The Adventures of MDawg II
September 6th, 2022 at 10:50:11 AM
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$328.00 for a cockroach of the sea
It’s all about making that GTA
September 6th, 2022 at 11:09:23 AM
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L.A. restaurants are expensive too, but not quite on the level of Vegas.
It would be interesting to compare, for example, the exact menu prices of a restaurant like Delilah that we have in L.A. but is also located in the Wynn. Also say, a chain such as Chart House that is also located inside the Golden Nugget. Are they charging more just because they are inside a Vegas casino hotel?
How about that Taco Bell on the Strip by Planet Hollywood, is it the most expensive Taco Bell around? Is the McDonald's inside the Palms more expensive than any outside McDonald's?
In any case, I'd agree that a lot of the prices at these Vegas casino restaurants are inflated, and the theory might be - to make high rollers feel better about how it's all comp'ed. Vegas business clients are tossing out corporate credit cards right and left to dine at these establishments as well, though.
It would be interesting to compare, for example, the exact menu prices of a restaurant like Delilah that we have in L.A. but is also located in the Wynn. Also say, a chain such as Chart House that is also located inside the Golden Nugget. Are they charging more just because they are inside a Vegas casino hotel?
How about that Taco Bell on the Strip by Planet Hollywood, is it the most expensive Taco Bell around? Is the McDonald's inside the Palms more expensive than any outside McDonald's?
In any case, I'd agree that a lot of the prices at these Vegas casino restaurants are inflated, and the theory might be - to make high rollers feel better about how it's all comp'ed. Vegas business clients are tossing out corporate credit cards right and left to dine at these establishments as well, though.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 6th, 2022 at 1:19:24 PM
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Quote: Ace2$328.00 for a cockroach of the sea
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Hey Ace, that is a good one and a winner.
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September 6th, 2022 at 2:27:50 PM
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Quote: MDawgL.A. restaurants are expensive too, but not quite on the level of Vegas.
It would be interesting to compare, for example, the exact menu prices of a restaurant like Delilah that we have in L.A. but is also located in the Wynn. Also say, a chain such as Chart House that is also located inside the Golden Nugget. Are they charging more just because they are inside a Vegas casino hotel?
How about that Taco Bell on the Strip by Planet Hollywood, is it the most expensive Taco Bell around? Is the McDonald's inside the Palms more expensive than any outside McDonald's?
In any case, I'd agree that a lot of the prices at these Vegas casino restaurants are inflated, and the theory might be - to make high rollers feel better about how it's all comp'ed. Vegas business clients are tossing out corporate credit cards right and left to dine at these establishments as well, though.
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If I remember correctly Taco Bell has generally consistent prices nationwide, with the exception ‘prices higher in Alaska and Hawaii’. Or at least that was true with some other fast food chains. They ALL jack up the prices in airports.
September 6th, 2022 at 2:42:39 PM
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In n Out was known for having consistent prices except for its Strip location.
But since the pandemic I see different pricing all over.
But since the pandemic I see different pricing all over.
September 6th, 2022 at 7:09:15 PM
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It's possible to convince yourself that Taco Bell fast food is healthful - it may well be compared to the usual hamburger and fries salt fest. At least when we travel if we're going to opt for fast food we'll go for Taco Bell before other fast food. I'd think that at least Taco Bell food, such as the Power Bowls, has a decent mix of vegetables and protein.
Put extra lettuce, chicken and jalapenos on there - not bad.
If you're famished and driving around - fast food sometimes wins by default, in that most anything sounds good if you are hungry enough. But, think it through and that burger and fries isn't as palatable as all that.
Put extra lettuce, chicken and jalapenos on there - not bad.
If you're famished and driving around - fast food sometimes wins by default, in that most anything sounds good if you are hungry enough. But, think it through and that burger and fries isn't as palatable as all that.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 11:37:51 AM
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Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
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Challenge received.
The ball is in the court of Axel to support the statement.
Per precedent, if he does, MDawg will serve time for losing the challenge. Otherwise, Axel will for false quoting.
Should Axel wish to retract the quote, he will serve a shorter time than if he loses the challenge.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 8th, 2022 at 11:41:52 AM
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Quote: WizardQuote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
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Challenge received.
The ball is in the court of Axel to support the statement.
Per precedent, if he does, MDawg will serve time for losing the challenge. Otherwise, Axel will for false quoting.
Should Axel wish to retract the quote, he will serve a shorter time than if he loses the challenge.
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Wizard, I recall statements like that from MDawg as well over the time period followed by contradictory statements as well that he does. This is literally thousands of pages for Axel to go through.
If I was Axel, after a cursory look to see if it popped out, I would take the suspension just because I wouldn't waste three days of reading old posts.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 8th, 2022 at 11:43:27 AM
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I am sure he doesn't need you to speak for him.
Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
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Indeed, I am quite certain I have posted the exact opposite of what AxelWolf claims.
DarkOz '21: But silence doesn't make you a professional.
REDietz '21: And a lack of silence doesn't make one unprofessional.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 1:41:02 PM
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Quote: WizardQuote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
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Challenge received.
The ball is in the court of Axel to support the statement.
Per precedent, if he does, MDawg will serve time for losing the challenge. Otherwise, Axel will for false quoting.
Should Axel wish to retract the quote, he will serve a shorter time than if he loses the challenge.
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MDawg has around 5k posts. I’d take the suspension as well rather than re-read them! Wizard, would you accept as ‘proof’ the many posts MDawg made showing a streak of ‘players’ that he ‘used’ to easily win? To me, that is tantamount to admitting that he does NOT play with an advantage. He has mentioned numerous times that he had wins due to ‘recognizing’ a streak was happening. As a math person (you are too!) , that is admitting you are playing by hunches and NOT with an advantage.
September 8th, 2022 at 1:54:51 PM
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As long as DarkOz and SooPoo seem so willing to engage, why don't they jump in and take the same challenge under the same threat of suspension?
I never stated that I have wins DUE to recognizing a streak, I stated that I played into a streak and won. Big difference. One is a sort of "this is what you do" - the other, a "this is what I did."
Indeed, in the Wizard witnessed session I caught 8/8 of a Player run. I did not state how or why I was able to do that, simply that I did.
It's like saying "I bet big on this hand of Blackjack and I won" versus explaining why I did that.
Anyway, I have never said that I do not play with an advantage, in fact I have stated the opposite on numerous occasions.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 2:00:13 PM
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Quote: SOOPOO
MDawg has around 5k posts.
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And AWolf has around 20K and yet whenever I want to quote him I am able to find the post, by virtue of remembering exactly what he stated, and finding the post!
Isn't that the sort of memory you need to be able to win at card games? AWolf doesn't have the same total recall?
If the search engine at WOV gave more predictable results I'd be able to find posts easier. As it stands, even recalling exactly what was said isn't enough to find the post using this search engine.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 2:11:06 PM
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As long as DarkOz and SooPoo seem so willing to engage, why don't they jump in and take the same challenge under the same threat of suspension?
I never stated that I have wins DUE to recognizing a streak, I stated that I played into a streak and won. Big difference. One is a sort of "this is what you do" - the other, a "this is what I did."
Indeed, in the Wizard witnessed session I caught 8/8 of a Player run. I did not state how or why I was able to do that, simply that I did.
It's like saying "I bet big on this hand of Blackjack and I won" versus explaining why I did that.
Anyway, I have never said that I do not play with an advantage, in fact I have stated the opposite on numerous occasions.
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Before you know it the entire forum will be suspended for three days and the only poster will be MDawg and the Wizard.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 8th, 2022 at 2:17:26 PM
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 8th, 2022 at 2:59:06 PM
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Quote: MDawg
As long as DarkOz and SooPoo seem so willing to engage, why don't they jump in and take the same challenge under the same threat of suspension?
I never stated that I have wins DUE to recognizing a streak, I stated that I played into a streak and won. Big difference. One is a sort of "this is what you do" - the other, a "this is what I did."
Indeed, in the Wizard witnessed session I caught 8/8 of a Player run. I did not state how or why I was able to do that, simply that I did.
It's like saying "I bet big on this hand of Blackjack and I won" versus explaining why I did that.
Anyway, I have never said that I do not play with an advantage, in fact I have stated the opposite on numerous occasions.
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I stand by my analysis. Using phrases like ‘how could someone not win’ given the streak to me implies playing because of the streak. You mentioning such events, heck even showing pictures, shows you were implying the streak is why you won. If you were playing with an advantage then why would you imply others could also win using your streak theory, without you telling them what the advantage is.
This whole thing about you trying to get Axel suspended over something as trivial as this is really beneath anyone here. So you didn’t (maybe?) verbatim say you don’t play with an edge? Who cares!!! The totality of your posts (more so the first few thousand) implied winning using mumbo jumbo phrases.
Just say ‘I play with an advantage and I’m not telling you what it is’ and leave it at that.
September 8th, 2022 at 3:04:40 PM
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"Just say ‘I play with an advantage and I’m not telling you what it is’ and leave it at that."
That's exactly what I have said, for years now. I never said I do not play with an advantage. End of story.
You want to take up the challenge?
I wrote about how I was banned from Blackjack many years ago...as in a decade or so before I even started posting at WOV...how did that happen if I wasn't playing with an advantage?
That's exactly what I have said, for years now. I never said I do not play with an advantage. End of story.
You want to take up the challenge?
I wrote about how I was banned from Blackjack many years ago...as in a decade or so before I even started posting at WOV...how did that happen if I wasn't playing with an advantage?
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 8th, 2022 at 3:10:35 PM
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Quote: MDawg"Just say ‘I play with an advantage and I’m not telling you what it is’ and leave it at that."
That's exactly what I have said, for years now. I never said I do not play with an advantage. End of story.
You want to take up the challenge?
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Absofreakinglutely not! I probably have read over 95% of your posts; I am aware of the ideas, concepts, nuances you have espoused. I’m not sure how much someone would have to pay me to reread them all, but it’s A LOT! I’ve given you the example THAT I CONSIDER my proof, why would I care if you consider it proof???
September 8th, 2022 at 3:14:03 PM
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Come on Dawg…. Just post a trip report. No reason to fight with me or Axel or to pathetically get the Wiz involved in this childishness. This is the MDawg thread, not the get Axel suspended thread.
September 8th, 2022 at 3:22:13 PM
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Well, AWolf came in here and posted a lot of nonsense snide remarks for days on end, starting with in Moses' obituary thread, also importing unsubstantiated drama from other forums right and left, and laid insults including this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/43/#post860644
"I don't know much about this condition other than the fact that it's often associated with mental retardation and children."
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and so...
I don't like it...any more than you men.
I doubt AWolf cares about being suspended anyway, as long as he kami kaze blows someone away in the process. His goal in posting here appears to be in getting others suspended, which is why as soon as he starts up he chimes in with "Let's both take a suspension." 😆
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/43/#post860644
"I don't know much about this condition other than the fact that it's often associated with mental retardation and children."
🙂
and so...
I don't like it...any more than you men.
I doubt AWolf cares about being suspended anyway, as long as he kami kaze blows someone away in the process. His goal in posting here appears to be in getting others suspended, which is why as soon as he starts up he chimes in with "Let's both take a suspension." 😆
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 4:17:33 PM
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"Not that I am trying to make a living out of it..." Implies he doesn't have an advantage.
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"...I think even if there were a positive EV form of Baccarat..." Implies he doesn't know of an advantage at Baccarat.
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He was just playing "for the purpose of having fun..." And he is "prepared to lose."
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ALL HE DID was keep pressing into each run. That's not advantage play.
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"My strategy is to wait for such shoes and play into them, play into the runs"
Again this is his posted description of what he does. This isn't a description of playing with an advantage.
All of this was his original position years ago. Then as time went on he morphed into an Advantage Player.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 8th, 2022 at 4:22:30 PM
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MDawg's average session bet has increased over the years. I guess it's high enough to sustain RFB forever as long as he doesn't go broke.
September 8th, 2022 at 4:22:44 PM
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None of what DarkOz posts gainsays playing with an Advantage, in fact doesn't address it at all, one way or another. Try again.
It's something like describing a Blackjack shoe where a player won every single hand, and then saying that because the player bet enough to win a lot on such a shoe that he is therefore not claiming to play with an advantage. If you walk up to slot machine that is paying a jackpot on every spin, are you going to revert to trying to analyze it or just put the money in and collect.
What AWolf will never find, because it does not exist is any statement where I claimed not to play at an advantage.
It's something like describing a Blackjack shoe where a player won every single hand, and then saying that because the player bet enough to win a lot on such a shoe that he is therefore not claiming to play with an advantage. If you walk up to slot machine that is paying a jackpot on every spin, are you going to revert to trying to analyze it or just put the money in and collect.
What AWolf will never find, because it does not exist is any statement where I claimed not to play at an advantage.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 4:29:18 PM
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Quote: MDawgNone of what DarkOz posts gainsays playing with an Advantage, in fact doesn't address it at all, one way or another. Try again.
It's something like describing a Blackjack shoe where a player won every single hand, and then saying that because the player bet enough to win a lot on such a shoe that he is therefore not claiming to play with an advantage.
What AWolf will never find, because it does not exist is any statement where I claimed not to play at an advantage.
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Axelwolf comment is that you claimed not to play with an advantage at BACCARAT specifically.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 8th, 2022 at 4:34:04 PM
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"MDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage"
Again, that is an affirmative statement.
Here's the Challenge.
I never said that. It's false quoting.
It's rather odd that you're more wound up about it than AWolf anyway.
Unless you want to make the exact same statement "MDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage" and then offer the gauntlet...I'd say you're just muddying the waters...
Again, that is an affirmative statement.
Here's the Challenge.
I never said that. It's false quoting.
It's rather odd that you're more wound up about it than AWolf anyway.
Unless you want to make the exact same statement "MDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage" and then offer the gauntlet...I'd say you're just muddying the waters...
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 4:49:51 PM
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MDawg…. DarkOz has presented enough direct quote evidence that if I were adjudicating this petty squabble I’d rule in favor of Axel. It’s over. Game, Set. Match. Axel. You can try and nitpick away. Frankly, the only one you can convince is yourself.
September 8th, 2022 at 4:55:19 PM
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SooPoo you're an establishment man, and you tend to go with the flow. Which is fine.
But none of what DOz posted addresses anything. I never said I don't play with an advantage. Saying that I press into runs at Baccarat is a plain fact. That is exactly what I did in the Wizard witnessed session. How I do it, is the question. It certainly doesn't address one way or another the false quoting of AWolf.
For example, say I produced this post of yours
does it then mean that you accept that MDawg must be overcoming the house edge, or that MDawg is claiming to overcome the house edge? It's no different from the posts D.Oz has provided, claiming that they mean this or that. None of those Dark Oz posts contradict playing with an edge, nor are they MDawg saying "I don't play with a mathematical advantage." - which was, the false quote.
So until AWolf produces something germane, it's just DarkOz as usual saying this or that because he doesn't want to be quiet after he gets started with a thought.
I should know what I have said, or not said. Someone looking from the outside who decides what a description of play after the fact means, is irrelevant input and frankly insulting.
But none of what DOz posted addresses anything. I never said I don't play with an advantage. Saying that I press into runs at Baccarat is a plain fact. That is exactly what I did in the Wizard witnessed session. How I do it, is the question. It certainly doesn't address one way or another the false quoting of AWolf.
For example, say I produced this post of yours
does it then mean that you accept that MDawg must be overcoming the house edge, or that MDawg is claiming to overcome the house edge? It's no different from the posts D.Oz has provided, claiming that they mean this or that. None of those Dark Oz posts contradict playing with an edge, nor are they MDawg saying "I don't play with a mathematical advantage." - which was, the false quote.
So until AWolf produces something germane, it's just DarkOz as usual saying this or that because he doesn't want to be quiet after he gets started with a thought.
I should know what I have said, or not said. Someone looking from the outside who decides what a description of play after the fact means, is irrelevant input and frankly insulting.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 8th, 2022 at 5:32:53 PM
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I’ll give you the last word. Too busy watching the BILLS now!
September 8th, 2022 at 5:32:54 PM
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Quote: MDawgSooPoo you're an establishment man, and you tend to go with the flow. Which is fine.
But none of what DOz posted addresses anything. I never said I don't play with an advantage. Saying that I press into runs at Baccarat is a plain fact. That is exactly what I did in the Wizard witnessed session. How I do it, is the question. It certainly doesn't address one way or another the false quoting of AWolf.
So until AWolf produces something germane, it's just DarkOz as usual saying this or that because he doesn't want to be quiet after he gets started with a thought.
I should know what I have said, or not said. Someone looking from the outside who decides what a description of play after the fact means, is irrelevant input and frankly insulting.
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The below quote is the biggest evidence you claimed not to have an advantage in Baccarat because you rather candidly state that you didn't know if there was a positive EV form of Baccarat.
How can you possibly be playing advantage play +EV Baccarat if you don't even know if it exists.
By saying you don't know if advantage play+EV Baccarat exists s, that is making a statement that you were at that time NOT playing with an advantage at Baccarat.
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September 8th, 2022 at 5:36:45 PM
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I saw that quote the first time you posted it. Look, if you're going to post something at least understand what it MEANS.
What it means is that even if the commission on Bacc were eliminated, to make the Bank bet not only win 51% of the time (which it already does - neglecting ties), but as well not have a commission deducted from it, still most Bacc players would jump their bets around and not bet Bank only. Doesn't mean that I would do that, just commenting on the average high roller. That's all. Less than nothing to do with what we are discussing, or what you are trying to say.
I have discussed this many times, in the context of that even if Baccarat were a true 50-50 game still most high rollers would keep playing until they lost everything.
I've talked about this 51% different times.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/36285-banker-payout/5/#post818534
Brought up in a different context:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/16893-best-single-bet-in-a-casino/
What it means is that even if the commission on Bacc were eliminated, to make the Bank bet not only win 51% of the time (which it already does - neglecting ties), but as well not have a commission deducted from it, still most Bacc players would jump their bets around and not bet Bank only. Doesn't mean that I would do that, just commenting on the average high roller. That's all. Less than nothing to do with what we are discussing, or what you are trying to say.
I have discussed this many times, in the context of that even if Baccarat were a true 50-50 game still most high rollers would keep playing until they lost everything.
I've talked about this 51% different times.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/36285-banker-payout/5/#post818534
Brought up in a different context:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/16893-best-single-bet-in-a-casino/
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 5:48:45 PM
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Quote: MDawgI saw that quote the first time you posted it. Look, if you're going to post something at least understand what it MEANS.
What it means is that even if the commission on Bacc were eliminated, to make the Bank bet not only win 51% of the time (which it already does - neglecting ties), but as well not have a commission deducted from it, still most Bacc players would jump their bets around and not bet Bank only. That's all. Less than nothing to do with what we are discussing, or what you are trying to say.
I've talked about this 51% different times.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/36285-banker-payout/5/#post818534
Brought up in a different context:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/questions-and-answers/gambling/16893-best-single-bet-in-a-casino/
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In other words you don't see an advantage at playing Baccarat just as your words state.
At any rate, Axel has to show that you made statements that would reasonably lead one to believe you had no advantage at Baccarat and were therefore not using one.
The Wizard will judge.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
September 8th, 2022 at 5:51:19 PM
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No one is going to judge based on your misreadings.
So far, AWolf has come up with nothing, and neither have you, other than square pegs that you try to stick into a round hole, in a matter that doesn't even concern you.
I mean if you try to claim that what you just posted means anything even close to what you claim, then there's no point in even entertaining your "evidence" further, because you're misreading to the nth degree.
So far, AWolf has come up with nothing, and neither have you, other than square pegs that you try to stick into a round hole, in a matter that doesn't even concern you.
I mean if you try to claim that what you just posted means anything even close to what you claim, then there's no point in even entertaining your "evidence" further, because you're misreading to the nth degree.
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I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 6:09:40 PM
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I don't believe that I am going to say this, but I will take MDawg's side. Just because someone doesn't disclose his methods does not mean that he doesn't have some. Don't get me wrong, I doubt that he does have an advantage but anything is possible.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
September 8th, 2022 at 6:17:18 PM
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Quote: DRichI don't believe that I am going to say this, but I will take MDawg's side. Just because someone doesn't disclose his methods does not mean that he doesn't have some. Don't get me wrong, I doubt that he does have an advantage but anything is possible.
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Respectfully, the issue is not whether he has an advantage.
It's also not whether he wants to admit he does.
Axel stated that MDawg made allusions years ago that he gambled without an edge specifically at Baccarat. MDawg claimed that wasn't true.
That's the whole of this challenge.
Did MDawg make allusions that he played without an edge.
Whether MDawg was misleading people is de riguer. What will get Axel or MDawg suspended is whether MDawg was misleading in his posts aas to his having an advantage years ago.
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September 8th, 2022 at 6:22:52 PM
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I believe DRich is saying that whether MDawg plays with an advantage or not is not the issue, he has not stated that he does not. (Which is the point of the whole Challenge!)
All you're doing DarkOz is drawing a sort of post hoc conclusion from statements of fact: MDawg says he bets into streaks therefore since I don't know of any way to do that pursuant to an advantage he must have been playing without an advantage.
Take the same statements you have quoted, and follow DRich's logic, and it means something completely different: MDawg says that he bets into streaks but I can't know how or why he does that because he never told us.
Seriously, even if you take this entire statement at face value: "MDawg says he bets into streaks therefore since I don't know of any way to do that pursuant to an advantage he must have been playing without an advantage." - STILL, it doesn't support that MDawg ever said "I don't play with an advantage."
All you're doing DarkOz is drawing a sort of post hoc conclusion from statements of fact: MDawg says he bets into streaks therefore since I don't know of any way to do that pursuant to an advantage he must have been playing without an advantage.
Take the same statements you have quoted, and follow DRich's logic, and it means something completely different: MDawg says that he bets into streaks but I can't know how or why he does that because he never told us.
Seriously, even if you take this entire statement at face value: "MDawg says he bets into streaks therefore since I don't know of any way to do that pursuant to an advantage he must have been playing without an advantage." - STILL, it doesn't support that MDawg ever said "I don't play with an advantage."
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 8th, 2022 at 6:25:29 PM
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Quote: MDawgI believe DRich is saying that whether MDawg plays with an advantage or not is not the issue, he has not stated that he does not. (Which is the point of the whole Challenge!)
I would not say it that emphatically as I have not read all of MDawg's posts.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
September 8th, 2022 at 6:30:34 PM
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Put another way, say MDawg had said "Go up to a slot machine and push the buttons at the right time and you'll win a lotttttttt of money!"
And then let's assume that DarkOz knows of no way to win at a slot machine, so he says, See! that proves that he doesn't play with an advantage.
But...that doesn't mean that I don't know something DarkOz doesn't know. And am playing with an advantage.
And as I believe DRich pointed out, just because I did not disclose what that advantage might be doesn't mean I don't have one.
And then let's assume that DarkOz knows of no way to win at a slot machine, so he says, See! that proves that he doesn't play with an advantage.
But...that doesn't mean that I don't know something DarkOz doesn't know. And am playing with an advantage.
And as I believe DRich pointed out, just because I did not disclose what that advantage might be doesn't mean I don't have one.
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September 8th, 2022 at 6:51:53 PM
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If MDawg has an advantage other than his bet amounts, I'm gonna have to go conspiracy theory and refer to Dark Oz's thread about card deck manufacturing.
September 8th, 2022 at 11:21:53 PM
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I have been busy, however, I sent The Wizard a PM. I'll let him digest that and respond more on the subject.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 8th, 2022 at 11:44:03 PM
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Quote: ChumpChangeIf MDawg has an advantage other than his bet amounts, I'm gonna have to go conspiracy theory and refer to Dark Oz's thread about card deck manufacturing.
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Thank you!
Notice that MDawg has never discussed or even responded to my theory.
Of course going through old posts of his I come across nuggets that correspond with my theory such as this one from 2018. Early enough in his posting here that he didn't quite realize how even tidbits of information could be giving away the farm.
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September 9th, 2022 at 7:50:59 AM
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Well! you finally came up with an old post of mine that alludes to playing with an advantage. But there are also other posts where I flat out simply say that I play with one, none where I say that I do not.
Anyway, let's not spend today on that topic, must be better things to do today.
Have a good one, DarkOz!
Anyway, let's not spend today on that topic, must be better things to do today.
Have a good one, DarkOz!
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 9th, 2022 at 8:42:17 AM
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Have a choice between a suite and fifty yard line tickets for Raiders vs. Chargers at SoFi, 9/11.
Supposed to rain though.
Supposed to rain though.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 9th, 2022 at 11:37:28 AM
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Quote: MDawgHave a choice between a suite and fifty yard line tickets for Raiders vs. Chargers at SoFi, 9/11.
Supposed to rain though.
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I’d take the suite. More comfy. Private loo.
September 9th, 2022 at 1:29:20 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOQuote: MDawgHave a choice between a suite and fifty yard line tickets for Raiders vs. Chargers at SoFi, 9/11.
Supposed to rain though.
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I’d take the suite. More comfy. Private loo.
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My company has suites at Allegiant stadium and many other locations that they allow the employees to use. If you are a true fan the experience is better in the seats with the commoners. If you are just going for the event I would choose the suite.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
September 9th, 2022 at 2:35:22 PM
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I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation.link to original post
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After conferring with the Wizard, I am posting here that The Wizard never said this.
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September 9th, 2022 at 6:16:10 PM
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I'm fairly new here, so maybe someone can help me out.
In order to challenge MDawg, you need to lay down cash.
Why can MDawg throw out a challenge, without a lay down?
In order to challenge MDawg, you need to lay down cash.
Why can MDawg throw out a challenge, without a lay down?
September 9th, 2022 at 8:59:24 PM
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Got hold of some of this. It's not like pate, not silky, not fatty, didn't care for it straight out of the tub, and I am a big pate de foie gras fan - got the wife to like pate too.
Maybe will like these rillettes more prepared with some other foods.
Maybe will like these rillettes more prepared with some other foods.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
September 10th, 2022 at 1:25:07 AM
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Evenbob said in the Governor thread he seen a guy win 12 10k bets online last week. That wasn't you was it mdawg? (Person was playing baccarat)
September 10th, 2022 at 7:00:07 AM
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I've done things like that, but I don't play online.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
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September 10th, 2022 at 7:08:46 AM
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Quote: avianrandyEvenbob said in the Governor thread he seen a guy win 12 10k bets online last week. That wasn't you was it mdawg? (Person was playing baccarat)
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I don't play online but can you see what other online people are wagering?
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September 10th, 2022 at 7:12:49 AM
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EvenBob is the one with great experience in online wagering, I'd ask him.
In some online casinos there is an actual roulette wheel spinning, or a dealer dealing actual cards for blackjack or baccarat, all continuously on camera, and I assume those are the casinos at which EvenBob plays.
In some online casinos there is an actual roulette wheel spinning, or a dealer dealing actual cards for blackjack or baccarat, all continuously on camera, and I assume those are the casinos at which EvenBob plays.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
