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December 30th, 2020 at 8:51:28 AM permalink
I finally did a page and video on the Martingale.


Direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPBuf0TNyo&feature=youtu.be.

I welcome all comments.

So far I've done this, the Fibonacci, Labouchere, Oscar's Grind, and Paroli. Any other requests?

I know this audience is too smart to pay for a betting system, but if anyone does have one, I'd be happy to take a look at it and debunk as it's not too complicated.

The question for the poll is what do you think of the video?
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December 30th, 2020 at 11:49:53 AM permalink
You might consider doing a video on the 1-3-2-6 system.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
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December 30th, 2020 at 12:01:34 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

You might consider doing a video on the 1-3-2-6 system.



Hmmm. Never heard of it until now. Here is a page on it. Is there any particular reason for this sequence?
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December 30th, 2020 at 1:03:36 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Hmmm. Never heard of it until now. Here is a page on it. Is there any particular reason for this sequence?



You risk a one unit loss the first two wagers, lock up profit if losing on the third, break even if losing the fourth and a decent amount of winning the fourth.
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December 30th, 2020 at 1:03:53 PM permalink
The idea is to risk only 1 unit per round while pressing with your winnings.

In the first round you risk 1 bankroll (b) unit. If you lose, start over. If you win, you have 1 b-unit on the table and 1 winnings (w) unit on the table to which you add another b-unit thus risking 3 units in round two.

If you lose round two, you lose 2 b-units but, this is acceptable since it averages out to losing one unit per round. Start over. If you win the second round, you have two b-units and four w-units on the table. Remove two b and two w units and risk the remaining two w-units in round three.

If you lose round three, you're ahead two units over three rounds. Yahoo! Start over. If you win round three, you have four w-units on the table. Add the two w-units you placed in your stack last round, then press the six w-units for round four.

If you lose round four, you've broken even. Of well. Start again. If you win, however, you've won twelve units in four rounds. Whoo Hoo! Bank the money or throw down a w (now a b) unit and start the sequence again.

Obviously you're looking for streaks, and the first two rounds are critical but, there is a method to the madness.
Have you tried 22 tonight? I said 22.
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December 30th, 2020 at 1:30:03 PM permalink
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please post a vid on the 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙪𝙞𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙨𝙮𝙨𝙩𝙚𝙢...............winning with intuition......................please 𝙧𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙖𝙡 𝗶𝘁𝘀' 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝘁𝘀
showing how it can be learned in less than one hour
and that those who master it have the key to ez money and large steady profits with very low risk





thanks.......................................................................... (~:\...................................√√√√





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December 30th, 2020 at 1:32:34 PM permalink
"Win a million dollars on Mississippi Stud! Just send me $50,000!"

Edit: I keep getting these auto warranty scam phone calls.
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December 30th, 2020 at 7:22:31 PM permalink
Excellent video.

After turning 21 and getting into casinos I "discovered" the Martingale and thought I was a genius.

I legitimately thought that I had found a winning system and was afraid to tell others because of it getting out (in retrospect, I don't even know why that would be a rational fear).
This was short lived, I had a Stats professor around the same time who did a lecture on the Martingale one class and I felt like a fool (and not long later discovered WOO and other resources which quickly confirmed this). I think the simplicity in this system is why it is so enticing, and I imagine I am not the only one to "discover" it while experimenting with gambling.

The only "system" I occasionally use now (with full knowledge that it does not change anything) is basically the opposite (I don't know if it has a term) of martingale. But, I bet on some even money game whatever the the bet is (say 50), if I win, I bet 100, if I win again, I bet 200, win again 400... etc until I hit some randomly assigned goal like 8-10X the original bet (or lose) then I reset and start from the minimum bet. This gives the internal illusion of winning substantially more (if you get several wins in a row) while never risking more of your own money than whatever your basic betting unit is per sequence, and its usually fun to have winning streaks (and this amplifies that feeling). If you are playing recreationally (not planning on winning, but it a pus), and responsibly (expect to lose whatever you bring, etc....) you may as well play in a way that is the most fun, and this is the one system that gives an excitement boost, especially if you have several wins in a row, at least I tend to enjoy it on even money bets.
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December 30th, 2020 at 7:31:26 PM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

"Win a million dollars on Mississippi Stud! Just send me $50,000!"

Edit: I keep getting these auto warranty scam phone calls.



I forgot about this thread from ChumpChange (posted right when 2020 began to break bad).

Note the tweak to a 1-3-2-4.
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December 31st, 2020 at 12:48:50 PM permalink
I would be interested in the history of it.

Also would be interested in a similar method on video poker. Start by betting 1. If up, cash out and start over. If down, bet equal to all losses, or the smallest you can bet that is equal to or greater than total losses, up to 500, done on a 100 line machine.
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December 31st, 2020 at 1:04:09 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

Excellent video.

After turning 21 and getting into casinos I "discovered" the Martingale and thought I was a genius.

I legitimately thought that I had found a winning system and was afraid to tell others because of it getting out (in retrospect, I don't even know why that would be a rational fear).
This was short lived, I had a Stats professor around the same time who did a lecture on the Martingale one class and I felt like a fool (and not long later discovered WOO and other resources which quickly confirmed this). I think the simplicity in this system is why it is so enticing, and I imagine I am not the only one to "discover" it while experimenting with gambling.


When I was 19 or 20, I was certain that lottery numbers that had not come up in a long time were due, it just made sense at the time for some reason. And I bought several crappy $5 Kindle books on lottery strategy that confirmed!

I was learning Java at the time and was so convinced about all of this that I wrote a program to analyze historical lottery results and figure out which numbers were due to hit.

I’m not sure how I came to my senses exactly, but fortunately I never spent any money playing the numbers my program output.
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January 1st, 2021 at 4:54:34 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

When I was 19 or 20, I was certain that lottery numbers that had not come up in a long time were due, it just made sense at the time for some reason. And I bought several crappy $5 Kindle books on lottery strategy that confirmed!

I was learning Java at the time and was so convinced about all of this that I wrote a program to analyze historical lottery results and figure out which numbers were due to hit.

I’m not sure how I came to my senses exactly, but fortunately I never spent any money playing the numbers my program output.




this lady made a ton of money with these and other similar books - she didn't need to win the lottery - she found the human weakness jackpot


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January 1st, 2021 at 1:10:23 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

this lady made a ton of money with these and other similar books - she didn't need to win the lottery - she found the human weakness jackpot




A little off-topic, but if anyone has any kind of publication on a betting system, I am kindly asking to borrow/have it to debunk it.
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January 4th, 2021 at 11:20:39 AM permalink
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no, it's not a long run winner - but to me, this system is kind of fun
for an even chance bet like Player in baccarat -

the goal is to win 2, 3 or 4 in a row - if you do - you will have a profit

any loss at any point, or winning 4 in a row takes you back to the first bet in the series



the progression:



bet $100.............if win bet $300................if win bet $200.............if win bet $400


here are all of the possible things that can happen in the series


lose the first bet...........................lose $100

win the first bet but lose the 2nd bet..................net loss.... $200

win the first 2 bets but lose the 3rd bet......................................net profit......................$200

win the first 3 bets but lose the 4th bet..........................................................................................................net profit...................$200

win all 4 bets in a row..........................................win $1,000...............👍........................................√...√....√.....√




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