. Being related here for my, or our amusement.

Quote: Dieter

Any reason you picked Red?

This flies in the face of the advice I've heard.

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That's the best question asked so far in this thread. The answer to that is just so awesomely revealing that I decline to answer for now. It's a cliffhanger of a revelation to look forward to, possibly after I win session 50. I will tell you that Session 50 will NOT feature a wager on Red!

I'm inclined to have a second session today, after session 4 won only half a unit. What the heck. So be it.

Quote: OnceDear

I Protest! And I'm calling upon the moderators to adjudicate. This thread has just been savagely hijacked and taken way off topic.

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I sheepishly decline to name names.

Savage hijackings will be savagely retaliated against, with little further warning.

This thread may be blocked by following this link.

You may view which threads you have blocked by following this link.

Quote: OnceDear

I'm inclined to have a second session today, after session 4 won only half a unit. What the heck. So be it.
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OK. Session 5 completed. The game was RNG Blackjack with 20p Minimum.

A bit longer, this session comprised 17 wagers and the log extended over two pages.
I Tied 2 wagers
I won 6 wagers
I lost 9 wagers
Session Profit 20p

This reveals something to those of you with sharp eyes. OnceDear's Method sometimes has winning sessions where he loses more wagers than he wins.

Log file image edited for brevity and redacted for privacy.

Sessions played 5: Sessions won 5: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: 100xOdds

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat.
Hit and run is not a winning strategy, Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy,
Progressives are not a winning strategy.
Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

Ok OD, i'll bite.
Why are progressives not a winning strategy?
When high enough, it's +EV.
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OD is discussing what is termed a progressive betting strategy. He is not referring to betting on ‘progressive jackpots’
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So he's basically double posting about Pressing is Not a winning strategy.
He could have shortened his Sig by saying 'Pressing into trends and Progressive betting is not a winning strategy."
:)
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll tweak my sig to remove ambiguity. The Earth is still not flat :o)
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That's good because I was worried about your integrity especially your first commandment: hit and run which you have been doing since the start of this thread. BTW if anyone cares, I personally believe and execute the "hit and run" strategy.

tuttigym

Quote: tuttigym

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Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: 100xOdds

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat.
Hit and run is not a winning strategy, Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy,
Progressives are not a winning strategy.
Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

Ok OD, i'll bite.
Why are progressives not a winning strategy?
When high enough, it's +EV.
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OD is discussing what is termed a progressive betting strategy. He is not referring to betting on ‘progressive jackpots’
link to original post

So he's basically double posting about Pressing is Not a winning strategy.
He could have shortened his Sig by saying 'Pressing into trends and Progressive betting is not a winning strategy."
:)
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll tweak my sig to remove ambiguity. The Earth is still not flat :o)
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That's good because I was worried about your integrity especially your first commandment: hit and run which you have been doing since the start of this thread. BTW if anyone cares, I personally believe and execute the "hit and run" strategy.

tuttigym
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My Sig relies on a shared definition of the ambiguous phrase "not a winning strategy"

If I were sentenced to death unless I could muster $1,000 ransom to buy my freedom and I had exactly £990 in my pocket, would, say a session of Euro roulette at $10 minimum wager, where I wagered $10 on each of the first 35 numbers be a winning strategy? My probability of winning $10 on the first spin, and thus surviving would be 35/37=94.5% and even if I lost, I'd still have $640 of bankroll.
Would it be an even better winning strategy if I Martingaled $10 on red? Playing thus would give me a roughly 99% chance of winning the $10 required to survive and I could be no worse off if I lost the whole $990 bankroll. A Win: ANY WIN, OF ANY AMOUNT over $10 would be a far, far greater value than any amount that I could possibly lose.

Well, for the purposes of my Sig I still would insist that these are not winning strategies because the objective is not to win more often on average, but to be +EV on average.

'nuff said for now.

Quote: Mental

Quote: EvenBob

How lucky I am to have stumbled on a place where half the people here have consistent winning methods systems strategies for winning! Turns out I'm just a small fish in a big pond and I'm looking forward to all the help given me along the way in my quest for baccarat. What a nice group of folks..
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Yes, and you are also lucky to live in a state where they have online gambling. But you eschew the significant amounts of free play bonuses that the online casinos will shower on you (far in excess of your expected losses if you do it right), just the way you turn your nose up at the advice given freely by people who make their living based on math and a deep understanding of probability.

I guess winning the most-frequenter-poster contest and getting attention is more important than becoming proficient at your hobby.
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You have your hobbies and he has his. Who is to say if gambling is the better choice? Some might find trolling more entertaining.

Quote: OnceDear

As to 'reading randomness'? If I thought that expression had any meaning, I might be able to address that. I don't, so I can't.
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I am a little fuzzy on the meaning of the phrase myself.

However, I am pretty sure a person could have been burned as a witch in Salem if they could be proven to be practicing 'reading randomness'.

Quote: Mental

Quote: OnceDear

As to 'reading randomness'? If I thought that expression had any meaning, I might be able to address that. I don't, so I can't.
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I am a little fuzzy on the meaning of the phrase myself.

However, I am pretty sure a person could have been burned as a witch in Salem if they could be proven to be practicing 'reading randomness'.
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It's academic. I'm NOT Reading Randomness in my method, in this thread or even on this forum.

Explaining that comment would steal my own thunder.

There is much discussion of the phrase in another forum, but we're not encouraged to comment on the content of other forums. All sorts of weird 5h17 gets discussed out out there on the rest of the interwebs. Let's not pollute this bit, even in this sewer of a subforum. Not in this thread please. 'Reading Randomness' is not welcomed by me into this thread.

Reading Randomness sounds like a cool drinking game. You select forty random words from an article and use them to make an intelligent paragraph unrelated to the article. You take a shot for every word left over. If you use all forty words, you stand up and shout out Reading Randomness and everyone else takes a shot.
You get three minutes for the first round and lose ten seconds for every word left over from the previous round. Getting a perfect round results in all future rounds starting at two minutes. Greatness is penalized, not rewarded, so strategy is important, especially in the later rounds.

Quote: billryan

Reading randomness sounds like a cool drinking game. You select forty random words from an article and use them to make an intelligent paragraph unrelated to the article.. You take a shot for every word left over. Use all forty words, and everyone else takes a shot.
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Hijack forgiven, because I'm about to search for appropriate internet domain names and buy them up to promote the new online game which I'm about to devise, not at all a plagiarism of the idea being discussed $:o)

http://readingrandomness.com/


LMAO. Not taken as at this posting

Quote: OnceDear

Quote: OnceDear

I'm inclined to have a second session today, after session 4 won only half a unit. What the heck. So be it.
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OK. Session 5 completed. The game was RNG Blackjack with 20p Minimum.

A bit longer, this session comprised 17 wagers and the log extended over two pages.
I Tied 2 wagers
I won 6 wagers
I lost 9 wagers
Session Profit 20p

Sessions played 5: Sessions won 5: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%
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Some say that it is wrong or foolish to get greedy when you have a winning method.

OK. Call me wrong and foolish. But the method is foolproof, so it would be foolish to quit :o)

Session 6 just completed.
BlackJack again. Flat betting.
Tie, Lose, Win, Win for another successful session. I cannot be bothered to upload the screen garb, this time.
Like taking candy from a baby.

Sessions played 6: Sessions won 6: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

It would work just as well, scaled up to say $1,000 per wager, but these stakes are plenty when you have enough money to live well. Had my unit size been £1,000 I'd have been up by £5,500 over 4 days
Shall we sneak in another session..... Oh. All right then. You talked me round.
Note that unlike some gurus, I find plenty of winning wager opportunities.

Quote: OnceDear

Sessions played 6: Sessions won 6: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

It would work just as well, scaled up to say $1,000 per wager, but these stakes are plenty when you have enough money to live well. Had my unit size been £1,000 I'd have been up by £5,500 over 4 days
Shall we sneak in another session..... Oh. All right then. You talked me round.
Note that unlike some gurus, I find plenty of winning wager opportunities.
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LOL. Did I say. These last few wagers are at Blackjack?

So, Session 7 done and dusted.

Bet selection trigger was immediately met and I waded straight in with a one unit wager. Dealt 11, so doubled. Followed with a picture card for the win. BAM!
One wager: Two unit win

Sessions played 7: Sessions won 7: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

Profit: 7.5 units

I'm almost inclined to play the next three sessions. But I don't want to get 86'd.
PMSL

What the heck

Quote: OnceDear

Sessions played 7: Sessions won 7: Sessions lost 0: Success Rate 100%

Profit: 7.5 units

I'm almost inclined to play the next three sessions. But I don't want to get 86'd.
PMSL

What the heck
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Sessions 8 , 9, and 10 now completed. All won, of course. I'll upload the screen grabs in a moment.

Bored now!. This winning thing is just so boring. Imagine how bored you could be winning a guaranteed unit or more in every ten minute session.

Also..... I'm not seeing any problem in getting greedy. Just have absolute faith in the Method.

When we get get to the end of session 50, I'm going to reveal something that will blow your mind.

$;o)##

Quote: OnceDear

Some say that it is wrong or foolish to get greedy when you have a winning method.
]

Something you will obviously never know for sure.

Quote: Mental

Quote: OnceDear

As to 'reading randomness'? If I thought that expression had any meaning, I might be able to address that. I don't, so I can't.
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I am a little fuzzy on the meaning of the phrase myself.

okay, this should clear up what "Reading Randomness" is all about - straight from the horses mouth - the guy who has a very long multi-year long thread about it elsewhere


I'm expecting a lot of "Thank Yous" for this post - please don't disappoint me


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"1.) I have extensive experience in teaching Reading Randomness. I first needed to establish the capacity to use visual dexterity. So I had to bring that out first with your example, that assumes you could use in Baccarat?

2.) Step two is to teach the characteristics of randomness. In a sense, like reading printed text is a form of an established syntax or construct, to read randomness you must have a construct for that. I developed a bunch of characteristics to watch for over the years. You hear people all the time with formations that they like, for instance, follow the last. That's nothing more than an item in a construct. The big picture is to see formations of continuation of any kind. Once you know what to look for then you look for the quality of the formation. I see singles and double or larger almost instantly. I can see it in your example once I transformed it into a visual dexterity format.

Here is an example that I love to see. When the weak side is hit, it always hits as a single while the strong side hits always at least more than once. To take advantage of that you just ride the wave in its evident form.

3.) So you get a get-out-of-jail-free card to rob a bank. What's your complaint? It's just laying there. All it takes is being trained in order to see it. If you know you are going to win the next 10 hands, because a perfect pattern keeps repeating, then why would you let the chance pass? All it takes is a single lost bet to know it ended. Meanwhile it could pay off for the next 10 or 20 hands. All I'm saying is that along with simple characteristics there includes the Elegant Pattern. There is the Global Effect too. It can be a 85% pure characteristic that goes on and on for an hour or more. But if you can't see it then there is no way to exploit that either. It's all about reading the landscape and being aware. I'm confounded why nobody has come along and establish this construct in over 200 years of gambling. Natural randomness produces far more opportunities than counting cards does in Blackjack. But the attack principle is the same. You bet big when you are in an opportunistic phase. I specialize in micro opportunities. There are things randomness does when you can't see continuation opportunities. All this is part of my construct. It's like playing lead guitar. You know how to improvise over the key and hit key tones in sequence with the music."



now that you know all about it - now you can WIN____________and win and win and win and win


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Now, that is an outstanding example of authentic frontier gibberish. In an age where the collective world knowledge is at everyone's fingertips, people rarely have the courage to offer such a fact-free opinion. It's so 1980s.

"Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressive betting systems are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

od,
why did you capitalize the word IS in your updated sig?
i would think the word NOT would be better to emphasize if you were to emphasize anything in your sig?

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okay, this should clear up what "Reading Randomness" is all about - straight from the horses mouth - the guy who has a very long multi-year long thread about it elsewhere

I'm expecting a lot of "Thank Yous" for this post - please don't disappoint me

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"1.) I have extensive experience in teaching Reading Randomness...."

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Hi Lilredrooster. I was familiar with that quote from another place. Thanks for bringing such entertainment to this thread, though I wish you hadn't shat it here.

I forgive you the slight hijack and this is not directed at you.

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"Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressive betting systems are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free."

od,
why did you capitalize the word IS in your updated sig?
i would think the word NOT would be better to emphasize if you were to emphasize anything in your sig?
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Everyone's a critic $:o)

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Now, that is an outstanding example of authentic frontier gibberish. In an age where the collective world knowledge is at everyone's fingertips, people rarely have the courage to offer such a fact-free opinion. It's so 1980s.
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Credit where credit is due...

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... I coined the term reading randomness not him. ... Gizmo is a friend of mine very smart guy, far smarter than I am about all this.
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Can we leave "Reading Randomness" out of this thread. That gibberish has no part to play in OnceDear's Method.

I think it's clear Reading Randomness has legs and should be spun off into its own thread, if not its forum.

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Quote: billryan

Now, that is an outstanding example of authentic frontier gibberish. In an age where the collective world knowledge is at everyone's fingertips, people rarely have the courage to offer such a fact-free opinion. It's so 1980s.
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Credit where credit is due...

Quote: EvenBob

... I coined the term reading randomness not him. ... Gizmo is a friend of mine very smart guy, far smarter than I am about all this.
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Can we leave "Reading Randomness" out of this thread. That gibberish has no part to play in OnceDear's Method.
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Last comment then on reading randomness.

"Randomness"

If you just read that word in quotes then you know how to read randomness.

Forgive me OD, couldn't resist.

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I think it's clear Reading Randomness has legs and should be spun off into its own thread, if not its forum.
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There is no sewer deep enough.

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I think it's clear Reading Randomness has legs and should be spun off into its own thread, if not its forum.
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I've been doing it for 18 years. Go check out the results I'm posting it's all from reading randomness. If you don't know how to read it you're screwed all you got is blind luck

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Quote: Mental

okay, this should clear up what "Reading Randomness" is all about - straight from the horses mouth - the guy who has a very long multi-year long thread about it elsewhere

I'm expecting a lot of "Thank Yous" for this post - please don't disappoint me

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"1.) I have extensive experience in teaching Reading Randomness...."

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Hi Mental. I was familiar with that quote from another place. Thanks for bringing such entertainment to this thread, though I wish you hadn't shat it here.

I forgive you the slight hijack and this is not directed at you.

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That wasn't me. It was littleredrooster wrongly attributed to me. I dropped it when you asked me to. I am tired of it, too.

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I think it's clear Reading Randomness has legs and should be spun off into its own thread, if not its forum.
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I've been doing it for 18 years. Go check out the results I'm posting it's all from reading randomness. If you don't know how to read it you're screwed all you got is blind luck
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All I have is blind luck and a high percentage returned as free slot play. I am not screwed because I don't have to beat any game to make a profit.

All you have is a delusion. Please take you system discussion back to your own thread.

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Quote: billryan

I think it's clear Reading Randomness has legs and should be spun off into its own thread, if not its forum.
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I've been doing it for 18 years. Go check out the results I'm posting it's all from reading randomness. If you don't know how to read it you're screwed all you got is blind luck
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Adding in new casinos, hoping around from casino to casino freely with possible cherry-picked casinos, sessions, and results don't prove jack splat. With those types of protocols, It's easy to provide results that make it appear as if you are winning when in fact you aren't.

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That wasn't me. It was littleredrooster wrongly attributed to me. I dropped it when you asked me to. I am tired of it, too.
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Please accept my apologies for the mis-attribution. Fixed now.