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ChumpChange
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August 29th, 2026 at 12:21:05 PM permalink
Well, I've lost down to $0 on WinCraps and I had the option to get money from the ATM or just allow a negative balance; I chose to allow a negative balance. On my way down I was betting $300 on the PL and $300, $400, $500 odds, so any point win would pay $900. My losing streak continued down to -$13.5K. I switched it up to adding one come bet of the same values. Then I started winning. I still needed 2 point wins to break even for the shooter unless I was hit with a bunch of line bet losers. I played for hours and rolled really fast. Eventually I got it crept up to +$22.5K then I added a second come bet and ran that up to $36K. At above $36K I just went back to a single come bet but doubled my bets. I got to $46K, I was on my way to $100K! Not so fast. The crap game started punking me and I fell all the way back to $0 and below.

So it is possible to have a good run with this strategy, but the dice are the ones to determine if it pans out. I had a +55X $900 win followed by a +5.5X $1.8K win, and lost back the same.
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September 11th, 2026 at 2:58:16 AM permalink
Played a new betting chart on my million dollar BJ game in progress. I started with a $20K buy-in, and hit a low of $3K left. I kept bobbing up and down but never long in positive territory until near the end. I eliminated progressions on a win to lower the effective loss as I played. I still had stepped progressions depending on my balance.. This particular one had a steep one bet drop near the bottom, but a double down win could offset it here and there. I would normally just call it a win if I just double-up the buy-in after 400 hands, but I hadn't even gotten close until the very end at 934 hands and chose to ride whatever good luck was suddenly floating me up.

Some of the analytic charts don't make sense to me. How did I lose 3 consecutive bet levels yet advance on from them? I don't know.
It says I bet $1.315 million total. I was up 3.83% on the total bet. Estimated HA is 0.5% comes out to $6,575 and 33.3% of that is $2189. My average bet was around $1.4K, so any comp would be worth a Black Jack on one average bet after this many hands.

My ending balance is $1.35 million and I made $50K on this session with a bet range of $500 to $4,000. I played for an extra win or so to even out around +$50K.
I expect I'll win on a chart of 1/100th this size at a real game with a $200 buy-in at a $5 table before I go broke. But waiting for 1,000 hands at 50 hands an hour could turn out to be several trips to the casino. I could win a session in just a dozen hands if they were all winners.

I was trying to build a betting chart that omits $1 chips because there aren't enough for me at the BJ table. It's not a chart I would even think about, but it works for $5 PL and $5+ odds bets too. I could take it to 7X odds at my local $10 w/10X odds table with this chart.

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September 18th, 2026 at 12:28:47 AM permalink
Played two types of Iron Cross tonight, and they do have some redeeming values but when the Point 7-outs go on a run, it's well over.
I tried $1,000 on the 5, $1,200 on the 6 & 8 with $500 on the Field so I'd get payouts of either $900 on the 5, 6, 8 or $500 on the everything else but the 2 & 12 and the 12 paid triple.
I also tried $1,500 on the 5, $1,800 on the 6 & 8 with $1,000 on the Field so I'd get either $1,100 on the 5, 6, 8 or $1,000 on everything else but the 2 & 12 and the 12 paid triple.

Towards the end I even added $500 to the Hard 6 & 8 and if one won, I'd press it by $1,000 so instead of winning $4,500 I'd win 3X that on the 2nd win, then I'd press to $5,000 for a $45K win on the 3rd hit, then press to $15,000 for a $135K win and leave it up, but I didn't get two in a row so I didn't have to reset the table limits to win $150K on the 4th one.
The dice made sure to show me it will roll 3 hard 4's in a row instead.

I was trying the Fire bet for $15, I should have upped it to $100 so a 1,000 for 1 win would pay $100K, but those only hit when I'm not betting on them.

I went from -$35K to -$140K and won back to -$101K. So I lost $105K in 400 rolls.
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