The Adventures of MDawg II
Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz
I have a theory that MDawg may actually know somewhat the composition of the cards at Baccarat to be dealt.
I have a hypothesis how this could be done, how it would not be cheating and how the Casino might never catch on.
That's not to say I am guessing correctly. Just that I could see a possible way it could be done.
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Well, yeah, you could know the general composition by counting cards....
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No, I don't believe he is counting. That's not my hypothesis at least.
Quote: darkozQuote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz
I have a theory that MDawg may actually know somewhat the composition of the cards at Baccarat to be dealt.
I have a hypothesis how this could be done, how it would not be cheating and how the Casino might never catch on.
That's not to say I am guessing correctly. Just that I could see a possible way it could be done.
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Well, yeah, you could know the general composition by counting cards....
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No, I don't believe he is counting. That's not my hypothesis at least.
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What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkozQuote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz
I have a theory that MDawg may actually know somewhat the composition of the cards at Baccarat to be dealt.
I have a hypothesis how this could be done, how it would not be cheating and how the Casino might never catch on.
That's not to say I am guessing correctly. Just that I could see a possible way it could be done.
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Well, yeah, you could know the general composition by counting cards....
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No, I don't believe he is counting. That's not my hypothesis at least.
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What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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It's a hypothesis supported by comments MDawg has made over the years. If he truly is doing this then he really has found a unique advantage play.
But if I describe it MDawg will most likely deny it either way.
If I am wrong he naturally will deny it.
If I am right he will not want to admit something that might end the Golden goose.
DD Blackjack.
Pretty small betting I actually think my largest bet was a couple thousand. Pretty good consistency with winning.
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Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
And this is the MDawg challenge.
tuttigym
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What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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Come on, the guy Martingales to the extreme and the casino allows the limits to whatever he desires. It should come as no surprise.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: TigerWu
What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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Come on, the guy Martingales to the extreme and the casino allows the limits to whatever he desires. It should come as no surprise.
tuttigym
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MDawg has flat out denied doing a martingale.
He does admit to raising his bets and claims it's when he has a pretty good idea if he is going to win although it's not guaranteed.
My hypothesis takes this into account
Sorry I am being mysterious a bit myself.
I noticed MDawg completely ignored my post while answering other posters. This might mean he is concerned I am closer than he desires to understanding what he does.
To summarize: there were no long periods of flat betting. If anything, I pressed into runs quite successfully time and again, and my bets ranged from 200 – 3500. There was no Martingale betting; in fact, I would tend to lower my bet after losing a hand versus increasing.
The Adventures of MDawg was placed in the Betting Systems sub-forum by agreement, as an accommodation. Whether it belongs here or not, you decide. I've yeah yeah yeahed accommodations more than once related to my thread. I don't really care about labels. Just gimme the winning chips!
Quote: darkozQuote: tuttigymQuote: TigerWu
What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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Come on, the guy Martingales to the extreme and the casino allows the limits to whatever he desires. It should come as no surprise.
tuttigym
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MDawg has flat out denied doing a martingale.
He does admit to raising his bets and claims it's when he has a pretty good idea if he is going to win although it's not guaranteed.
My hypothesis takes this into account
Sorry I am being mysterious a bit myself.
I noticed MDawg completely ignored my post while answering other posters. This might mean he is concerned I am closer than he desires to understanding what he does.
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Dm sent. I think he is leaving out things on purpose and it’s up to open minds to connect the dots. Plus he likes to troll just a little IMO. Maybe I’m wrong but I’m out here testing my theory so will see. I will say it was not easy to negotiate what I think he’s doing with the casino. Maybe I’m totally off base but I kept a completely open mind when analyzing everything he has posted Over the last few years. I just looked at it through the Lens that he was playing with an advantage, and everything he has posted that goes against the math was by design. Like just enough miss information as to not reveal the play. I’m not saying he is lying about anything I’m just describing the way I analyzed the situation. Either way If Im wrong about him, or not I seemed to have stumbled into a play that I otherwise would not have pursued.
Quote: MDawgAll you have to do is look at my witnessed session report to know I do not Martingale, I even lower my bet after losing more often than not. How I managed to win all 8/8 on that entire Player run, obviously has nothing to do with any betting system. I do that sort of thing all the time.
To summarize: there were no long periods of flat betting. If anything, I pressed into runs quite successfully time and again, and my bets ranged from 200 – 3500. There was no Martingale betting; in fact, I would tend to lower my bet after losing a hand versus increasing.
The Adventures of MDawg was placed in the Betting Systems sub-forum by agreement, as an accommodation. Whether it belongs here or not, you decide. I've yeah yeah yeahed accommodations more than once related to my thread. I don't really care about labels. Just gimme the winning chips!
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And it's this type of play that is perfectly in line with my theory.
Now the question is do I write about it?
Quote: darkozQuote: MDawgAll you have to do is look at my witnessed session report to know I do not Martingale, I even lower my bet after losing more often than not. How I managed to win all 8/8 on that entire Player run, obviously has nothing to do with any betting system. I do that sort of thing all the time.
To summarize: there were no long periods of flat betting. If anything, I pressed into runs quite successfully time and again, and my bets ranged from 200 – 3500. There was no Martingale betting; in fact, I would tend to lower my bet after losing a hand versus increasing.
The Adventures of MDawg was placed in the Betting Systems sub-forum by agreement, as an accommodation. Whether it belongs here or not, you decide. I've yeah yeah yeahed accommodations more than once related to my thread. I don't really care about labels. Just gimme the winning chips!
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And it's this type of play that is perfectly in line with my theory.
Now the question is do I write about it?
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I would a say wait two months, like not two weeks but two months to slow the spread
Quote: tuttigymQuote: TigerWu
What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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Come on, the guy Martingales to the extreme and the casino allows the limits to whatever he desires. It should come as no surprise.
tuttigym
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Excuse me. I misspoke or in this case mis-posted. There really is no secret sauce to his play. First, his reply I see as accurate by using playing trends as they occur, i.e., win a few then reduce then lose some, then increase again kind of like an elevator. The real key for his play is that, my terms, he is very cavalier with his money. That mindset allows him to bet whatever he feels might be necessary to win. The casino creates the environment for his play by allow him to extend the betting limits. For proof, I once asked him if he would play at a regular table with normal casino limits. His reply was that he did that and lost, I believe, $5k. Another words, if he is constrained by real casino rules, his results are quite normal.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: tuttigymQuote: TigerWu
What other technique is there that is consistent enough that isn't straight up cheating or collusion of some sort?
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Come on, the guy Martingales to the extreme and the casino allows the limits to whatever he desires. It should come as no surprise.
tuttigym
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Excuse me. I misspoke or in this case mis-posted. There really is no secret sauce to his play. First, his reply I see as accurate by using playing trends as they occur, i.e., win a few then reduce then lose some, then increase again kind of like an elevator. The real key for his play is that, my terms, he has no respect for money. That mindset allows him to bet whatever he feels might be necessary to win. The casino creates the environment for his play by allow him to extend the betting limits. For proof, I once asked him if he would play at a regular table with normal casino limits. His reply was that he did that and lost, I believe, $5k. Another words, if he is constrained by real casino rules, his results are quite normal.
tuttigym
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Perhaps but that's the essence of most AP.
If I was constrained by normal Casino rules and only used my own players card....?
I don't begrudge MDawg if he has figured out a rare play not doable or available to the majority of players.
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Perhaps but that's the essence of most AP.
If I was constrained by normal Casino rules and only used my own players card....?
So, you are saying that the advantage player throws caution to the winds and wagers wildly when the mood strikes regardless of what the prevailing math might indicate?
Quote: darkozI don't begrudge MDawg if he has figured out a rare play not doable or available to the majority of players.
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If $$$ are no object, one can be foolhardy at their discretion, and there is no objection from me.
tuttigym
Quote: tuttigymQuote: darkoz
Perhaps but that's the essence of most AP.
If I was constrained by normal Casino rules and only used my own players card....?
So, you are saying that the advantage player throws caution to the winds and wagers wildly when the mood strikes regardless of what the prevailing math might indicate?
No not at all.
What I am saying is advantage player's often utilize methods not available to the average player
For example the average player doesn't use ten or twenty players cards in other people's names.
You could make the argument that if I played by the rules (one card per person) I would also not be able to consistently win at the casino.
Quote: MDawgIf you give Tuttigym a little slack he'll run to places that no one could ever predict! with his conclusions.
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Since you did NOT push back or deny my conclusions, they must be correct. Thanks for the affirmations, and I do not need any "slack."
tuttigym
Quote: darkozQuote: tuttigymQuote: darkoz
Perhaps but that's the essence of most AP.
If I was constrained by normal Casino rules and only used my own players card....?
So, you are saying that the advantage player throws caution to the winds and wagers wildly when the mood strikes regardless of what the prevailing math might indicate?
No not at all.
What I am saying is advantage player's often utilize methods not available to the average player
For example the average player doesn't use ten or twenty players cards in other people's names.
You could make the argument that if I played by the rules (one card per person) I would also not be able to consistently win at the casino.
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I believe we all understand and admire your advantage play by multicarding with slots, but can you give us definitive advantage play in craps or roulette or baccarat? Then define an advantage playER in each of those venues as well as blackjack (6 deck shoe).
tuttigym
MDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage, I believe he even scoffed at those who use Advantage Play methods. The way he has talked about baccarat in the past are all indicative of a run-of-the-mill system player who thinks he can beat a -EV game by outsmarting the math.
Since he has a photographic memory he should recall exactly when, where, and what he has said /indicated regarding playing with an advantage. I think he has since realized it's better if he keeps you guys thinking it's possible he has a legitimate advantage(read the room)
You guys are missing some key factors why it's highly unlikely.
How often does something like you guys are thinking work on both baccarat and Blackjack? How does that explain his ability to predict the stock market so well? When he won his 60-some hands in a row, was he using his method you guys are thinking it could be?
The Wizard witness his play where he was supposed to be as he normally would. The Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation. Mike eluded to the fact that he might have an advantage, however, that's probably Mike thinking about RFB and various offers. He might somehow have an advantage if you include that stuff, or even if he has something extra special going on, but that certainly wouldn't explain the supposed continuous winning at such a high rate that he claims.
If you really had some special technique to beat baccarat would you invite Mike to watch you play? Would you be bragging, posting pictures of markers, chips, food rooms, gift cards, etc? I don't think you would want to be rubbing it in the casino's face.
Do you guys really think the major high-end casinos on the Las Vegas strip are going to comp a player for months and months at a time while that player is beating their brains in with such a significantly high win rate?
IIRC he had a $250k day? Meanwhile, All the dealers, hosts, and pit bosses keep mentioning how he always wins. You don't think that's gonna raise some eyebrows. Just how many years of consistent table game winning are the casinos going to take it in the A@$ for? There are all kinds of legit stories where casinos are asking winners not to play anymore after just a few lucky big sessions(known People with lots of clout). But, you guys think he might have some secret way to beat THE GAME?
C'mon on guys, USE SOME LOGIC!!
Quote: AxelWolfHe NOW wants you to now think it's possible he is playing with an advantage.
MDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage, I believe he even scoffed at those who use Advantage Play methods. The way he has talked about baccarat in the past are all indicative of a run-of-the-mill system player who thinks he can beat a -EV game by outsmarting the math.
Since he has a photographic memory he should recall exactly when, where, and what he has said /indicated regarding playing with an advantage. I think he has since realized it's better if he keeps you guys thinking it's possible he has a legitimate advantage(read the room)
You guys are missing some key factors why it's highly unlikely.
How often does something like you guys are thinking work on both baccarat and Blackjack? How does that explain his ability to predict the stock market so well? When he won his 60-some hands in a row, was he using his method you guys are thinking it could be?
The Wizard witness his play where he was supposed to be as he normally would. The Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation. Mike eluded to the fact that he might have an advantage, however, that's probably Mike thinking about RFB and various offers. He might somehow have an advantage if you include that stuff, or even if he has something extra special going on, but that certainly wouldn't explain the supposed continuous winning at such a high rate that he claims.
If you really had some special technique to beat baccarat would you invite Mike to watch you play? Would you be bragging, posting pictures of markers, chips, food rooms, gift cards, etc? I don't think you would want to be rubbing it in the casino's face.
Do you guys really think the major high-end casinos on the Las Vegas strip are going to comp a player for months and months at a time while that player is beating their brains in with such a significantly high win rate?
IIRC he had a $250k day? Meanwhile, All the dealers, hosts, and pit bosses keep mentioning how he always wins. You don't think that's gonna raise some eyebrows. Just how many years of consistent table game winning are the casinos going to take it in the A@$ for? There are all kinds of legit stories where casinos are asking winners not to play anymore after just a few lucky big sessions(known People with lots of clout). But, you guys think he might have some secret way to beat THE GAME?
C'mon on guys, USE SOME LOGIC!!
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Nice follow-up to my post that Mdawg has NO secret sauce, plus your extended treatise above is quite reasonable and believable. One other thing, if you look at his latest BJ exploits and sessions, there are no outrageous over the top wins, so if he is card counting, he needs to back to the drawing board.
tuttigym
Quote: TigerWuMDawg's only advantage in baccarat is that he gets a lot more breaks and bonuses as a high roller than the rest of us in the proletariat. Nothing wrong with that at all, but he doesn't have some secret, insider baccarat knowledge or hidden advantage play where "knows" what the next hand is likely going to be. He just knows how to take full advantage of the casino "system."
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The thing about secret systems is no one believes you unless the secret is exposed.
Answering Axel, you are here on this forum and while you don't explain your tricks, you certainly admit to having tricks which allow you to advantage play.
And you get irate when tricks and secrets are explained.
Then when someone who might have a secret may be throwing everyone off track by posting wins by psychic method (I know in advance when to wager, etc) you flip out as well that his "cover" is ridiculous and he should be forthright and forthcoming with his secret or admit he has nothing.
I don't know if he truly has something but based on his many many posts, (did I say many) there is a germ of a possibility I see that would satisfy me he maybe could have an actual advantage over the casino so deeply imbedded beyond the ability to see, that even the Wizard watching him play would be unable to see the advantage.
I personally don't have any plans to pursue this theory for myself in the real world (if it even exists) so maybe for farts and giggles I might post the theory and how it could potentially work.
Unless of course Axel will be irate at even posting hypothetical advantage play!?
tuttigym
Hey DO, could you please answer the questions I posed above?
Quote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:
Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation.link to original post
Because the only official statements made by the Wizard about the witnessed session were as follows:
AxelWolf seems desperate to inject himself into The Adventures of MDawg with some kind of relevancy, but he can't get away with saying things that are simply not true.
Quote: darkoz......so maybe for farts and giggles I might post the theory and how it could potentially work.
Do it, so we can discuss it and see if it's real or just some psychic mumbo-jumbo.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz......so maybe for farts and giggles I might post the theory and how it could potentially work.
Do it, so we can discuss it and see if it's real or just some psychic mumbo-jumbo.
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Definitely not psychic mumbo-jumbo. Not my theoretical that is.
But he wouldn't admit I am correct because he wouldn't want to. If it's his method he may even simply ignore my entire post while fuming quietly that someone nailed it.
Quote: tuttigymI believe we all understand and admire your advantage play by multicarding with slots, but can you give us definitive advantage play in craps or roulette or baccarat? Then define an advantage playER in each of those venues as well as blackjack (6 deck shoe).
tuttigym
Hey DO, could you please answer the questions I posed above?
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I'm not certain what the purpose of the question is.
Edge sorting is a known advantage play at Baccarat and Phil Ivey used it successfully (not including the ultimate outcome of the court cases).
At Roulette wheel clocking is supposed to be viable however extremely difficult. There are shows about people who wheel clocked.
At Blackjack there is of course card counting but beyond that there is shuffle tracking, ace tracking, hole carding, weak dealer tracking, etc.
What is the point of your asking?
This trip I have been playing mostly Blackjack, but I decided to play some Bacc too.
Quote: darkozQuote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz......so maybe for farts and giggles I might post the theory and how it could potentially work.
Do it, so we can discuss it and see if it's real or just some psychic mumbo-jumbo.
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Definitely not psychic mumbo-jumbo. Not my theoretical that is.
But he wouldn't admit I am correct because he wouldn't want to. If it's his method he may even simply ignore my entire post while fuming quietly that someone nailed it.
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Okay, well, just forget about what MDawg will or won't do. Tell us what your theoretical and consistent advantage at baccarat is so we can discuss it. Isn't that one of the main reasons for this website?
Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkozQuote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz......so maybe for farts and giggles I might post the theory and how it could potentially work.
Do it, so we can discuss it and see if it's real or just some psychic mumbo-jumbo.
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Definitely not psychic mumbo-jumbo. Not my theoretical that is.
But he wouldn't admit I am correct because he wouldn't want to. If it's his method he may even simply ignore my entire post while fuming quietly that someone nailed it.
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Okay, well, just forget about what MDawg will or won't do. Tell us what your theoretical and consistent advantage at baccarat is so we can discuss it. Isn't that one of the main reasons for this website?
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I will create a separate thread. My explanation will have to be lengthy because as a hypothetical advantage play I am certain there will be doubters.
So best to explain all the aspects.
I was looking for comments I remember him making that led to the conclusion of what his advantage play might be.
An interesting development. My conclusion was also reached at one point by Sodawater. He mentioned it only in passing. It was a long time ago.
I will include it in the thread I create. It makes me feel a little less crazy now that someone else hit upon the same hypothesis in passing at least.
Tuttygym,Quote: tuttigymQuote: MDawgIf you give Tuttigym a little slack he'll run to places that no one could ever predict! with his conclusions.
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Since you did NOT push back or deny my conclusions, they must be correct. Thanks for the affirmations, and I do not need any "slack."
tuttigym
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Since he did not push back or deny your conclusions, they must be conclusions that are to his advantage for others to waste time on: Vis-a-vis Suitably incorrect distractions. He is surely happy to have you muddy the waters with your totally wrong (I redacted an insulting word) speculations.
Quote: tuttigymOne other thing, if you look at his latest BJ exploits and sessions, there are no outrageous over the top wins, so if he is card counting, he needs to back to the drawing board.
tuttigym
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https://www.studysmarter.us/explanations/english/rhetoric/false-dichotomy/
What has card counting got to do with 'outrageous over the top wins'?
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:
I quite like this definition.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Trolling
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AxelWolf ... he can't get away with saying things that are simply not true.
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Well, MDawg, I think it's long been established that members CAN get away with saying things that simply are not true.
AxelWolf is not obliged to post any evidence. Moderators are under no obligation to suspend anyone at MDawg's behest.
Will it be able to explain how he is consistently beating THE GAME silly?Quote: darkozI tried going through the MDawg threads but it's over a thousand pages now.
I was looking for comments I remember him making that led to the conclusion of what his advantage play might be.
An interesting development. My conclusion was also reached at one point by Sodawater. He mentioned it only in passing. It was a long time ago.
I will include it in the thread I create. It makes me feel a little less crazy now that someone else hit upon the same hypothesis in passing at least.
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuestion: if there were no betting limits and no bankroll limits is it possible for a player to keep betting until he has a net win on any session?
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Yes.
Quote: AxelWolfWill it be able to explain how he is consistently beating THE GAME silly?Quote: darkozI tried going through the MDawg threads but it's over a thousand pages now.
I was looking for comments I remember him making that led to the conclusion of what his advantage play might be.
An interesting development. My conclusion was also reached at one point by Sodawater. He mentioned it only in passing. It was a long time ago.
I will include it in the thread I create. It makes me feel a little less crazy now that someone else hit upon the same hypothesis in passing at least.
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Judge for yourself. I posted it just now
No.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuestion: if there were no betting limits and no bankroll limits is it possible for a player to keep betting until he has a net win on any session?
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For instance, calculate the probability that no heads appear in X coin flips. No matter how large X is, that probability is always greater than zero. There is no guarantee that a head will ever appear, assuming that's what you're betting on
Even if you have a $10 billion dollar bankroll and there are no betting limits, a martingale will work for you until you hit a very unlucky streak and you can't cover the next bet, at which point you've lost the majority of your bankroll. All of that for the goal of winning one measly unit
If I accept this challenge, who gets to decide if you have indicated that you do not play with a mathematical advantage? It would have to include any and all posts, and PM's made on the internet that you have made. I won't accept a ruling from Mike.Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation.link to original post
Because the only official statements made by the Wizard about the witnessed session were as follows:
AxelWolf seems desperate to inject himself into The Adventures of MDawg with some kind of relevancy, but he can't get away with saying things that are simply not true.
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I want it to be worthwhile, so the suspension would need to be for 3 months. If I accept, let's make it fun, we both promise not to post on any forum or Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, Pinterest, Reddit, LinkedIn, and Twitter. If it's something directly related to your business, then that's fine. I don't consider apps such as Viber, Discord, Telegram, WeChat, Skype, WhatsApp, or GroupMe, a forum.
Also, no playing catch-up upon one's return and posting about things that happened during that 3 months, unless it's something significant and totally unrelated to casinos and gambling.
Quote: AxelWolfIf I accept this challenge, who gets to decide if you have indicated that you do not play with a mathematical advantage? It would have to include any and all posts, and PM's made on the internet that you have made. I won't accept a ruling from Mike.
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For $1,999 (+ Taxes) per hour, payable 50:50 by the two parties, I would be willing to adjudicate fairly.
I have one thing to say about that, I think you will greatly appreciate it, it's been a long time and long overdue.Quote: OnceDearQuote: AxelWolfIf I accept this challenge, who gets to decide if you have indicated that you do not play with a mathematical advantage? It would have to include any and all posts, and PM's made on the internet that you have made. I won't accept a ruling from Mike.
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For $1,999 (+ Taxes) per hour, payable 50:50 by the two parties, I would be willing to adjudicate fairly.
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Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation.link to original post
Because the only official statements made by the Wizard about the witnessed session were as follows:
AxelWolf seems desperate to inject himself into The Adventures of MDawg with some kind of relevancy, but he can't get away with saying things that are simply not true.
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I already PM'ed the Wizard and told him that I challenge the statement,
Quote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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it's not a complex matter. Obviously as always the person challenged has to come up with something I posted at WOV that supports what he claims I said. If not, he gets suspended. This is nothing new, it's been done before.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/36481-sabre-coachs-challenge/
DD Blackjack.
Three separate sessions, win, lose, lose. Over all, not good.
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Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
And this is the MDawg challenge.
Never claimed you said anything on WOV(I certainly could have been here and other places), I said you eluded to that fact in the past. I don't care if it was talked about here, there, or the other place, if you elude to or say something somewhere else, that doesn't mean it didn't happen and magically go away..Quote: MDawgQuote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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I challenge AxelWolf, at risk of suspension, to produce the posts where I have ever indicated that I do not play with a mathematical advantage.
Discussing trends or anything else is not the same thing as stating that I do not play with an advantage.
If he can produce the posts, I'll take a suspension. If he cannot, he should be suspended.
I also challenge him to produce the Wizard's post where he stated this:Quote: AxelWolfThe Wizard didn't notice any substantial Advantage Play situation.link to original post
Because the only official statements made by the Wizard about the witnessed session were as follows:
AxelWolf seems desperate to inject himself into The Adventures of MDawg with some kind of relevancy, but he can't get away with saying things that are simply not true.
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I already PM'ed the Wizard and told him that I challenge the statement,Quote: AxelWolfMDawg has indicated in the past he doesn't play Baccarat with a mathematical advantage
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it's not a complex matter. Obviously as always the person challenged has to come up with something I posted at WOV that supports what he claims I said. If not, he gets suspended. This is nothing new, it's been done before.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/36481-sabre-coachs-challenge/
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