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February 1st, 2023 at 9:45:35 PM permalink
Day 7 play.

Baccarat.

Actually, really nice work. Way to go! no really big bets needed, either.

+22000

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February 3rd, 2023 at 7:59:53 AM permalink
Day 8 play.

Baccarat.

I got creamed one session. But then I won more than I had lost in a re-match.

+6800

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February 3rd, 2023 at 8:01:16 AM permalink
On one of the recent sessions, I was down...mmm, about -75K. I rallied, quickly at first, then gradually, to end the session at +55K. Easier somehow to do when you have to!

And that entire 130K came from just...20K.
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February 3rd, 2023 at 8:10:34 AM permalink
It's always good hitting the casinos up for smash!

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February 3rd, 2023 at 8:25:33 AM permalink


Here, Gregory Peck’s character Fedya (based on Dostoevsky himself through his work The Gambler), saves a despondent gambler from committing suicide, by giving him money to get on a train, leave the town where the casino is located and return home. But the man gets off the train and returns to the casino, doubling his bet on roulette red until it becomes a small fortune, but keeps pushing until he loses it all. And then commits the suicide that it turns out was not averted, but simply delayed.

This is an example of what I’ve always said gets so many high rollers (and not the house edge), pushing and doubling the bet in an attempt to win back everything lost all at once. Risk of Ruin, you quite understand.
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February 3rd, 2023 at 9:11:45 PM permalink
Day 9 play.

Baccarat.

Was a bad one. No recovery.

-28000

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February 3rd, 2023 at 9:12:05 PM permalink
Day 10 play.

Baccarat.

Tough going but made some progress.

+8200

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February 4th, 2023 at 6:40:48 PM permalink
Day 11 play.

DD Blackjack.

Monster run, never bet over 5K but was really smashing them.

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February 6th, 2023 at 7:49:12 AM permalink
Day 12 play

DD Blackjack.

Multiple sessions.

+11000

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February 7th, 2023 at 2:23:03 PM permalink
I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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February 8th, 2023 at 9:10:16 AM permalink
The latest Vegas trip has been concluded.
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February 8th, 2023 at 9:45:45 AM permalink
Congratulations on another very successful trip Mdawg !
When it happens frequently and in spite of expected bad runs , which you handle quite skillfully, one may be inclined to wonder if there's "something more" to what Mdawg is doing .
Great Job!.
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February 8th, 2023 at 8:18:30 PM permalink
Thanks!

I went back to playing more DD Blackjack at some points during the trip, and I definitely varied the bet quite a bit.

What was crazy was during one session a pit boss called out "All in!" on a certain hand which actually I was reaching for the chips at the same moment the pit boss said that, but this particularly dealer was dealing to me so fast (one on one, private table) that I didn't have time to place the table max chips down. Sure enough, Blackjack!

It was at an obvious moment when the count was high, among other things.

I actually took it easier on Blackjack than usual, varying my bet only, say...with a 20X or so spread, but I got most of the biguns.

That negotiated dealer stands on soft 17 rule helped me out on some hands.

For whatever reason(s) I feel more comfortable laying out the ridiculously large bets at Bacc, but as I get back into more Blackjack, that may change. My DD table is entirely hand shuffled.
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February 9th, 2023 at 2:48:13 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Thanks!

I went back to playing more DD Blackjack at some points during the trip, and I definitely varied the bet quite a bit.

What was crazy was during one session a pit boss called out "All in!" on a certain hand which actually I was reaching for the chips at the same moment the pit boss said that, but this particularly dealer was dealing to me so fast (one on one, private table) that I didn't have time to place the table max chips down. Sure enough, Blackjack!

It was at an obvious moment when the count was high, among other things.

I actually took it easier on Blackjack than usual, varying my bet only, say...with a 20X or so spread, but I got most of the biguns.

That negotiated dealer stands on soft 17 rule helped me out on some hands.

For whatever reason(s) I feel more comfortable laying out the ridiculously large bets at Bacc, but as I get back into more Blackjack, that may change. My DD table is entirely hand shuffled.
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How many hands are dealt before a re-shuffle, and have you ever been injured playing cards like a torn labrum or dislocated shoulder?

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February 9th, 2023 at 5:00:47 PM permalink
One on one, a lot of hands are dealt before a shuffle, but the better question is...how much of the deck do they cut away before dealing? Given that they always cut away some, you will never have the full advantage that you might expect which is why other Advantage tactics come into Play besides just counting.

I might get excited at winning a special limits blackjack or double down but not enough to dislocate my shoulder.

One thing you definitely don't want to do is purposefully not push any advantage that you might have. Take all you can, when you can. When your number's up, you'll regret not having taken everything you could have.
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February 9th, 2023 at 6:12:33 PM permalink
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One thing you definitely don't want to do is purposefully not push any advantage that you might have. Take all you can, when you can. When your number's up, you'll regret not having taken everything you could have.
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This may be true for you, but CERTAINLY not for he rest of the card counters in the world.

I once had a dealer that was frequently making his hole card visible. I felt if I hit my hard 19 against the dealers known 20 once that would be the last hand I’d play with that dealer. I could just hit a 10 instead of doubling when the dealer has a 6 ( with a ‘hidden’ 4) as that is not egregious. Or stand on 16 when dealer has a 7 (with hidden 8). But certain plays ANNOUNCE you are seeing the dealer’s card. No reason to make that announcement.
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February 10th, 2023 at 8:43:18 AM permalink
In what situation was the dealer showing his hole card? Was it at a low limit table? I have been at relatively low limit tables where the dealer flat out turns over his hole card, with full house approval, just for fun. Doesn't do it that often, but does do it.

So by the same token, unless you were really making some money I doubt anyone would have cared about what was going on to the extent of figuring out that you were winning a few red chips due to a weak dealer - to the extent of that ONE HAND would have caused any ruckus. Now, you give an extreme example - hitting 19, that's just bad odds anyway, so yes, I'd agree that the tiny chance of getting an ace or two would be eclipsed by the possibility of revealing either that you were a bad player (which would be a good thing in that situation anyway) or that the dealer was weak.

But I'll tell you what, if I had a huge bet on that hand that was larger than most of my other bets I wouldn't care about anything other than trying to win that hand.

By the way, as far as your ratholing chips - I was watching a recent high limit Baccarat table, just tracking it, and a player left the table with no chips and asked the pit boss to mark it on the way out. After a few minutes, the pit boss had counted the table and laughed, saying "They think they're slick with putting those chips in their pockets" and obviously had figured out exactly what the player had walked with.
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February 10th, 2023 at 11:30:32 AM permalink
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In what situation was the dealer showing his hole card? Was it at a low limit table? I have been at relatively low limit tables where the dealer flat out turns over his hole card, with full house approval, just for fun. Doesn't do it that often, but does do it.

So by the same token, unless you were really making some money I doubt anyone would have cared about what was going on to the extent of figuring out that you were winning a few red chips due to a weak dealer - to the extent of that ONE HAND would have caused any ruckus. Now, you give an extreme example - hitting 19, that's just bad odds anyway, so yes, I'd agree that the tiny chance of getting an ace or two would be eclipsed by the possibility of revealing either that you were a bad player (which would be a good thing in that situation anyway) or that the dealer was weak.

But I'll tell you what, if I had a huge bet on that hand that was larger than most of my other bets I wouldn't care about anything other than trying to win that hand.

By the way, as far as your ratholing chips - I was watching a recent high limit Baccarat table, just tracking it, and a player left the table with no chips and asked the pit boss to mark it on the way out. After a few minutes, the pit boss had counted the table and laughed, saying "They think they're slick with putting those chips in their pockets" and obviously had figured out exactly what the player had walked with.
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It was a low limit table. And I was ‘poor’ at the time. I was betting $5 -$10 a hand. (30 ish years ago?). There was a ‘big’ player betting $25- $50. I had a sense that there was collusion going on between that player and the dealer, and I was just getting the luck of sitting at that table. I won a small amount (30$?) and just felt uncomfortable and left.

I stand by my assertion that at my low limit Pai Gow tables that I can rathole a few hundred $$$ and not be noticed. You often mention people who don’t play your high limit action don’t understand what happens at your tables. I’ll say the same thing about you at my low limit tables!

Big win for me yesterday. $150ish. My buddy was getting GREAT hands. He won over $600. This playing $25 Pai Gow. If you were playing you would have made 6 figures. Only 2 hours!
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February 10th, 2023 at 6:11:30 PM permalink
There are times that I wish I had bet a LOT more. Many times. And sometimes, I am betting big enough at the right time.

There should be a "Call MDawg alert" hotline - 1-800-BIG DAWG - when things are happening, Better Call MDawg! and he'll be there with enough cash or credit to take full Advantage of the situation! A perennial stand in Big Player.

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February 11th, 2023 at 12:25:01 AM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where AP’s in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told it’s be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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February 11th, 2023 at 5:53:53 AM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where AP’s in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told it’s be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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Welcome to the forum.

MDawg…. How many of these drawings would you say you’ve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
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February 11th, 2023 at 6:22:05 AM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where AP’s in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told it’s be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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NEW BLOOD!!!!!!

Yeah, it was really needed since it's getting really stale up in here.

If you think this claim is unbelievable/highly unlikely, you haven't seen anything yet. The "I won in every drawing" claim is actually one of the more believable claims compared to the many others. You would have to go back to the beginning and view multiple forums to get the big picture.

You can start here https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/36485-60-winning-hands-in-a-row/
While that isn't even close to the beginning, I would like to give you some continued laughs.

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When I used to play hand shuffled doubledeck Blackjack I'd feel as though the cards were "stuck" for a while after the decks were changed. By stuck I mean, not contributing to much wins for me no matter what the count.
Also, one night when I was beating the h out of the house at single deck, won sixty some hands in a row, they kept changing decks (although this had zero effect, I just kept winning every single hand anyway, that night), but it goes to show that even the house thinks that changing the deck lends to eliminating a player win streak.

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After the math was done(as if we needed any math to realize the absurdity of such a claim)Mike let him off the hook since he used the word SOME (won sixty some). Of course, whenever most people use that term in the way he did, it actually means more than 60. I.E. you lost count after 60 so it could have been 62, 65, 66, 61.... etc. And let us not miss what he titled the thread "60 WINNING HANDS IN A ROW"


Even if we were to lower it to 40-50 or if we added in a few losses during the 60 it's still an astonishingly outrageous claim. Perhaps he only won money in SOME 5 drawings.
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The Venetian, don't get me started. The ticket palming was just the thing that got exposed(not at the Venetian, but I have caught employees palming drawing tickets), but much more was going on at the Venetian.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:20:03 AM permalink
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I was asked to visit here to talk


By whom?
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:30:18 AM permalink
It's really not that hard to jack the bet up and win more often than not on Advantage hands whatever the table game. Just a question of whether you are willing to do it, and have the bankroll to maintain the play long enough to reap the inevitable benefit.

Everyone knows MDawg wins. Just that a few are bothered by it, others are not.

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MDawg…. How many of these drawings would you say you’ve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
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If I mentioned the exact number, anyone who is truly a Vegas resident and truly participates in any kind of high level Vegas casino action reading this forum could figure out exactly who I am, because this streak has been the topic of some discussion among a number of people.

Which gets back to that I don't believe that AxelWolf (or this new guy who claims that he is new anyway) have much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if they did, they would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. They obviously don't.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:31:13 AM permalink
If there's 10 bingo games on a casino tour bus amongst 40 passengers, what is the likelihood of one passenger winning a bingo game on 5 bus trips in a row? I'm gonna say it's very lucky but not impossible.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:32:59 AM permalink
Well that's a 1/40 per game. What if there were only 5 passengers each trip.
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February 11th, 2023 at 9:35:24 AM permalink
It was a 90 minute bus ride, we keep playing bingo for $5 be back prizes.
If there were only 5 passengers, the bus tour would no longer be. The bus tours must be near capacity to be booked, 2/3rds full a likely minimum because somebody has to pay for the bus.
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:17:50 AM permalink
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It's really not that hard to jack the bet up and win more often than not on Advantage hands whatever the table game. Just a question of whether you are willing to do it, and have the bankroll to maintain the play long enough to reap the inevitable benefit.

Everyone knows MDawg wins. Just that a few are bothered by it, others are not.

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MDawg…. How many of these drawings would you say you’ve participated in that you have never lost one? Do you think that everyone wins something on some of them?
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If I mentioned the exact number, anyone who is truly a Vegas resident and truly participates in any kind of high level Vegas casino action reading this forum could figure out exactly who I am, because this streak has been the topic of some discussion among a number of people.

Which gets back to that I don't believe that AxelWolf (or this new guy who claims that he is new anyway) have much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if they did, they would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. They obviously don't.
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I have no clue who the new guy is, or maybe I do, I don't F'n know.

If he knows The Wizard and he has been in Vegas Advantage Playing for a long time, there's a good chance I know him. Heck, there's a chance I had drinks with someome and WOV/WOO/The Wizard came up and I mentioned there's some ____________ making outrageous claims on WOV. I just can't imagine any AP I know would take the time to make an account just to post here on this type of nonsense. I have a feeling it might be someone that KJ knows.

Anyways, I do know that casinos are not rolling out the red carpet for players who have been beating them up year after year at just a few locations using advanced Advantage Play methods such as you claim, especially if what you are saying is true and the pit bosses know you and they know you are consistently winning.
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:23:46 AM permalink
Starve a troll and feed a fever, or is it the other way around?
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:30:50 AM permalink
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I just can't imagine any AP I know would take the time
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Which gets back to that I don't believe that this new guy who claims that he is new anyway has much to do with the high end Vegas casinos, because if he did, he would know something about what is going on, and has been going on. He obviously doesn't.


Aren't we saying the same thing?
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February 11th, 2023 at 11:32:31 AM permalink
I've talked privately with some and actually posted obliquely about why MDawg might be allowed free rein. It comes down to that there is a net positive for the casinos even if there is a net negative for them when it comes specifically to me.

As far as why I won the drawings, it was just luck. Many speculate about that there is a light to MDawg which brings down all good fortune on him, and of course I just smile and nod, but bottom line is that some people have good luck in their lives and others do not.

Participation in the drawings is simply based on high end play and for most of the drawings, being present to win.
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February 11th, 2023 at 1:09:55 PM permalink
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I've talked privately with some and actually posted obliquely about why MDawg might be allowed free rein. It comes down to that there is a net positive for the casinos even if there is a net negative for them when it comes specifically to me.

As far as why I won the drawings, it was just luck. Many speculate about that there is a light to MDawg which brings down all good fortune on him, and of course I just smile and nod, but bottom line is that some people have good luck in their lives and others do not.

Participation in the drawings is simply based on high end play and for most of the drawings, being present to win.
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Until you tell us (approximately) how many of these drawings you have been in winning ‘ALL’ is meaningless. If it’s 10 a year for the last 5 years just give us ‘an around 50’. You’ve given an example of ‘around 10 out of 50 won’ if I remember correctly. If you say 42 since you joined WoV, I can assure you that will not be a clue to your identity!!!
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February 11th, 2023 at 2:16:13 PM permalink
Single digits. But already enough that people are saying, Damn! not only this guy wins at the tables but the drawings and tournaments too.
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February 11th, 2023 at 4:07:44 PM permalink
I suspect there are a lot of shenanigans when it comes to drawing ticket promotions in Vegas. Shortly after the Venetian incident, I was speaking to a president of table games at a competing casino, which shall not be named, about it. He/she said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We all do that. It's easy, just palm the ticket you want to win."
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February 11th, 2023 at 4:40:43 PM permalink
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I have now won something (anywhere from a few grand to mid five figure grand) in EVERY SINGLE DRAWING I have participated in in Vegas. All free entry, although a couple did require some play over a period of time prior to the drawing. Most required to be present to win anything, although one did not.

These are drawing for the ultra elite where there are around fifty participants, and usually ten prizes, so the odds of getting something are actually pretty good.
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I was asked to visit here to talk about a recent claim that went unchallenged. The claim is this individual has never lost a casino drawing, which we all dream could be possible. The claim is these are elite drawings with 50 entires and 10 winners. Or a 20% chance of winning in any drawers if the odds of winning are balanced. If this is the case and the claimant has entered 5 drawings lifetime the odds of winning in all 5 are 1 in 3125. Possible in a rare occurrence but most will say not likely. If he has entered 10 drawings with the same odds of winning the odds go up to 1 in almost 10,000,000.

Next we examine if these drawings are biased toward certain individuals legally or in the case of the Venetian situation years ago, illegally. This can be done by giving certain individuals far more entries to give desired customers better odds of winning. In this case you have a claim of 50 of the casinos Elite highest rollers in a drawing. Even in this situation some players are more importantly financially to the casino and drawings could used as an incentive to return losses to a player or encourage them to return.

In what case can anyone see a casino rewarding a player in this manner who claims to win on every trip? A player who claims to win hundreds of thousands during each trip which add up to annual 7 figure wins? Or would it make more sense to return some losses to a high roller in these drawings? Why would a casino provide incentives to a player who claims to win consistency and says the casinos even tell him he never loses? Any why is a casino allowing a player to spread 20-1 or more on DDBJ at high counts?

As we are not contesting the players claims in which case either he is beating the odds on these drawings or we have a situation where AP’s in Vegas need to be looking at these drawings closer for potential. And everything we based our play on considering sweat was a misgiving nightmare in our minds.

I am a first time member here who lives in Vegas and knows how things work in this town. Many here know me or know of me including Shack. I was directed to these claims over drinks recently and after first laughing saying everyone was in on it, I was told it’s be going on for years. I was told to make sure this post follows the stated rules of this forum under the basis of debating the claim and not the individual. My IP will prove I am local and not hiding behind any hanky panky
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So would you take a bet that I Could show you someone who has won something in every single drawling they have participate in ?
Well over 10 in a year !

What about me showing you two different people at two different properties who have done the same ?

I will even give you one of the casino names

Borgata AC

The other casino is in Michigan.

You pick the casino that I must verify my claims.

Let’s actually bet on something. It’s clear there seems to be a disconnect with actual advantage players who are in the casino, and ones who ONLY work through the math at home. This seems to be a growing trend.

Listen I don’t know anything about MDawg, but when I see math experts who state something so absurdly false I can’t help myself.

Some of you are so hellbent on proving Mdawg wrong that you Kling to anyone with a view to support it.

There are actually people who do what they say, the rest seem to be armchair QBs with theory's they really don’t understand.

Its rather disappointing to completely Honest. It seems
We have a growing community of touts, charlatans, and straight made up online personas. Undoubtedly promoting “Networking” to boost their website and gambling channels. It’s growing old so if you would like to bet let’s work out a gentleman’s wager in the DMs.
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February 11th, 2023 at 7:06:12 PM permalink
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I've talked privately with some and actually posted obliquely about why MDawg might be allowed free rein. It comes down to that there is a net positive for the casinos even if there is a net negative for them when it comes specifically to me.

As far as why I won the drawings, it was just luck. Many speculate about that there is a light to MDawg which brings down all good fortune on him, and of course I just smile and nod, but bottom line is that some people have good luck in their lives and others do not.

Participation in the drawings is simply based on high end play and for most of the drawings, being present to win.
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I'm not buying it.

Sure they oftentimes roll out the red carpet for lucky winners, they want them back knowing eventually the HA will kick in. As you have said yourself, they keep a close eye on your wins and losses. You basically claim to be consistently winning for days, weeks, and months on end with only the rare occasional loss. IIRC someone did a rough statistical analysis regarding your session wins vs losses and it was in the absurd realm. Basically only possible under a significant advantage. Even if the information wasn't totally accurate there's it still fits into that category. So, in order for you to be winning at such a statistically improbable rate you'd have to be playing with a nice advantage. I find it unbelievable you could be openly pulling this off at the same 5-8 casinos for such significant amounts (IE a 250k+ session) in Las Vegas over many years without ever being looked into and stopped. Sure Advantage Players do stuff that lasts longer periods of time, but they are doing everything possible not to be noticed.

"allowed free rein. It comes down to that there is a net positive for the casinos even if there is a net negative for them when it comes specifically to me."

There have been many legitimate stories over the years about high-profile celebrities, wealthy people, etc that have been backed off or 86ed for Advantage Play and even no advantage playing winners(perhaps I'll post up some links later). You'd think if anybody should/would be allowed free rein, it would be them. If I were a casino I wouldn't ever want it public that I backed off someone like that. I do whatever I could to budget for their business and ask them to please tweet, insta, FB, and ticktock their wins, or whatever the heck they are on.

I certainly wouldn't doubt if you were getting significant kickbacks in free chips, cash, RFB, gifts, tournaments, etc by referring big players. I know that can pay very very well. I just don't think it's due to beating the games themselves either by Voodoo luck.... or AP as you are suggesting.
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February 11th, 2023 at 8:20:50 PM permalink
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February 11th, 2023 at 8:22:54 PM permalink
SeedValue knows MDawg wins, and SeedValue also has a wager on the table!

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February 12th, 2023 at 11:54:37 AM permalink
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There are actually people who do what they say, the rest seem to be armchair QBs with theory's they really don’t understand.
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That definitely applies to some.

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February 14th, 2023 at 9:50:41 AM permalink
More events and worthwhile events coming up at the Vegas Strip Majors, soon!

Turned these five chips

into $6500. real dollars, with little or no effort.
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February 15th, 2023 at 2:39:58 PM permalink
Another big drawing coming up, half a mill.
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February 15th, 2023 at 4:05:48 PM permalink
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Another big drawing coming up, half a mill.
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Any details? One winner? Lots of winners? How many entries? Etc….
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February 15th, 2023 at 10:25:10 PM permalink
About 50 entrants, 25 winners but each entrant will get from 1 - 20 tickets based on play over a set number of days, average probably about 5 tickets each so let's figure 250 entrance tickets for 25 prizes. 1/10 chance of winning something.

Top prize is 200K. CASH, not credit card.

$5K in promo chips just for showing up and entering.
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February 17th, 2023 at 8:43:56 AM permalink
One of the casinos is trying to re-negotiate the terms of my per trip / per session loss rebate! saying that it's not going to fly because my over all wins are lifetime too high. I had mentioned this before, but now it's actually happening not just dark mutterings.

Actually, they're not really "trying" they're pretty much saying that the gig is up.
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February 17th, 2023 at 9:32:19 AM permalink
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One of the casinos is trying to re-negotiate the terms of my per trip / per session loss rebate! saying that it's not going to fly because my over all wins are lifetime too high. I had mentioned this before, but now it's actually happening not just dark mutterings.

Actually, they're not really "trying" they're pretty much saying that the gig is up.
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Try using other people's players cards :)))
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February 17th, 2023 at 9:55:08 AM permalink
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One of the casinos is trying to re-negotiate the terms of my per trip / per session loss rebate! saying that it's not going to fly because my over all wins are lifetime too high. I had mentioned this before, but now it's actually happening not just dark mutterings.

Actually, they're not really "trying" they're pretty much saying that the gig is up.
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Try using other people's players cards :)))
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That got a real LOL from me!

But to the big Dawg…. Since you go to such a variety of places, and you don’t NEED to be at any one place, why not try this….

‘OK. I’ll be taking my gambling elsewhere. And I’ll be suggesting to my friends they join me. If you change your position on the loss rebates, you know how to reach me.’
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February 17th, 2023 at 10:56:57 AM permalink
MDawg is going to have to take his play online...

I might know a guy who knows a guy who has an unbeatable Roulette system, but it only works online, so drop me a line if you're interested....
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February 17th, 2023 at 11:39:12 AM permalink
Who needs a loss rebate when you're ahead every quarter? Keep winning!
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February 17th, 2023 at 3:03:24 PM permalink
Well let me know MDawg when you are banned from all comps and start flying to Atlantic City for offers. Maybe we can hang out.
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February 17th, 2023 at 4:28:23 PM permalink
Your loss is their loss. Even though you are ahead lifetime there.sometimes your wife and friends play there. Definitely take your play elsewhere and let the beancounters have their attitude.
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