The Adventures of MDawg II
Quote: AlanMendelsonHang on guys... Darkoz and Mdawg.
Are you now going to get into a silly argument over what is winning and what is losing?
It is silly.
Some players dont want to win because they'd have to pay taxes. But there are no taxes on rebates and cashback and comps and promos.
Some players may not care about the tax situation because they dont have ex wives checking returns or are going through divorces.
Attacking each other over personal goals is ridiculous.
Besides... who wants to show a profit gambling??
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I totally agree.
MDawg prognosis that unless you actually win at the games themselves is telling.
Professional AP's are just interested in the bottom line, not how they get there.
If there is a situation where I have to lose sixty grand because I will wind up profiting a hundred grand I am not going to say "BUT BUT BUT I didn't win at Baccarat!"
That's a 1/6th of 1% comp rate.
OTOH, I could just play the $15 BJ table for 4 hours a day and get 1500 points added to my card as a $15 comp.
If I have a $9,000 coin-in, I'd get a $15 comp (bubble craps may be double that at $20K coin-in).
600 hands of $15 BJ is around $9K of coin-in not counting splits and double downs. If I'm only playing 200 hands in 4 hours because the table is full, that may be one way to triple my comps.
7200 hands of $1.25 VP also equals $9K coin-in.
Anything beyond that, he is just reading into it and going on the defensive, fencing off attacks or claims that are not intended or proffered.
Quote: MDawgI am just pointing out that D.Oz doesn't understand what is going on in Vegas at the tables, and therefore isn't qualified to claim that undercomping is going on.
Anything beyond that, he is just reading into it and going on the defensive, fencing off attacks or claims that are not intended or proffered.
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Lol, you are so offended at the suggestion you are being undercomped. Don't take it personally. It's just that you are!
There are ways of getting the same comps you get but for a lot cheaper.
The amount of coin in you do at the tables is of such a high amount that the offers you receive aren't fair for your level of play.
In other words, you are being under-comped.
You can deny it all you want but that doesn't change the fact.
All I state is that you are not qualified to speak on the Vegas table games matter, by your own admission. I wouldn't waste time trying to debate anything with someone who has little or no experience at the tables, let alone in Vegas. For whatever reason, it seems to bother you that I point this out, even though you admit it yourself.
Quote: MDawgDenial and defensiveness are your foibles.
All I state is that you are not qualified to speak on the Vegas table games matter, by your own admission.
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I understand ADT. Which by your description of how it works you are not qualified to speak on.
I asked you months ago a simple ADT calculation and you refused to answer. We both know you don't understand the subject as much as you assert.
But that's just not true. You can beat some slots straight up, not all slots are -EV. Obviously, it's way more lucrative when you add in promotions, free play, gift cards, comps etc.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawg
I play tables to win. You play slots and apparently can't win, so you make it up with free play.
This statement sums up your entire disconnect with what we are discussing.
When I publish my book probably the very first sentence will read "you can't beat the slots because they are negative expectation. But there are ways to still make a living by consistently winning at the casino."
Your statement above seems to belittle the fact I am not trying to "beat slots" as much as "beat Casinos".
You sound like the guy who brags that he flies first class all the time while I go coach. Funny, we both disembark at the same location so what does it matter? My goal on a flight to Los Angeles isn't to be pampered, it's to arrive in Los Angeles.
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When it comes to beating the casinos with an advantage, I don't think most people would give a rat's ass if the money came from the game itself or the casino marketing, it all spends the same.
He likes to keep getting back to injecting ideas that are beyond his ken on how it works in Vegas at the tables.
He'll keep repeating himself because it bothers him so much, but most every post he makes includes the admission that he doesn't deal with tables or Vegas casinos.... Why would a real professional keep going on and on about a market in which he has next to zero experience?
Quote: AxelWolfBut that's just not true. You can beat some slots straight up, not all slots are -EV. Obviously, it's way more lucrative when you add in promotions, free play, gift cards, comps etc.Quote: darkozQuote: MDawg
I play tables to win. You play slots and apparently can't win, so you make it up with free play.
This statement sums up your entire disconnect with what we are discussing.
When I publish my book probably the very first sentence will read "you can't beat the slots because they are negative expectation. But there are ways to still make a living by consistently winning at the casino."
Your statement above seems to belittle the fact I am not trying to "beat slots" as much as "beat Casinos".
You sound like the guy who brags that he flies first class all the time while I go coach. Funny, we both disembark at the same location so what does it matter? My goal on a flight to Los Angeles isn't to be pampered, it's to arrive in Los Angeles.
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When it comes to beating the casinos with an advantage, I don't think most people would give a rat's ass if the money came from the game itself or casino marketing, it all spends the same.
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Those slot opportunities are not the norm. I'm assuming you refer to variable state and or must hits.
I have my own opinion on those (must hits for example are beatable on paper but good luck getting a seat at that opportune moment).
In general, the vast majority of slots are not beatable.
That said you and I are in alignment. The argument as to where the profit comes from, most people don't give a rats ass.
The same methods he and others use on the east coast will work across the country, free play and comps will vary from place to place, but it's all the same basic idea.Quote: MDawgAs stated before and now, I don't bother responding to most of what D.Oz posts, because I know he doesn't play in Vegas, and doesn't play tables.
He likes to keep getting back to injecting ideas that are beyond his ken on how it works in Vegas at the tables.
He'll keep repeating himself because it bothers him so much, but most every post he makes includes the admission that he doesn't deal with tables or Vegas casinos....
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Quote: MDawgAs stated before and now, I don't bother responding to most of what D.Oz posts, because I know he doesn't play in Vegas, and doesn't play tables.
He likes to keep getting back to injecting ideas that are beyond his ken on how it works in Vegas at the tables.
He'll keep repeating himself because it bothers him so much, but most every post he makes includes the admission that he doesn't deal with tables or Vegas casinos.... Why would a real professional keep going on and on about a market in which he has next to zero experience?
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Why would someone who claims they know all about how ADT works not be willing to answer a simple ADT question?
So I am concentrating on this new topic, where you admit you don't deal with tables or Vegas yet keep questioning what is done here. 😆
Quote: MDawgThat debate and the other one over theo loss led to a posting my Wizard that we should leave that topic (those two topics actually) alone.
So I am concentrating on this new topic, where you admit you don't deal with tables or Vegas yet keep questioning what is done here. 😆
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And you don't understand how slots or the East Coast works yet you keep describing how you believe it works.
We know you have repeated over and over that MDawg is undercomped, notwithstanding that you have no personal knowledge of the Vegas market or even of table games. Have I posted anything about how you're doing something inefficient over there with slots?
But in any case, I know what I am doing here and know I am doing it to pretty heavy duty levels, with the emphasis on winning outright. I also am not aware of anyone lately who has negotiated much better loss rebate arrangements, although one of the casinos where I haven't even lost seems to be on the verge of backing out.
Quote: MDawgWhere? How?
We know you have repeated over and over that MDawg is undercomped, notwithstanding that you have no personal knowledge of the Vegas market or even of table games. Have I posted anything about how you're doing something inefficient over there with slots?
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Belive it because that's absolutely the case.Quote: AlanMendelsonJust an observation: I cant believe there is such a big difference between gaming comps and free play between Nevada Casinos and the West Coast and how the casinos in Atlantic City operate.
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There are some places that are similar in total amounts and what's needed to earn the free play, but when it comes to pick up schedules, having ro check in etc are very different.
Vegas is way more stingy when it comes to free play nowadays, however there are way more places in a small area, and it costs significantly less to earn those smaller offers.
I think people are way more interested in actual provable Advantage Play than they are in high limit Baccarat play where people are using betting-systems, hunches, streaks, card flow, ans mumbo-jumbo. That stuff can't be successfully tought or learned(cus it doesn't really work). Most People don't come from money or have large amounts of cash in order to be high rollers. What is it, less than. 70% of Americans have 1k in he bank? What's that number world wide?Quote: MDawgD.Oz says he is a slots scheme operator. I play real tables only. That is another big difference.
But in any case, I know what I am doing here and know I am doing it to pretty heavy duty levels, with the emphasis on winning outright. I also am not aware of anyone lately who has negotiated much better loss rebate arrangements, although one of the casinos where I haven't even lost seems to be on the verge of backing out.Quote: MDawgWhere? How?
We know you have repeated over and over that MDawg is undercomped, notwithstanding that you have no personal knowledge of the Vegas market or even of table games. Have I posted anything about how you're doing something inefficient over there with slots?
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Many of us Advantage Player's started with almost nothing. For example...
Myself, DarkOZ Mickey Crimm. As for myself, I was young 22 or 23 ish. I had $300, no car, a suspended driver's license, a job that only paied $8 an hour, I had to use rent a center to obtain a TV and stereo. I was forced to have roommate's if I wanted to get out of the naked city.
Actually, I really only got roommate's because it was all good looking chick's(4), but that's a different crazy story.
Because of Advantage Play..... Basically, Overnight I go from a scheduled $8 an hour job with bosses and a schedule to no schedule, no bossed...to....$50 an hour with complete freedom
doing something I loved and with a limitless future while making much more per hour. Not bad, considering my age, no collage or learned trade... I have Just making money from the casinos for 27 something year's.... here I am still doing it.
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Actually, I really only got roommate's because it was all good looking chick's(4), but that's a different crazy story.
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Having done similar things, please allow me to caution would-be followers:
It's not as easy as it sounds.
looking forward to hearing that story. Might rival darkoz experience legal ease with carding and trespassingQuote: DieterQuote: AxelWolf
Actually, I really only got roommate's because it was all good looking chick's(4), but that's a different crazy story.
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Having done similar things, please allow me to caution would-be followers:
It's not as easy as it sounds.
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Quote: avianrandylooking forward to hearing that story. Might rival darkoz experience legal ease with carding and trespassingQuote: DieterQuote: AxelWolf
Actually, I really only got roommate's because it was all good looking chick's(4), but that's a different crazy story.
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Having done similar things, please allow me to caution would-be followers:
It's not as easy as it sounds.
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Might make a good sitcom.
Five's Company?
Quote: darkozQuote: avianrandylooking forward to hearing that story. Might rival darkoz experience legal ease with carding and trespassingQuote: DieterQuote: AxelWolf
Actually, I really only got roommate's because it was all good looking chick's(4), but that's a different crazy story.
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Having done similar things, please allow me to caution would-be followers:
It's not as easy as it sounds.
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Might make a good sitcom.
Five's Company?
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My extensive research suggests that the level of domestic "crazy" you experience closely follows the square of the number of women you are living with.
Peer reviewed, but not published.
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
.
Likewise, implying in some way that because DO makes his $$$ by losing at some slots that the $$$ in DO’s pockets isn’t as worthy as the money in MDawg’s pocket is just stupid.
Of the two combatants, I am more amazed and interested in DO, going from homeless to finding a complicated, lucrative career. I guess MDawg has done it more ‘my way’, by parlaying education, business savvy, and intellect to make a success of himself.
I think the BIG problem with this thread (and frankly many here at WoV) is that neither can ‘out’ exactly what they are doing for obvious reasons, leaving seeds of doubt for all.
Get back to the tables, MD! I need a trip report!
Anyway, yes SooPoo the next trip is coming up fast, in fact, we might already be in Vegas! As you know, session reports are time delayed. 😇 Might as well pick up the gift cards while here.
My girlfriend at the time didn't have a jealous bone in her body and actually encouraged me to do whatever with other girls. This was because she was not into other guys, but occasionally, into other girls. Sometimes she would bring another girl into the fold, usually just for a short term affair, but one summer she met a girl who needed a place to stay and she told her, you can come stay with us if you'll ---- my boyfriend. The girl said, Okay well let me see him, and after she did, she said, Sure, I'll ---- him. And so it was, for an entire summer. It was great while it lasted! All of my friends were either dropping by to gawk or, if they lived far away, asking me, "Tell me how this works."
It lasted only one summer because the other girl ended up having some issues so we had to kick her out. But during that summer it was on and cracking night and day sometimes. We even went to Vegas all together a couple times and the comments ranged from "Dude!" and "Right on!" to, "I pity the fool" (this from a passer by who must have convinced himself I was being worked by two teenagers).
The relationship with my girlfriend lasted some years though, but eventually I moved on. You'd think someone like that would be ideal, and she was in some respects, but not others. Still friends though but just friends.
He knows the free play amounts are different in Las Vegas. His understanding of how the theo works is accurate, the table game comps in LV are not that different from the East coast. If you're actually playing at the levels you would have us believe, I think you are being under-comped when it comes to liquid comp assets and you are being over-comped when it comes to RFB. The casino would much rather give you a $1000 in RFB than $1000 in Chips, rebates or free play.Quote: MDawgWow even AxelWolf stepped in to tell D.Oz that he is wrong in thinking that it might be the same in Vegas as back East.
Anyway, yes SooPoo the next trip is coming up fast, in fact, we might already be in Vegas! As you know, session reports are time delayed. 😇 Might as well pick up the gift cards while here.
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Quote: AxelWolfHe knows the free play amount are different in Las Vegas, however his understanding of how the theo works is accurate, the table games are not that different. If you're actually playing at the levels you would have us believe, I think you are being under-comped when it comes to liquid comp assets and over-comped when it comes to RFB.Quote: MDawgWow even AxelWolf stepped in to tell D.Oz that he is wrong in thinking that it might be the same in Vegas as back East.
Anyway, yes SooPoo the next trip is coming up fast, in fact, we might already be in Vegas! As you know, session reports are time delayed. 😇 Might as well pick up the gift cards while here.
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Lol, MDawg sought to twist words to try and pit Axel and me against each other
Didn't work.
As Axel points out Theo works very similar and as Axel agrees, MDawg is undercomped certainly as far as liquid comps assets.
RFB I refer to as junk comps and quite often Casinos do overcomp those.
Just to set the record straight I consider comps junk when they are used to mesmerize the player but don't really have too much value.
Rooms are their number one junk comp. If they didn't hand out the room it's not going anywhere. It's either empty or comped or rented.
My favorite junk comp is when high rollers get front of the line access. Got a top black or super platinum or whatever the level is, you can skip the lines
Wow, I wonder how much that costs the Casinos?
Junk comps!
But, if you think you could do better, by all means! There may be only one Pope of Las Vegas, but there is always room for a Cardinal or two.
Quote: MDawgAnyway, I wouldn't waste time debating it with you...
Yes always move on when losing the debate.
Quote: MDawgIt lasted only one summer because the other girl ended up having some issues so we had to kick her out.
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My extensive research suggests this is often the case.
The "pity the fool" fellow could well have been speaking from a place of "been there, done that, burned the souvenir T-shirt".
Quote: AxelWolfMost People don't come from money or have large amounts of cash in order to be high rollers. What is it, less than. 70% of Americans have 1k in he bank? What's that number world wide?
Many of us Advantage Player's started with almost nothing. For example...
Myself, DarkOZ Mickey Crimm. As for myself, I was young 22 or 23 ish. I had $300, no car, a suspended driver's license, a job that only paied $8 an hour, I had to use rent a center to obtain a TV and stereo. I was forced to have roommate's if I wanted to get out of the naked city.
Because of Advantage Play..... Basically, Overnight I go from a scheduled $8 an hour job with bosses and a schedule to no schedule, no bossed...to....$50 an hour with complete freedom
doing something I loved and with a limitless future while making much more per hour. Not bad, considering my age, no collage or learned trade... I have Just making money from the casinos for 27 something year's.... here I am still doing it.
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Of the two combatants, I am more amazed and interested in DO, going from homeless to finding a complicated, lucrative career. I guess MDawg has done it more ‘my way’, by parlaying education, business savvy, and intellect to make a success of himself.
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That might be more what this is all about. The nouveau riche versus the blue blood? Are they thinking I am looking down on them? which is why the defensiveness?
That’s not what this is about. I’m not saying that what they are doing is undervalued, but I know what I am doing is right on! beautiful.
Interestingly, SeedValue, who has also posted about coming up from little, has no problem with MDawg.
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Im pretty sure I have figured out what you are doing, and the casinos welcome you back. However Casinos don’t tolerate what we are doing at the level we do it so there’s a bigger risk. People can’t fathom your level of play just like the can’t fathom Oz having 200k of free play a month. I will admit up until about 5 months ago I thought you were the biggest fraud going. Maybe you still are but I actually think I have a good idea what you may be doing. I’m not interested in betting against you that’s for sure.
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I am fine with whatever D.Oz is doing. I am fine with whatever AWolf is doing.
But actually, this whole debate started because D.Oz doesn't seem to be fine with whatever MDawg is doing!
The thing with D.Oz is that he can't let it go when challenged, all you have to do is post any little comment about him and he will come back again and again because he has to have the last word. So, in this respect, I suppose it is personal for him and why he gets defensive.
For me,
Quote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
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Personal insult. Three days.
Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMost People don't come from money or have large amounts of cash in order to be high rollers. What is it, less than. 70% of Americans have 1k in he bank? What's that number world wide?
Many of us Advantage Player's started with almost nothing. For example...
Myself, DarkOZ Mickey Crimm. As for myself, I was young 22 or 23 ish. I had $300, no car, a suspended driver's license, a job that only paied $8 an hour, I had to use rent a center to obtain a TV and stereo. I was forced to have roommate's if I wanted to get out of the naked city.
Because of Advantage Play..... Basically, Overnight I go from a scheduled $8 an hour job with bosses and a schedule to no schedule, no bossed...to....$50 an hour with complete freedom
doing something I loved and with a limitless future while making much more per hour. Not bad, considering my age, no collage or learned trade... I have Just making money from the casinos for 27 something year's.... here I am still doing it.
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Of the two combatants, I am more amazed and interested in DO, going from homeless to finding a complicated, lucrative career. I guess MDawg has done it more ‘my way’, by parlaying education, business savvy, and intellect to make a success of himself.
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That might be more what this is all about. The nouveau riche versus the blue blood? Are they thinking I am looking down on them? which is why the defensiveness?
That’s not what this is about. I’m not saying that what they are doing is undervalued, but I know what I am doing is right on! beautiful.
Interestingly, SeedValue, who has also posted about coming up from little, has no problem with MDawg.Quote: Seedvalue
Im pretty sure I have figured out what you are doing, and the casinos welcome you back. However Casinos don’t tolerate what we are doing at the level we do it so there’s a bigger risk. People can’t fathom your level of play just like the can’t fathom Oz having 200k of free play a month. I will admit up until about 5 months ago I thought you were the biggest fraud going. Maybe you still are but I actually think I have a good idea what you may be doing. I’m not interested in betting against you that’s for sure.
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I am fine with whatever D.Oz is doing. I am fine with whatever AWolf is doing.
But actually, this whole debate started because D.Oz doesn't seem to be fine with whatever MDawg is doing!
The thing with D.Oz is that he can't let it go when challenged, all you have to do is post any little comment about him and he will come back again and again because he has to have the last word. So, in this respect, I suppose it is personal for him and why he gets defensive.
For me,
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Neither of us gives up until we get the last word in my opinion.
I don't have any problem with rich people. They have their issues as well. My contact with people born with silver spoons is that usually they can't see the forest for the trees.
I will give an example. After 9/11, my employer at the time lost huge on investment he had in WTC companies.
He literally moaned for hours how he was broke and couldn't afford to put food on the table.
After a few days he had scheduled a flight for a business trip and asked me to call him a limo to the airport. I asked if such luxury was wise because I thought he was almost destitute.
He then screamed at the top of his lungs (in front of his employees all of us making approximately $18 an hour), I AM DESTITUTE. I ONLY HAVE FIVE MILLION DOLLARS LEFT TO MY NAME!"
You see rich people who never had to go at it poor have a disconnect as to what most of the world sees.
Quote: MDawgIf he was in the movie business maybe he was billing it all to the studios?
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He was born in the movie business. He is gone from this Earth now so I think it's fine to say his uncle was Danny Kaye.
One evening I caught a Danny Kaye film and saw the resemblance. It was uncanny. So the next day at work I commented how much he resembled his uncle.
"It was by marriage, you imbecile" was his reply.
I worked for him for nine years. It was more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
What was the name of your ex-boss? I hope he's not my classmate. You may PM it to me. That guy you describe sounds like a jerk though, the kid I went to school with was not like that.
Anyway, when I found out his uncle was Danny Kaye I didn't really think much of it. I went to a private school where many were the son or daughter of some big shot, including top heads of studios, but it wasn't until years later that I started thinking about all that. At the time it just seemed like, whatever.
In law school too, one day this foreign student started mentioning to me who this guy or that girl's father was. Big names. I just said, so what? and he said, Well, don't you THINK about such things? I really didn't.
Quote: MDawgHe must have died young then? I went to school with one of Danny Kaye's nephews (he was related somehow, I believe he was a nephew) and he looked just like Danny Kaye. He was a lot older than I was, but we were in a school play together. He played the grandson of the lead on some sitcom on television, but that was before I was even in school.
What was the name of your ex-boss? I hope he's not my classmate. You may PM it to me. That guy you describe sounds like a jerk though, the kid I went to school with was not like that.
Anyway, when I found out his uncle was Danny Kaye I didn't really think much of it. I went to a private school where many were the son or daughter of some big shot, including top heads of studios, but it wasn't until years later that I started thinking about all that. At the time it just seemed like, whatever.
In law school too, one day this foreign student started mentioning to me who this guy or that girl's father was. Big names. I just said, so what? and he said, Well, don't you THINK about such things? I really didn't.
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I will PM his name
Yes he died young. 53 years. That was back in 2004 so the time sounds correct.
It would be hilarious if there was just two degrees of separation between us, lol.
Why is that an insult? Since when is it an insult to say someone loves themselves? If one is a good person, staying out of trouble and living the good life, why shouldn't they love themselves? Isn't there a saying that you have to love yourself before you love others(Probably BS.)? Does Mdawg actually hate himself and that's why he notified you "demanding" action(speculaton on my part that he notified you but I'd probably give odds)?Quote: WizardQuote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
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Personal insult. Three days.
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It has nothing to do with being rich or poor. It's more about people calling out inaccurate information and things they believe are BS. There are thousands of examples of this all over the internet and working-class status plays no part in it. The poor are calling out the rich and the poor, and the rich are calling out the rich and the poor. We just happen to be on a gaming forum where most have an above-average understanding of casinos and gambling (Some people just think they do, YO get what I'm saying ?)Quote: MDawgQuote: AxelWolfMost People don't come from money or have large amounts of cash in order to be high rollers. What is it, less than. 70% of Americans have 1k in he bank? What's that number world wide?
Many of us Advantage Player's started with almost nothing. For example...
Myself, DarkOZ Mickey Crimm. As for myself, I was young 22 or 23 ish. I had $300, no car, a suspended driver's license, a job that only paied $8 an hour, I had to use rent a center to obtain a TV and stereo. I was forced to have roommate's if I wanted to get out of the naked city.
Because of Advantage Play..... Basically, Overnight I go from a scheduled $8 an hour job with bosses and a schedule to no schedule, no bossed...to....$50 an hour with complete freedom
doing something I loved and with a limitless future while making much more per hour. Not bad, considering my age, no collage or learned trade... I have Just making money from the casinos for 27 something year's.... here I am still doing it.
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Of the two combatants, I am more amazed and interested in DO, going from homeless to finding a complicated, lucrative career. I guess MDawg has done it more ‘my way’, by parlaying education, business savvy, and intellect to make a success of himself.
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That might be more what this is all about. The nouveau riche versus the blue blood? Are they thinking I am looking down on them? which is why the defensiveness?
That’s not what this is about. I’m not saying that what they are doing is undervalued, but I know what I am doing is right on! beautiful.
Interestingly, SeedValue, who has also posted about coming up from little, has no problem with MDawg.Quote: Seedvalue
Im pretty sure I have figured out what you are doing, and the casinos welcome you back. However Casinos don’t tolerate what we are doing at the level we do it so there’s a bigger risk. People can’t fathom your level of play just like the can’t fathom Oz having 200k of free play a month. I will admit up until about 5 months ago I thought you were the biggest fraud going. Maybe you still are but I actually think I have a good idea what you may be doing. I’m not interested in betting against you that’s for sure.
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I am fine with whatever D.Oz is doing. I am fine with whatever AWolf is doing.
But actually, this whole debate started because D.Oz doesn't seem to be fine with whatever MDawg is doing!
The thing with D.Oz is that he can't let it go when challenged, all you have to do is post any little comment about him and he will come back again and again because he has to have the last word. So, in this respect, I suppose it is personal for him and why he gets defensive.
For me,
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According to some of the things you have said, they would suggest you are worth hundreds of millions (At least when BTC was at 68k)Many people might very well believe you are a high roller. I think very few people believe you when it comes to...I always win at almost everything I do, persona. If we were to put a lie detector on any of your "supporters" and asked if they actually believed all the gambling winning, stock winning, and various other claims they would have to say no or fail the test miserably.
p.s. I wouldn't go guessing what's in SeedValue's head, he's a clever guy from what I can gather. And whatever he might think you could be doing probably isn't what you would want us thinking you are doing. I'm fairly certain he doesn't believe many of your claims, if he does, I take back my clever statement.
Quote: AxelWolfWhy is that an insult? Since when is it an insult to say someone loves themselves? If one is a good person, staying out of trouble and living the good life, why shouldn't they love themselves? Isn't there a saying that you have to love yourself before you love others(Probably BS.)? Does Mdawg actually hate himself and that's why he notified you "demanding" action(speculaton on my part that he notified you but I'd probably give odds)?Quote: WizardQuote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
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Personal insult. Three days.
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Because it's a snide remark and this forum is full of them.
Would you say such a thing at a dinner party in his home?
But, I’ll bet I can find AT LEAST 100 other insults in this thread that did not result in a suspension.
When the veracity of a post is challenged you don’t think that is insulting to the poster??? Each time Wiz brings up the ludicrous 18 yo’s in a row that isn’t insulting towards AM? Of course it is!
These mild insults add flavor to the forum, and should not result in suspensions.
We NEED an MDawg trip report! How big was the suite? How many ‘banks’ in a row did you hit? How good was the sushi? How hot was the girl hitting on you? How many $25k chips did you leave with?
You never show (I may have missed it) one of those ludicrously overpriced pool side cabanas. (I once actually paid cash for one under pressure from wifey!!!). Do you and wifey never use one? I’m assuming at your level it’s an easy comp to get!
Probably, however, I have no clue why you are comparing a dinner party to a forum.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfWhy is that an insult? Since when is it an insult to say someone loves themselves? If one is a good person, staying out of trouble and living the good life, why shouldn't they love themselves? Isn't there a saying that you have to love yourself before you love others(Probably BS.)? Does Mdawg actually hate himself and that's why he notified you "demanding" action(speculation on my part that he notified you but I'd probably give odds)?Quote: WizardQuote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
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Personal insult. Three days.
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Because it's a snide remark and this forum is full of them.
Would you say such a thing at a dinner party in his home?
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Would you say some of the same bad things you said about Rob Singer at a dinner party in his home?
Was actually considering selling them, but nowadays with e-tickets it's not as easy as just selling a couple of pieces of paper from a distance - you might have to walk the buyers to the gate just to make sure they get in. Plus, mostly, didn't want to deal with that. If were willing to go to the stadium in the first place, would just go to the show.
Quote: AxelWolfProbably, however, I have no clue why you are comparing a dinner party to a forum.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfWhy is that an insult? Since when is it an insult to say someone loves themselves? If one is a good person, staying out of trouble and living the good life, why shouldn't they love themselves? Isn't there a saying that you have to love yourself before you love others(Probably BS.)? Does Mdawg actually hate himself and that's why he notified you "demanding" action(speculation on my part that he notified you but I'd probably give odds)?Quote: WizardQuote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
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Personal insult. Three days.
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Because it's a snide remark and this forum is full of them.
Would you say such a thing at a dinner party in his home?
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Would you say some of the same bad things you said about Rob Singer at a dinner party in his home?
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Since YOU brought up Rob Singer I'm going to ask you to quote my exact words.
Then we can judge if I reported what he told me or if I insulted him?
I think you'll find I reported what he told me. I didnt launch any insults.
Now post what you found. Cite the source, time, date and site.
Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfProbably, however, I have no clue why you are comparing a dinner party to a forum.Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: AxelWolfWhy is that an insult? Since when is it an insult to say someone loves themselves? If one is a good person, staying out of trouble and living the good life, why shouldn't they love themselves? Isn't there a saying that you have to love yourself before you love others(Probably BS.)? Does Mdawg actually hate himself and that's why he notified you "demanding" action(speculation on my part that he notified you but I'd probably give odds)?Quote: WizardQuote: lilredrooster______________
this thread is a really long story about a man who is very deeply in love
with himself
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Personal insult. Three days.
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Because it's a snide remark and this forum is full of them.
Would you say such a thing at a dinner party in his home?
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Would you say some of the same bad things you said about Rob Singer at a dinner party in his home?
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Since YOU brought up Rob Singer I'm going to ask you to quote my exact words.
Then we can judge if I reported what he told me or if I insulted him?
I think you'll find I reported what he told me. I didnt launch any insults.
Now post what you found. Cite the source, time, date and site.
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I'm not going to look very hard for every post and negative thing you've said about him, and it's doubtful I'll search VCT. I'll do it for a particular thread since it's an easy search.
This is actually a dumb question anyways because the obvious answer should be, NO, I wouldn't insult a man in his own home.
You and others can read through this thread, I'm not going to date and property quote everything here are just some highlights.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/34633-rob-singer-discuss/#post766664
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It's too bad Singer didn't apologize for all the pain he caused others with his vicious personal attacks.
I learned my lesson. I will never allow Singer to use me as a platform for his unproven claims and statements and after this year long struggle at finding the truth no other publisher, host, forum owner, website owner, should allow his claims and statements to be made again using their media.
This interview by Mike put the final seal and the final nail in the fantasy of the Rob Singer claims.
By the way today on VCT he made it clear he is armed and threatened anyone who might approach his wife or grandkids. I don't know who would but clearly he's dangerous.
Several times when I spoke to him he reminded me that he killed two people. I don't know the circumstances but I consider him dangerous. I won't have any further contact with him.
Should I die under any questionable circumstances please remember what I posted here.
I would suggest that everyone just walk away now. It's over.
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Quote: SOOPOOYou never show (I may have missed it) one of those ludicrously overpriced pool side cabanas. (I once actually paid cash for one under pressure from wifey!!!). Do you and wifey never use one? I’m assuming at your level it’s an easy comp to get!
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Actually the times we have been in one, we've been guests of another high roller. When you get those cabanas they justify the high price by giving a certain value of beverage with the rental, say, $1000. of drink (which actually goes pretty fast given the prices for bottle service). Since we don't drink, we'd end up with a ridiculous amount of non-alcoholic beverages, and the beverages they supply probably wouldn't be of interest to us anyway, as the sort of health drinks we are into
they don't stock at least not without advance request, and even then the variety of what they have would not match what we like.
In any case, not really into extended exposures to the sun, or to alcohol.
One time actually a friend of mine tried to get a cabana in my name but no one could reach me and ended up getting busted because they thought was just trying to get in via a name dropping scam. I would have approved it but I was busy at the tables and they were trying to phone the room and no one was in it at that moment.
What we do sometimes do, is rent out the entire private steam/sauna/hot tub section of a spa, for our exclusive use. In those cases they do provide a bottle of champagne
that we just take out with us to give away, and lots of beverage, but since people who go to the spa for a treatment aren't there to get soused, the beverage allowance is more reasonable. Still, we end up with lots of non alcoholic beverages that we sometimes lug back to the suite, and other times just leave behind.
Yes, I can get most anything comp'ed including those poolside cabanas, but they just aren't something that usually is of interest to us.
