EvenBob
Quote: SeelenrankSeeing patterns is what sets us apart from the animals
there was a study that showed crows were able to pick off the walnuts on the side of the road carefuly watching the red/green/yellow light when its safe to swoop up the walnuts off the road.
animals see patterns you are full of shiite forgive my french admin but ppl like bob and gizmo believe they can do the impossible instead of typing to the internet is better than making cash hand over fist??
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Of course, there are patterns everywhere around us and in us in life, being able to recognize them and act accordingly is a core human/animals feature.
But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise, like searching for patterns in a white noise is a known and proved fallacy that leads to nothing else but wasting time, money and brain cells.
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But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise,
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Apparently you've never played Baccarat because patterns is what triggers people to bet. Just because you can get no practical information from them doesn't mean nobody else can. Please don't judge everybody else by your limitations.
Quote: SeelenrankSeeing patterns is what sets us apart from the animals
there was a study that showed crows were able to pick off the walnuts on the side of the road carefuly watching the red/green/yellow light when its safe to swoop up the walnuts off the road.
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Wow and what have crows invented lately. Animals can see patterns in a very limited way. Humans have a superior ability to spot patterns and make them work for them.
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animals see patterns you are full of shiite forgive my french
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I never said animals don't see patterns. Who are you, you join here today and know everything about me just to tell me I'm full of crap in German? Something doesn't smell right here.
Deine Ideen stinken.Quote: EvenBobI never said animals don't see patterns. Who are you, you join here today and know everything about me just to tell me I'm full of crap in German? Something doesn't smell right here.
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: rawtuff
But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise,
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Apparently you've never played Baccarat because patterns is what triggers people to bet. Just because you can get no practical information from them doesn't mean nobody else can. Please don't judge everybody else by your limitations.
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I agree that patterns incite people to bet. My theory is that it has no effect on the next spin, but I could be wrong and someone may be able to see something that I don't. I am not going to believe it, but it may be possible. I am a big believer that until we understand everything, anything is possible.
When it comes to computers and programming I have learned that when you have asked 1, 2 or 3 computers guys, if x, y or z can be done, how long will it take, and at what cost. KEEP ASKING until you find someome that says,Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolf
Wouldn't a computer program or AI be able to do the same thing? I havr to imagine it would do a much better job than any human would.
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Programming it would be a problem because so much of this is subjective. The example I gave was not really subjective at all but a lot of them are subjective and how would you teach a computer to do that. I know somebody that does this type of method and he is also a programmer he doesn't think he can do it. He said it would take so long that he doesn't know if it would be worth it. Because what you see this time going on might not be working that's why you virtually bet. A computer is more like A happens and B happens so you bet on C. It doesn't work like that.
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"that's easy, I can have it to you in a few days."
"Don't worry about paying me, you owe me one."
"Or just share some of the profits."
But I'm not sure how that would work if it's truly "subjective". You do understand that one might think that Bob is just>>>> flying by the seat of his pants.
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But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise,
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Apparently you've never played Baccarat because patterns is what triggers people to bet. Just because you can get no practical information from them doesn't mean nobody else can. Please don't judge everybody else by your limitations.
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I agree that patterns incite people to bet. My theory is that it has no effect on the next spin, but I could be wrong and someone may be able to see something that I don't. I am not going to believe it, but it may be possible. I am a big believer that until we understand everything, anything is possible.
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Steven Hawkings
Archimedes
Albert Einstein
Galileo Galilei
Isaac Newton
Michael Faraday
Nikola Tesla
EvenBob
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rawtuff
But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise,
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Apparently you've never played Baccarat because patterns is what triggers people to bet. Just because you can get no practical information from them doesn't mean nobody else can. Please don't judge everybody else by your limitations.
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Correct. I’ve never played baccarat for the same reason I never play roulette. And anyone who thinks a pattern in baccarat gives them an advantage on their next bet is just as misguided as someone who thinks recognizing a pattern is helpful on selecting a bet in roulette.
I can't even begin to fathom all the different world-changing applications of somthing like this.
Bob, PLEASE stop being selfish and simple-minded (<<<Not meant as an insult) wasting this wonderful ability jacking around low-rolling online casinos for 50k-200k a year(if that).
You can probably vastly speed up technology, save humanity and solve many world problems by sharing your method with the world.
I'm sure someone like Elon Musk would be more than willing to set up a few online casinos just for you (with limits, of course, we can't have you accumulating all his money)
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rawtuff
But trying to find patterns where there are bound to be none, or more accurately where seed source is so deeply buried that what you see on the surface is nothing of practical value information wise,
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Apparently you've never played Baccarat because patterns is what triggers people to bet. Just because you can get no practical information from them doesn't mean nobody else can. Please don't judge everybody else by your limitations.
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Sure thing, Master. Probably hundred of thousands if not Millions of Genius people have questioned/studied the possibility of pattern recognition for roulette outcomes to predict future results at one point in their life or another, and not a single one has stepped forward with something. You are better than them all though and know how to play a virtual game in your mind that beats roulette, sure thing.
Also, I have played and studied baccarat (also roulette) among others, anyone claiming success via pattern exploitation is delusional is my humble but firm conclusion.
Would a redheaded woodpecker prefer betting on black or red?Quote: JohnzimboIf a crow is playing one roulette wheel and EB another...I would put my money on the crow :)
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Q What's the difference between EvenBob and a Woodchuck?
A: A woodchuck would bet as much wood as a woodchuck could bet If... a woodchuck could bet roulette.
Quote: AxelWolfPredicting future outcomes with 80% accuracy based on previous random events using pattern recognition (all within 20 seconds or whatever) Now just imagine that with... more time, more data, computer assistance, scientists, and mathematicians.
I can't even begin to fathom all the different world-changing applications of somthing like this.
Bob, PLEASE stop being selfish and simple-minded (<<<Not meant as an insult) wasting this wonderful ability jacking around low-rolling online casinos for 50k-200k a year(if that).
You can probably vastly speed up technology, save humanity and solve many world problems by sharing your method with the world.
I'm sure someone like Elon Musk would be more than willing to set up a few online casinos just for you (with limits, of course, we can't have you accumulating all his money)
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EvenBob is like those psychics who always give excuses about never being able to predict the lottery numbers or major world events with any accuracy.
"Oh, I could, but...."
"Nobody would listen, so why bother..."
"If I did that, then...."
He won't bet any real money because he knows he can lose.
Quote: darkozPersonally I suspect it's less based on the law and more on programming and tradition.
The Casinos just hire programming experts who have worked with slots for decades to install these systems. When asked how to handle the tax issue they probably just said, "it looks like a slot (has card readers for rewards, electronic digital screen, every transaction is logged etc), so let's just program it the way we know.
I can see yet other executive's saying let's not get in trouble with tax issues. We will deduct and report and let the players deal with it
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Don't you love it when I open a can of worms??
Suggestion: If someone gets a W2G from online gaming, hire MDawg to argue your case since he seems to believe the casinos are not following the law to the letter.
tuttigym
Quote: AxelWolfWould a redheaded woodpecker prefer betting on black or red?Quote: JohnzimboIf a crow is playing one roulette wheel and EB another...I would put my money on the crow :)
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Q What's the difference between EvenBob and a Woodchuck?
A: A woodchuck would bet as much wood as a woodchuck could bet If... a woodchuck could bet roulette.
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Man that is a good one. Gigantic LOL
tuttigym
If I'm wrong tell me and also tell me why the example I gave does not work. Because I know for a 100% fact that it does work and I will gladly go into the details. But I'm certainly not going to give other examples if nobody's going to talk about the one I gave. Why would I.
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Suggestion: If someone gets a W2G from online gaming, hire MDawg to argue your case since he seems to believe the casinos are not following the law to the letter.
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
Quote: EvenBobI love how everybody wanted me to give an example of what I do so I gave one yesterday and everybody is totally ignoring it, not screaming at me that it doesn't work or can't work, just totally ignoring that I posted it. Why is that, exactly. Why all the silence. If you think it doesn't work tell me why. My guess is you read it and thought that's not totally insane, it actually makes sense. But because I've already dug myself into a hole with my uninformed opinion, you say to yourself oh, I'll just ignore it and pretend it never happened. Even the guy who dared me to do it is not commenting on it.
If I'm wrong tell me and also tell me why the example I gave does not work. Because I know for a 100% fact that it does work and I will gladly go into the details. But I'm certainly not going to give other examples if nobody's going to talk about the one I gave. Why would I.
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Boy, are you disconnected from the reality on this one.
No one comments on it because everyone feels embarrassed on your behalf and the cringe is too strong to even bother mentioning the ridiculousness of the "method". They are being gentle about it and just facepalm in front of the screen but choose not to comment about it so far.
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tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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Seems to me if authorities wanted to insure all wins are taxed it would be deducted automatically from every win, and at the end of the year you could file a return to get the proper amount returned if applicable.
Quote: EvenBobI love how everybody wanted me to give an example of what I do so I gave one yesterday and everybody is totally ignoring it, not screaming at me that it doesn't work or can't work, just totally ignoring that I posted it. Why is that, exactly. Why all the silence. If you think it doesn't work tell me why. My guess is you read it and thought that's not totally insane, it actually makes sense. But because I've already dug myself into a hole with my uninformed opinion, you say to yourself oh, I'll just ignore it and pretend it never happened. Even the guy who dared me to do it is not commenting on it.
If I'm wrong tell me and also tell me why the example I gave does not work. Because I know for a 100% fact that it does work and I will gladly go into the details. But I'm certainly not going to give other examples if nobody's going to talk about the one I gave. Why would I.
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Bob, I did mention your example, even explicitly thanking you for doing so. I then pointed out that unless you are playing with a biased wheel, the past results or ‘patterns’ that you see in no way can get you to win 8 out of 10 predictably. Since there are those dastardly green zeros, your system can’t even get you to 1 out of 2!
Pick any number of bets over 50. Let someone trustworthy watch you. I’ll bet you any amount of money you can’t win 38 or more. Your 80% claim gets you to 40. I’d go well into 6 figures on a bet like this. Heck, I’d bet into 5 figures you can’t win 30 out of 50!
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tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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You "know" what? I have posted this before: The vast majority of people who gamble do not know they "have to report their winnings to the IRS." Those who do know also do not report their winnings to the IRS. Therefore, the IRS with their new 87,000 hires need to go into casinos across the land and screen every player as they exit the casino to audit their play and their wallets. Imagine how the U.S. debt could be eliminated in a very short time.
So, I am guessing that when you win with your free play on a weekly or daily basis, you report every dime then you produce every offset and call it a year.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigym
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tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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You "know" what? I have posted this before: The vast majority of people who gamble do not know they "have to report their winnings to the IRS." Those who do know also do not report their winnings to the IRS. Therefore, the IRS with their new 87,000 hires need to go into casinos across the land and screen every player as they exit the casino to audit their play and their wallets. Imagine how the U.S. debt could be eliminated in a very short time.
So, I am guessing that when you win with your free play on a weekly or daily basis, you report every dime then you produce every offset and call it a year.
tuttigym
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Yes, I do report my non W2G wins and I always have.
You do know that the 87,000 IRS agents will be hired over a 10 year period, right?
Quote: JohnzimboIf a crow is playing one roulette wheel and EB another...I would put my money on the crow :)
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Once I saw a flock of crows playing roulette. They were simply murdering the game.
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Bob, I did mention your example, even explicitly thanking you for doing so. I then pointed out that unless you are playing with a biased wheel, the past results or ‘patterns’ that you see in no way can get you to win 8 out of 10 predictably.
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So you read the example I gave and examined it carefully and understand it completely and your conclusion is it doesn't work. You can't explain why it doesn't work, but you just know somehow that it doesn't. This makes your opinion worthless, you realize that don't you? Unless you can explain why my example would never work you don't have an argument except for the same old tired 'you can't do this and you can't do that because that's what I heard and that's what I've been told'. As I keep saying the casino validates me every single time I win in a session which is every single time I start betting. They validate me by paying me and if I wasn't doing that I wouldn't be here talking about it. So far in this thread I have not seen one reason why my method won't work except that it goes against the tried-and-true math. The math is 100% correct there is a 50% chance rounded off that I will be wrong on every bet. But the math cannot take into consideration that I have an edge based on observation. I have been doing this for a very long time now and the casinos been paying me for a very long time and they will keep doing so as long as I keep playing. How is that possible, unless I lying about it which of course I'm not. What would be the point of that.
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tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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You "know" what? I have posted this before: The vast majority of people who gamble do not know they "have to report their winnings to the IRS." Those who do know also do not report their winnings to the IRS. Therefore, the IRS with their new 87,000 hires need to go into casinos across the land and screen every player as they exit the casino to audit their play and their wallets. Imagine how the U.S. debt could be eliminated in a very short time.
So, I am guessing that when you win with your free play on a weekly or daily basis, you report every dime then you produce every offset and call it a year.
tuttigym
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Yes, I do report my non W2G wins and I always have.
You do know that the 87,000 IRS agents will be hired over a 10 year period, right?
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That works out to 8,700/yr. Put 1,000 agents on a rotating schedule in 50 casinos as a pilot program and see how that works out. Should be fun and the casinos will love the attention and great PR.
tuttigym
Quote: EvenBobI love how everybody wanted me to give an example of what I do so I gave one yesterday and everybody is totally ignoring it, not screaming at me that it doesn't work or can't work, just totally ignoring that I posted it. Why is that, exactly. Why all the silence. If you think it doesn't work tell me why. My guess is you read it and thought that's not totally insane, it actually makes sense. But because I've already dug myself into a hole with my uninformed opinion, you say to yourself oh, I'll just ignore it and pretend it never happened. Even the guy who dared me to do it is not commenting on it.
Playing into trends/streaks/patterns is not insane. Almost everyone who plays Baccarat or Roulette does it, myself included. What's insane is your claims that you can win 100% of the time by violating the laws of mathematics.
Quote:If I'm wrong tell me and also tell me why the example I gave does not work. Because I know for a 100% fact that it does work and I will gladly go into the details. But I'm certainly not going to give other examples if nobody's going to talk about the one I gave. Why would I.
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Your system doesn't work because you can't predict future spins of a Roulette wheel based on past results. The end. Your post was exactly as I predicted when I asked you for details.
Quote: EvenBob
So you read the example I gave and examined it carefully and understand it completely and your conclusion is it doesn't work. You can't explain why it doesn't work, but you just know somehow that it doesn't.
It doesn't work because the house edge on Even money bets in Double 0 Roulette is 5.26% and it is mathematically possible to overcome that short of a biased wheel. I don't know how many times this has been explained to you.
Quote:So far in this thread I have not seen one reason why my method won't work except that it goes against the tried-and-true math.
LOL.... "The math proves my system doesn't work, but aside from that, what else have ya got?"
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Suggestion: If someone gets a W2G from online gaming, hire MDawg to argue your case since he seems to believe the casinos are not following the law to the letter.
tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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You "know" what? I have posted this before: The vast majority of people who gamble do not know they "have to report their winnings to the IRS." Those who do know also do not report their winnings to the IRS. Therefore, the IRS with their new 87,000 hires need to go into casinos across the land and screen every player as they exit the casino to audit their play and their wallets. Imagine how the U.S. debt could be eliminated in a very short time.
So, I am guessing that when you win with your free play on a weekly or daily basis, you report every dime then you produce every offset and call it a year.
tuttigym
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Yes, I do report my non W2G wins and I always have.
You do know that the 87,000 IRS agents will be hired over a 10 year period, right?
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That works out to 8,700/yr. Put 1,000 agents on a rotating schedule in 50 casinos as a pilot program and see how that works out. Should be fun and the casinos will love the attention and great PR.
tuttigym
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The IRS still hasn't processed thousands of 2020 tax returns (2020 is correct) and you think they're going to put agents in casinos?
And what are the IRS agents supposed to do in casinos?
When people cheat on their taxes they're sitting at home... not at a slot machine.
Alan, tutti,Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigymQuote: AlanMendelsonQuote: tuttigym
Suggestion: If someone gets a W2G from online gaming, hire MDawg to argue your case since he seems to believe the casinos are not following the law to the letter.
tuttigym
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It doesn't matter if you get a W2G or 1099 or not. You're supposed to report all wins.
You don't cheat on your taxes, do you?
Of course not. I know.
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You "know" what? I have posted this before: The vast majority of people who gamble do not know they "have to report their winnings to the IRS." Those who do know also do not report their winnings to the IRS. Therefore, the IRS with their new 87,000 hires need to go into casinos across the land and screen every player as they exit the casino to audit their play and their wallets. Imagine how the U.S. debt could be eliminated in a very short time.
So, I am guessing that when you win with your free play on a weekly or daily basis, you report every dime then you produce every offset and call it a year.
tuttigym
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Yes, I do report my non W2G wins and I always have.
You do know that the 87,000 IRS agents will be hired over a 10 year period, right?
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That works out to 8,700/yr. Put 1,000 agents on a rotating schedule in 50 casinos as a pilot program and see how that works out. Should be fun and the casinos will love the attention and great PR.
tuttigym
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The IRS still hasn't processed thousands of 2020 tax returns (2020 is correct) and you think they're going to put agents in casinos?
And what are the IRS agents supposed to do in casinos?
When people cheat on their taxes they're sitting at home... not at a slot machine.
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Please STOP with the hijack. Take your off-topic discussion somewhere else.
Now THAT guy saw patterns
Quote: TigerWuYour system doesn't work because you can't predict future spins of a Roulette wheel based on past results.
Wrong. And I don't use a system I use a method and I don't make predictions I make educated guesses. Roulette is unpredictable, I totally agree. Weathermen make predictions, I make educated guesses and I'm right far more often then I'm wrong because I know how to read the past spins they give me indications of what's coming up sometimes. That's the key word everybody overlooks, sometimes. Not even close to all the time, not even close to most of the time, just sometimes. If you could see me play you would see me not betting far far far far far more often then betting.
Quote:It doesn't work because the house edge on Even money bets in Double 0 Roulette is 5.26%
That's it, that's all you've got, the pathetic 'nobody beats the house edge'? The house edge is the starting point it's not the ending point. The house edge is determined by betting randomly against random outcomes.. As soon as you stop betting randomly you can whittle away at the house edge until you're the one that has the edge if you are doing it correctly. But if your attitude is the house edge is written in stone you're screwed before you ever begin. Your attitude will be why bother even trying.
So you asked me to post an example and I posted a good one, and your whole argument of why it won't work is tired platitudes and worn-out generalities. You cannot go in and do a step-by-step detailed analysis of my example and explain to me why it won't work because you have no idea what you're looking at. That's what's so entertaining about this, you have no idea what you're dealing with with but you think you're an expert.. Just the same as those doctors in the example I gave about the doctor who discovered hand washing in the hospital. They had no idea the science behind this discovery but they were so smart they knew it had to be wrong. I challenge anybody here to go step by step through the example I gave and tell me the reasons why it absolutely will not work. I guarantee all I'll get out of this is the sound of crickets. Because nobody here knows why it won't work they just know it won't. Which is the same as not knowing anything at all. For every point you can make, if you knew how, to why it won't work, I have an excellent counter argument as to why it will and does work because I do it everyday, and I figured it out a long time ago. And the casino pays me for showing it to them which validates me every time I play.
Quote: TigerWu
EvenBob is like those psychics who always give excuses about never being able to predict the lottery numbers or major world events with any accuracy.
"Oh, I could, but...."
"Nobody would listen, so why bother..."
"If I did that, then...."
He won't bet any real money because he knows he can lose.
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What are you talking about I bet real money every single day. What a ridiculous thing to say. What do you think you bet in the casino, lollipops and marshmallows? Of course I know that I can lose, but I'll just bet again till I'm one unit ahead to win the session.
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The IRS still hasn't processed thousands of 2020 tax returns (2020 is correct) and you think they're going to put agents in casinos?
And what are the IRS agents supposed to do in casinos?
When people cheat on their taxes they're sitting at home... not at a slot machine.
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I know and yet I still had to file my quarterly estimated payment yesterday. Why can't they let me wait two years.
Quote: EvenBobYou cannot go in and do a step-by-step detailed analysis of my example and explain to me why it won't work because you have no idea what you're looking at.
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I don't need a step-by-step detailed analysis to debunk your system.
There's actually a very simple explanation as to why it doesn't work; you can't overcome the house edge at Roulette.
That's it. That's your detailed analysis.
Quote: EvenBob
What are you talking about I bet real money every single day. What a ridiculous thing to say. What do you think you bet in the casino, lollipops and marshmallows? Of course I know that I can lose, but I'll just bet again till I'm one unit ahead to win the session.
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"Of course I can lose, but I'll just keep gambling until I win!"
At first I thought you were being serious but now I'm like 85% convinced this whole thing is just one elaborate troll thread.
LOL
Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobYou cannot go in and do a step-by-step detailed analysis of my example and explain to me why it won't work because you have no idea what you're looking at.
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I don't need a step-by-step detailed analysis to debunk your system.
There's actually a very simple explanation as to why it doesn't work; you can't overcome the house edge at Roulette.
That's it. That's your detailed analysis.
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It's a cop-out and you know it, LOL. You cannot and will not give a detailed analysis of why my example won't work because you don't have the vaguest idea what you're looking at. You do not have clue one as to what that example is so you're going to tap dance and make excuses and pretend you know what you're talking about. Just admit it, you're only repeating platitudes that you've heard from people who heard them from somebody else. You have no argument and it becomes more obvious with every empty post you make that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote: DRichQuote: AlanMendelson
The IRS still hasn't processed thousands of 2020 tax returns (2020 is correct) and you think they're going to put agents in casinos?
And what are the IRS agents supposed to do in casinos?
When people cheat on their taxes they're sitting at home... not at a slot machine.
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I know and yet I still had to file my quarterly estimated payment yesterday. Why can't they let me wait two years.
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Quit trying to get business deductions from your tater tot and gas station hot dog consumption. The irs's not going to fall for that anymore.
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He wouldn't do that. DRich is no small potatoes.
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It's a cop-out and you know it, LOL. You cannot and will not give a detailed analysis of why my example won't work because you don't have the vaguest idea what you're looking at. You do not have clue one as to what that example is so you're going to tap dance and make excuses and pretend you know what you're talking about. Just admit it, you're only repeating platitudes that you've heard from people who heard them from somebody else. You have no argument and it becomes more obvious with every empty post you make that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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"The immutable laws of mathematics are a cop-out!" - Even "Gambler's Fallacy" Bob
I don't need a detailed analysis or platitudes or any kind of argument. You can't overcome the house edge at Roulette. It just doesn't get any simpler than that.
Quote: UsernameRemorseThank you for sharing your example with us, EvenmoneyBob. Not to get too personal, but do you ever see and successfully act upon patterns in other areas of your life?
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If you look for them patterns are everywhere in all aspects of your life.
Quote: UsernameRemorseQuit trying to get business deductions from your tater tot and gas station hot dog consumption. The irs's not going to fall for that anymore.
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He wouldn't do that. DRich is no small potatoes.
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No big potato deductions either.
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It's a cop-out and you know it, LOL. You cannot and will not give a detailed analysis of why my example won't work because you don't have the vaguest idea what you're looking at. You do not have clue one as to what that example is so you're going to tap dance and make excuses and pretend you know what you're talking about. Just admit it, you're only repeating platitudes that you've heard from people who heard them from somebody else. You have no argument and it becomes more obvious with every empty post you make that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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"The immutable laws of mathematics are a cop-out!" - Even "Gambler's Fallacy" Bob
I don't need a detailed analysis or platitudes or any kind of argument. You can't overcome the house edge at Roulette. It just doesn't get any simpler than that.
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Just admit it, you cannot do a detailed analysis because you don't have the vaguest foggiest tiniest idea of what you're looking at in that example. To you it's all gobbledygook nonsense that you can just wave your hand at and dismiss. You're just another prisoner of mathematic dogma.
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Just admit it, you cannot do a detailed analysis because you don't have the vaguest foggiest tiniest idea of what you're looking at in that example. To you it's all gobbledygook nonsense that you can just wave your hand at and dismiss. You're just another prisoner of mathematic dogma.
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I don't need to do a detailed analysis.
You can't overcome the house edge in Roulette, nor can you predict future spins based on past results.
It doesn't get any simpler than that.
Your posts in this thread are getting kind of sad... you should probably quit while you're behind.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBob
It's a cop-out and you know it, LOL. You cannot and will not give a detailed analysis of why my example won't work because you don't have the vaguest idea what you're looking at. You do not have clue one as to what that example is so you're going to tap dance and make excuses and pretend you know what you're talking about. Just admit it, you're only repeating platitudes that you've heard from people who heard them from somebody else. You have no argument and it becomes more obvious with every empty post you make that you have no idea what you're talking about.
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"The immutable laws of mathematics are a cop-out!" - Even "Gambler's Fallacy" Bob
I don't need a detailed analysis or platitudes or any kind of argument. You can't overcome the house edge at Roulette. It just doesn't get any simpler than that.
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Just admit it, you cannot do a detailed analysis because you don't have the vaguest foggiest tiniest idea of what you're looking at in that example. To you it's all gobbledygook nonsense that you can just wave your hand at and dismiss. You're just another prisoner of mathematic dogma.
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Why not just post betting results (directly from the sites betting history) and deposit/withdrawal history?
If you have daily betting history for the last two years, that is at least enough to give some history to show there may be something there. Daily history for two years, is not the same as endless sims, but its a decent sample (especially if you withdraw an 80%+ profit daily with no promos).
Quote:A block pattern might look like this BBBRRBBBBRRRBB Etc.
There is a 47.37% chance the next color will be Red.
There is a 47.37% chance the next color will be Black.
There is a 5.26% chance the next color will be Green.
There is nothing you can do to change those percentages.
There is nothing you can do to predict what the next color will be.
Do you get it yet? I don't know if I can dumb it down any more than that...
Just to clarify, sometimes you see a situation and when you see that situation and bet it you win a coin toss bet (ignoring green) doubling your money 80% of the time.Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWuYour system doesn't work because you can't predict future spins of a Roulette wheel based on past results.
Wrong. And I don't use a system I use a method and I don't make predictions I make educated guesses. Roulette is unpredictable, I totally agree. Weathermen make predictions, I make educated guesses and I'm right far more often then I'm wrong because I know how to read the past spins they give me indications of what's coming up sometimes. That's the key word everybody overlooks, sometimes. Not even close to all the time, not even close to most of the time, just sometimes. If you could see me play you would see me not betting far far far far far more often then betting.
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Just to clarify, sometimes you see a situation and when you see that situation and bet it you win a coin toss bet (ignoring green) doubling your money 80% of the time.
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And, by his own admission, if he loses, he just chases his losses until he's winning again... LOL... It can't fail!
