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September 13th, 2022 at 8:06:59 AM permalink
These are the money bags one of the casino high limit cages hands out when you're cleaning them out sufficiently.



Last time I won big at this casino though, I didn't bring any bag with me, and they were out of them. You can't always assume that you're going to win more than will fit in your pockets, and often I'll just take a check or walk with the chips to cash them at another time, especially if we are staying in house. When staying in house you can't cash too much at once because your line will be temp closed. If you're walking in for just a single session and don't plan to be back anytime soon, you don't care, and take it all.

I have a lot of these or similar bags, but usually neglect to bring them with me when I play.

A dark and looming stack of $50K.


Two of these will fit into one of those money bags easily, but then you're walking around with something that you can't even stash under your coat, if you're even wearing a coat.
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September 13th, 2022 at 8:35:58 AM permalink
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These are the money bags one of the casino high limit cages hands out when you're cleaning them out sufficiently.



Last time I won big at this casino though, I didn't bring any bag with me, and they were out of them. You can't always assume that you're going to win more than will fit in your pockets, and often I'll just take a check or walk with the chips to cash them at another time, especially if we are staying in house. When staying in house you can't cash too much at once because your line will be temp closed. If you're walking in for just a single session and don't plan to be back anytime soon, you don't care, and take it all.

I have a lot of these or similar bags, but usually neglect to bring them with me when I play.

A dark and looming stack of $50K.


Two of these will fit into one of those money bags easily, but then you're walking around with something that you can't even stash under your coat, if you're even wearing a coat.
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I've carried fifty large. It's not that big a deal
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:12:00 PM permalink
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These are the money bags one of the casino high limit cages hands out when you're cleaning them out sufficiently.



Last time I won big at this casino though, I didn't bring any bag with me, and they were out of them. You can't always assume that you're going to win more than will fit in your pockets, and often I'll just take a check or walk with the chips to cash them at another time, especially if we are staying in house. When staying in house you can't cash too much at once because your line will be temp closed. If you're walking in for just a single session and don't plan to be back anytime soon, you don't care, and take it all.

I have a lot of these or similar bags, but usually neglect to bring them with me when I play.

A dark and looming stack of $50K.


Two of these will fit into one of those money bags easily, but then you're walking around with something that you can't even stash under your coat, if you're even wearing a coat.
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans. Nice bag tho
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:19:36 PM permalink
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Jeez scene I know that one

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Lol, wow, thanks.

Point to one other AP with APB's placed on him by NJ state troopers with the words, "no charges against him but be on the lookout for him" and I will agree.

Thanks Unjon for the translation.
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We should compare run ins. I’m still 100 percent active tho so I would not want to post the stuff you have on a public message board about such instances. I had 46 people or maybe 48 I can’t remember high 40s 86ed for a play recently. I’ve made entire Clubs be forced to change the way they rate players for free play.
In retrospect I regret such plays now. Driven by revenge and hate plus the will to make the casino pay at all cost.
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:22:46 PM permalink
Plus apparently we are disliked by the same wanna be self proclaimed greatest AP of all timez lol
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:25:18 PM permalink
One more thing I remember reading something Axel Wrote about making 250k a year puts you in the top 1 percent of all aps or something. I can’t remember exactly what he wrote but it was in a response directed to Dark Oz. Now I respect Axel immensely however I wouldn’t leave my home for 250k only. So I believe this number is really low when talking about the top 1 percent.
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:52:57 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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September 13th, 2022 at 12:57:36 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:02:31 PM permalink
Seriously I’m willing to wager let me know. Easy challenge easy money.
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:28:22 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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Yes it's not a biggie. Obviously it depends on the fit and cut of the jeans. Some even have multiple pockets.

I also have been responsible for player's clubs changing their entire system and methods but no, it's never a good thing.

And I too did a revenge/war with a casino. Ended up costing more in the long run. I learned it's better to quietly find other stomping grounds, avoid the war and in a year or two stop back in and see if things have gone lax again.
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:30:51 PM permalink
It would depend on the fit of your pants. Dress slacks or even mildly fitted slacks, fine. Tighter jeans, or something like this



you'd be better off putting the money in your coat or carrying it in a bag.

So if you're into the baggier look, easy fit! More into glam rock skinny fitting jeans, maybe not!
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:40:18 PM permalink
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It would depend on the fit of your pants. Dress slacks or even mildly fitted slacks, fine. Tighter jeans, or something like this



you'd be better off putting the money in your coat or carrying it in a bag.

So if you're into the baggier look, easy fit! More into glam rock skinny fitting jeans, maybe not!
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Relaxed fit jeans Mavi or lucky from Mens warehouse. No it would not fit in skinny jeans the youth wear but neither would my junk.

Seriously I have 25 to 30k in one pocket every day. Like right now I have 23k in one pocket. Yes you can’t fit anything else in if you have 50k and it’s not ideal but it’s definitely possible. I don’t utilize casino credit or lines. I use cash I don’t particularly want the casino knowing my business. A bag or man purse is definitely a better way to Carry large sums of money I’m not disagreeing. Alan Just basically said it wasn’t possible lol
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:41:35 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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Yes it's not a biggie. Obviously it depends on the fit and cut of the jeans. Some even have multiple pockets.

I also have been responsible for player's clubs changing their entire system and methods but no, it's never a good thing.

And I too did a revenge/war with a casino. Ended up costing more in the long run. I learned it's better to quietly find other stomping grounds, avoid the war and in a year or two stop back in and see if things have gone lax again.
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Nope it’s not a good thing
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September 13th, 2022 at 1:42:19 PM permalink
Seedvalue,

Having over forty of your crew banned from a particular location definitely breaks my record.

Most people I had banned the same month from one location was about eight.
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September 13th, 2022 at 2:09:21 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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On the rare occasions that I carry large sums of cash I usually wear a sport coat and keep it in the inside pockets.
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September 13th, 2022 at 2:10:29 PM permalink
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Seedvalue,

Having over forty of your crew banned from a particular location definitely breaks my record.

Most people I had banned the same month from one location was about eight.
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All signed by Mr McKenna himself 8 to 10 months after the play. Funny thing is they just used the fraud allegations because they had no idea what was up. Obviously many of these people were not really in my crew. It seems that some just got banned for being in the vicinity of someone suspected to be running the play. If I had to do If over again I wouldn’t have went as big. Revenge and ego got the best of me
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September 13th, 2022 at 2:44:31 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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I have no idea how big your pants are. I know I can't fit $20k in hundreds in my pockets. And there have been many $20k royals in my life.
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:17:22 PM permalink
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Seedvalue,

Having over forty of your crew banned from a particular location definitely breaks my record.

Most people I had banned the same month from one location was about eight.
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All signed by Mr McKenna himself 8 to 10 months after the play. Funny thing is they just used the fraud allegations because they had no idea what was up. Obviously many of these people were not really in my crew. It seems that some just got banned for being in the vicinity of someone suspected to be running the play. If I had to do If over again I wouldn’t have went as big. Revenge and ego got the best of me
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Who is Mr. McKenna
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:40:09 PM permalink
Wut


Bet me 20k that I can put 20k in 100s in a pair of relaxed fit lucky jeans size 32 waist from mens warehouse

I literally have 23k in my right front pocket currently with my keys and in my left I have players cards. Right now as I type this. You literally think it’s impossible? Wut
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:43:09 PM permalink
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50k will fit in the front pockets of most jeans.



Yeah.... if you have $1,000 bills. LOL
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Are you actually saying I can’t fit 50k in my two front jean pockets. Only using 100 bills ? Would you care to wager on this ? I literally walk around with 30 to 50 k every single day. I’m willing to bet you on this
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I have no idea how big your pants are. I know I can't fit $20k in hundreds in my pockets. And there have been many $20k royals in my life.
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I will
Bet you that I can put 20k in hundreds in a pair of relaxed or straight leg jeans that you wear. Made by most manufacturers. Levi or basically any major brand. Not skinny jeans
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:44:30 PM permalink
18 yos but impossible to put 20k in the front pocket of a pair of jeans. Sure Alan is definitely not trolling the world
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:45:27 PM permalink
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Seedvalue,

Having over forty of your crew banned from a particular location definitely breaks my record.

Most people I had banned the same month from one location was about eight.
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All signed by Mr McKenna himself 8 to 10 months after the play. Funny thing is they just used the fraud allegations because they had no idea what was up. Obviously many of these people were not really in my crew. It seems that some just got banned for being in the vicinity of someone suspected to be running the play. If I had to do If over again I wouldn’t have went as big. Revenge and ego got the best of me
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Who is Mr. McKenna
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Head of security at a certain casino chain
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September 13th, 2022 at 3:52:42 PM permalink
I will bet you $1000 that you can't put $20k in my jeans pocket and leave it there for a year.
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September 13th, 2022 at 9:07:07 PM permalink
If I had 20k in front pocket of pants I was wearing, it would only mean one thing. I had on someone else's pants.
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September 14th, 2022 at 5:36:10 PM permalink
There are various discussions about the odds of winning.

Considering streaks. Coin toss. There’s a player who always bets heads. The coin comes up heads 13 times in a row. The odds of 13 heads in a row are 8912 to 1. So then the odds of the guy who always bets heads winning 13 in a row are 8912 to 1.

What about the guy who alternates his bet sometimes bets heads sometimes tails. Are the odds that he’ll get 13 right in a row the same 8912 to 1?
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September 14th, 2022 at 5:40:24 PM permalink
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There are various discussions about the odds of winning.

Considering streaks. Coin toss. There’s a player who always bets heads. The coin comes up heads 13 times in a row. The odds of 13 heads in a row are 8912 to 1. So then the odds of the guy who always bets heads winning 13 in a row are 8912 to 1.

What about the guy who alternates his bet sometimes bets heads sometimes tails. Are the odds that he’ll get 13 right in a row the same 8912 to 1?
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If the coin of fair, then yes.

hhhhhhhhhhhhh

Happens exactly as often as

htthhhththtth

ETA: And maybe this is the point you are trying to make. The first pattern is more likely to have people bet it and ride the streak vs the second. Because people’s brains seek out patterns and when they find them in nature, even if the result of mere chance, they bet them.
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September 14th, 2022 at 8:46:35 PM permalink
Well - approximately.

I know this player who always bets the Tie at Baccarat. So when it hits, I clown him by saying, "How did you know the tie was going to hit?" and add, "Oh - that's right, you bet the tie every hand."

Similarly, a player who bets nothing but Bank, if he wins on a Bank run it doesn't mean as much as if a player who bets both sides hits the same Bank run and profits heavily.
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September 15th, 2022 at 8:14:17 AM permalink
Vegas weather cooling down!
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September 16th, 2022 at 8:16:22 AM permalink
And it's not just because of the slightly cooling weather that Vegas is ridiculously busy right now. On the Strip last night - tourist hordes galore!

Canelo v. GGG fight, tournaments (tourists not allowed), Life is Beautiful festival, Motor Trend Int'nl Auto Show, and more.
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September 16th, 2022 at 8:57:33 AM permalink
Last night my wife was saying, "We should only be going to the places that give us the most free, hold the biggest tournaments and give us the best offers. They should be begging for you to come back if they want their money back."

Sounds like an AP to me!
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Last night my wife was saying, "We should only be going to the places that give us the most free, hold the biggest tournaments and give us the best offers. They should be begging for you to come back if they want their money back."

Sounds like an AP to me!
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Your wife is wise.
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September 16th, 2022 at 9:15:08 AM permalink
Have you or any other Vegas forum members been to the Luxor for the AGT (America's Got Talent) show, and if so, how was it?

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September 16th, 2022 at 9:31:04 AM permalink
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Last night my wife was saying, "We should only be going to the places that give us the most free, hold the biggest tournaments and give us the best offers. They should be begging for you to come back if they want their money back."

Sounds like an AP to me!
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Your wife is wise.
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She's right too, because sometimes I just wander into whatever casino I haven't played at lately....

However, in my mind, spreading the play out over time per casino does have its advantages too, perhaps not so much as far as getting offers though.
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September 16th, 2022 at 8:46:53 PM permalink
Passing by (wasn't this AxelWolf and PokerGrinder's go-to-casino?)



Friday evening traffic is bumper to bumper even on back-street-to-the-Strip, Koval.

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September 16th, 2022 at 8:49:02 PM permalink
Formula 1 is coming! to Vegas (and is an equal opportunity street cruiser that will pass by even Ellis Island).

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September 16th, 2022 at 9:06:10 PM permalink
New carpeting in progress at Wynn/Encore.



I always said that the reason for the loud carpet was so that basically blind Steve Weinberg could find his way around his casino.

But even now that he's 86'ed, still the loud color theme continues.
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September 17th, 2022 at 6:14:37 AM permalink
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Passing by (wasn't this AxelWolf and PokerGrinder's go-to-casino?)




Many low rollers like Ellis Island. The last few times I was there they were giving additional free play if you brought your change in. I don't remember the exact number but it may have been a 10% bonus in free play. I was doing it every day while it was allowed. I probably did 10's of thousands of dollars worth or change.

Way too many meth heads living there, not a place I would hang out.
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September 17th, 2022 at 6:53:51 AM permalink
From the outside at least, Ellis Island looks better than say, the El Cortez?
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September 17th, 2022 at 7:00:13 AM permalink
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From the outside at least, Ellis Island looks better than say, the El Cortez?
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I think the inside is nicer also.
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I haven't done it in years, but as you walk down Fremont it gets worse and worse until finally you are in No Man's land! Is it still so bad in NorthEast Vegas that no taxi or hotel limo will even enter that combat zone?

About thirty minutes after our brush with the Okies we pulled into an all-night diner on the Tonopah highway, on the skirts of a mean/scag ghetto called "North Las Vegas." Which is actually outside the city limits of Vegas proper. North Vegas is where you go when you've f'ed up once too often on the Strip, and when you're not even welcome in the cut-rate downtown places around Casino Center.

This is Nevada's answer to East St. Louis - a slum and a graveyard, last stop before permanent exile to Ely or Winnemuca. North Vegas is where you go if you're a hooker turning thirty and the syndicate men on the Strip decide you're no longer much good for business out there with the high rollers . . . or if you're a pimp with bad credit at the Sands . . . or what they still call, in Vegas, "a hophead." This can mean almost anything from a mean drunk to a junkie, but in terms of commercial acceptability, it means you're finished in all the right places.

So once you get blacklisted on the Strip, for any reason at all, you either get out of town or retire to nurse your act along, on the cheap, in the shoddy limbo of North Vegas . . . out there with the gunsels, the hustlers, the drug cripples and all the other losers. North Vegas, for instance, is where you go if you need to score smack before midnight with no references.
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September 17th, 2022 at 7:21:28 AM permalink
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I haven't done it in years, but as you walk down Fremont it gets worse and worse until finally you are in No Man's land! Is it still so bad in NorthEast Vegas that no taxi or hotel limo will even enter that combat zone?

About thirty minutes after our brush with the Okies we pulled into an all-night diner on the Tonopah highway, on the skirts of a mean/scag ghetto called "North Las Vegas." Which is actually outside the city limits of Vegas proper. North Vegas is where you go when you've f'ed up once too often on the Strip, and when you're not even welcome in the cut-rate downtown places around Casino Center.

This is Nevada's answer to East St. Louis - a slum and a graveyard, last stop before permanent exile to Ely or Winnemuca. North Vegas is where you go if you're a hooker turning thirty and the syndicate men on the Strip decide you're no longer much good for business out there with the high rollers . . . or if you're a pimp with bad credit at the Sands . . . or what they still call, in Vegas, "a hophead." This can mean almost anything from a mean drunk to a junkie, but in terms of commercial acceptability, it means you're finished in all the right places.

So once you get blacklisted on the Strip, for any reason at all, you either get out of town or retire to nurse your act along, on the cheap, in the shoddy limbo of North Vegas . . . out there with the gunsels, the hustlers, the drug cripples and all the other losers. North Vegas, for instance, is where you go if you need to score smack before midnight with no references.

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A few misnomers. The downtown part of North Las vegas is a true ghetto but there are nicer more upscale subdivisions in parts of North Las Vegas.

I have never had a taxi refuse to take me into North Las Vegas. They don't like it but they do it. I don't know why they consider Ely and Winnemucca to be exile. They are just small Nevada towns. I actually like Ely.
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September 17th, 2022 at 8:06:50 AM permalink
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Many low rollers like Ellis Island. The last few times I was there they were giving additional free play if you brought your change in. I don't remember the exact number but it may have been a 10% bonus in free play. I was doing it every day while it was allowed. I probably did 10's of thousands of dollars worth or change.

Way too many meth heads living there, not a place I would hang out.
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This sounds like those bums who have shopping carts loaded with bottles for their nickel return

Can MDawg be a pauper hauling pounds of loose change for some freeplay?
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September 17th, 2022 at 8:09:03 AM permalink
Misreading again? Stumbling over your feet to come up with a half dozen (defensive) responses?  😃
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September 17th, 2022 at 8:26:58 AM permalink
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Can MDawg be a pauper hauling pounds of loose change for some freeplay?



I know that if I was wealthy I would not. To me making a couple thousand dollars off of free play is an easy decision.
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September 17th, 2022 at 10:18:46 AM permalink
If a bank or casino offered some decent incentive such as the 10% mentioned for hauling in your change, and I had enough lying around (which I do, actually), I'd bring it in especially if they would count it for me.

But, how were you coming up with tens of thousands in change? Taking cash to the bank to get change, and then going to the casino? At the banks nowadays there tend to be signs about how they apologize but don't have much coins.
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September 17th, 2022 at 10:26:22 AM permalink
Okay so here's something else. TRUCKS. The interstates are overrun with them, especially the southbound I-15 out of Vegas. It's at once ridiculous and impressive. You're often going to see anywhere from 50-100% of the vehicles passing you in the opposite direction over a period of a 1-2-3-4-5 count being 18-wheelers.

If the economy is so bad, who is buying all these goods?
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September 17th, 2022 at 10:33:12 AM permalink
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Friday evening traffic is bumper to bumper even on back-street-to-the-Strip, Koval.


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What's that supposed to mean? It sounds like some veiled insult
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September 17th, 2022 at 10:39:08 AM permalink
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If the shoe fit (sic)...

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September 17th, 2022 at 10:54:11 AM permalink
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If a bank or casino offered some decent incentive such as the 10% mentioned for hauling in your change, and I had enough lying around (which I do, actually), I'd bring it in especially if they would count it for me.

But, how were you coming up with tens of thousands in change? Taking cash to the bank to get change, and then going to the casino? At the banks nowadays there tend to be signs about how they apologize but don't have much coins.
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I thought it was 20% but I cannot remember now. I think it started at 20% and they lowered it. There were places doing up to 25% during the covid change shortage. Obviously, they would limit the amounts you could exchange. People were making thousands a week in California doing this.

At one time, my wife and I went to the bank and I bought bricks/ cans of quarters, I had forgotten how heavy they were so I had to make multiple trips to get them all in the car. Whenever we got the chance to exchange them for free play getting whatever extra percentage they were offering, we would do so.

I like "free money." Obviously there's a time commitment and a little work, but it's kinda fun. Unlike some people, I don't need or want to be in action gambling all the time. Sometimes I really enjoy it, sometimes I don't, it all depends on what I'm doing at the time. I enjoy the prosses and everything that goes into beating the casinos. The actual playing its not the reason I do what I do.
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September 17th, 2022 at 1:33:54 PM permalink
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I thought it was 20% but I cannot remember now. I think it started at 20% and they lowered it. There were places doing up to 25% during the covid change shortage.



You may be right, I don't even remember if I took my pills this morning.
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