bogdanm
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January 17th, 2022 at 5:38:36 PM permalink
Hello,

I`ve lost some money due to gambling and I`m looking for a system that actually makes me money. I do have some products that I`ve bought and can share in exchange for some other ebooks the problems is that mine just don`t work so is there anybody here who is willing to leak or at least point me in the right direction to buy a good betting systems?
Romes
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January 17th, 2022 at 5:50:31 PM permalink
As you mentioned the things that you've purchased haven't worked for you. They more than likely don't work (winners don't sell their secrets too often) but without knowing the systems we cannot tell you one way or another. You might strike more connections, and conversations, if you shared the systems so they could be properly analyzed and debunked, or we could even tell you to stick with one of them if it happens to be proven a mathematical winner (which I'd doubt, but hey you never know).

Past that, there are a tremendous amount of articles, threads, and posts that give a whole hell of a lot away on ways to win inside of a casino. I'd recommend finding educated posters that others also respect and going through their threads/posts and learning that way. I literally read every single post, of every single article, of every single thread on blackjack on the blackjack forum, and WoV when I started out. It's amazing the little puzzle pieces you pick up in one thread and 20 threads later how it'll relate or answer another question in another.

Past that, the only way to exchange worthwhile secrets is to have worthwhile secrets to exchange. A lot of people starting out often find themselves in the same pinch of not having info to trade for info. Then, based on your drive to win inside a casino, the next steps are left to the player wanting to win. If you want a system that is 100% proven to win inside a casino, then look no further than counting cards. There are hundreds of thousands of FREE pages of literature on the topic online, I would suggest sticking to prominent sites such as BJ21, wizard of odds/vegas, blackjack apprenticeship, blackjack the forum, etc. I would also recommend books on the topic such as Playing Blackjack as a Business by Lawrence Revere, Beat the Dealer by Ed Thorp, The Blackjack Life by Nathaniel Tilton, and there are so many more (again that you can find in posts here on this very site even). I also posted 3 articles on "A to Z" counting cards in blackjack that are in the articles section of this very site:

https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-in-Blackjack/
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-In-Blackjack-2/
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/A-to-Z-Counting-Cards-in-Blackjack-3/

I've also tutored dozens of students of the game for free via the private messaging feature of this very site. Feel free to reach out with followup questions, though I'll warn you if you message and say "okay how do I win?" without doing your own research/practice then FYI the first response will be to go research and practice on your own =D.

The path is different for everyone, but I started with blackjack, worked to team blackjack, then got more curious, did more research and found other edges can be had. Then I started looking for those other edges and was lucky enough to find them, and the ball rolled from there. I didn't have anyone teach me blackjack or show me any of the other opportunities. The only reason I mention that is to tell everyone it's quite possible to do it "mostly" on your own. I was fortunate enough to have other more educated posters and members (at meetups/etc) give me breadcrumbs here and there to help me along my way... which is why I don't mind dropping the same breadcrumbs for those with real interest moving forward. Always pay it forward. Good luck.
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January 17th, 2022 at 7:18:52 PM permalink
Quote: bogdanm

Hello,

I`ve lost some money due to gambling and I`m looking for a system that actually makes me money. I do have some products that I`ve bought and can share in exchange for some other ebooks the problems is that mine just don`t work so is there anybody here who is willing to leak or at least point me in the right direction to buy a good betting systems?
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I would suggest getting a new job that pays you more or finding a hobby by you enjoy. Time at the casino rarely works out, since there are no betting systems that work.


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billryan
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January 17th, 2022 at 10:49:47 PM permalink
Work on beating the casino, not the games.
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January 18th, 2022 at 1:18:34 AM permalink
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Work on beating the casino, not the games.
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Exactly. or more explicitly, beat the marketing department. There is no system that will beat casino games.
You have been suckered if you bought any systems.
What you have lost and what you have wasted on products, is sunk cost. Don't throw good money after bad.
Even if you found a system that gave you an edge, you would probably still lose as addiction gets a grip.

Seriously... Forget about winning in a casino.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
Marcusclark66
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January 18th, 2022 at 1:24:54 AM permalink
Just curious.

But when one does win, why do so many of you become upset and set out for whip down by attempted humiliation?

Kind of like watching a LA Rams football player intercept the ball near the end zone, turn around and run it a few yards for a touchdown. Then the Cardinals fan screams that guy sucks, F****ing no talent just got lucky! No sir, that Rams player has huge talent and did what your team couldn’t do!
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January 18th, 2022 at 2:01:53 AM permalink
Quote: Marcusclark66

Just curious.

But when one does win, why do so many of you become upset and set out for whip down by attempted humiliation?
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If someone does win, it is usually based on luck.

If someone boasts about it, it is often because they've deluded themselves into thinking that their intellect and gumption had something to do with a few lucky turns of the cards.

If we can rattle their delusion before they lose all that sweet pure win money chasing Lady Luck, it may save some serious trouble. If we can save some reader in a desperate sithation from losing the last of their grocery money to a system seller or a game that is inherently stacked against them, that's a job well done.


I have nothing against straight gambling or winning by dumb luck.
I have a strong opposition to losing money someone can't afford to play in the first place.

Results not typical. Consult your statistician.
May the cards fall in your favor.
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January 18th, 2022 at 2:03:34 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Quote: billryan

Work on beating the casino, not the games.
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Seriously... Forget about winning in a casino.
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Pitiful answer, shame, shame, shame!
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January 18th, 2022 at 2:49:45 AM permalink
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Seriously... Forget about winning in a casino.
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Pitiful answer, shame, shame, shame!
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Do you really think so DeMango? My answer was direct to the OP based on his post.

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I`ve lost some money due to gambling
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Strike one. Gambling has been a problem to him.
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...and I`m looking for a system that actually makes me money.

Strike two. He believes that more gambling is the answer.
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I do have some products that I`ve bought

Strike three. He is the perfect mark for con men or shysters
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... point me in the right direction to buy a good betting systems?

Strike four. For all his research, he still expects the Holy Grail to be handed to him.

And strike five.... If you can have strikes four and five, two minutes later, he is here answering his own question, touting a great baccarat system that he's heard of.

If we charitably accept that his whole reason to be here is NOT to spam us promoting that baccarat system, then he is exactly the kind of soft target that casinos and snake oil salesmen ( and indirectly us APs) will eat for breakfast. It would be irresponsible for us wiser folk to fail to recognise that he needs wising up..... and maybe even remind him that in feeding his money to the casinos, he is putting his money indirectly into the pockets of advantage players. He has some advice. His call if he now takes it. Or maybe he will listen to our very own resident gurus and get fabulously rich by wagering $100 on baccarat. A fool and his money are soon parted, but I cut this OP a break. What he does with it is down to him.
Beware. The earth is NOT flat. Hit and run is not a winning strategy: Pressing into trends IS not a winning strategy: Progressives are not a winning strategy: Don't Buy It! .Don't even take it for free.
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January 18th, 2022 at 3:22:58 AM permalink
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Kind of like watching a LA Rams football player intercept the ball near the end zone, turn around and run it a few yards for a touchdown. Then the Cardinals fan screams that guy sucks, F****ing no talent just got lucky! No sir, that Rams player has huge talent and did what your team couldn’t do!




terrible, terrible analogy
the player that you refer to made it to the NFL and made a great play - he no doubt has a high skill level

you and the one you admire so much do a tremendous amount of bragging but you have shown 𝙖𝙗𝙨𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙚𝙡𝙮 𝙯𝙚𝙧𝙤 skills that would enable you to be a long term winner

if you have indeed won big as you claim - congratulations - it's something to be happy about

but the wins came from luck - not skill

that is the belief of just about everyone here

if in the future you clearly describe exactly what skills that you have that caused your winnings I will retract my statements

that is highly unlikely - as you have not shown in any of your postings that you have any significant knowledge of Advantage Play



Edit: another reason your analogy is terrible - you write - "Kind of like 𝙬𝙖𝙩𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙜"

nobody here 𝙬𝙖𝙩𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙙 you do anything

all we did was read your posts bragging about it


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