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September 17th, 2019 at 12:32:06 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Just upload it to a Youtrube account,
make it a private video, and give the
link to who you want.

Can you do that with your roulette system please?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 17th, 2019 at 2:28:49 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Can you do that with your roulette system please?



Why. You mock it and say it's
a joke. It's not a system, it's
a method. As I've been saying
for over 13 years.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 10:51:29 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Babs will be up against a 13 game winning champ -



That's what I said on Monday, that
the 11 game winner would continue
to prevail. Always be with a streak
and never against it. That way you
will only lose once.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 11:56:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

That's what I said on Monday, that
the 11 game winner would continue
to prevail. Always be with a streak
and never against it. That way you
will only lose once.

This might be true, however, it won't gain you an advantage or make you money on roulette or any of the other casino games.

In this situation it's not even close to a random event.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 18th, 2019 at 12:14:03 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

This might be true, however, it won't gain you an advantage



Sure it does, it manages losses.
You know a streak is happening,
you see it in front of you. Bet
with it and you can only lose once.
Bet against it and you can lose
many times.

My story of the guy who ran up
to a table hauling his suitcase at
the MGM is one I've told before.
He saw a board of solid red numbers
and bet black till he lost his whole
BR of $1500. Then he started screaming
'Cheat! Cheat!' Very entertaining.

If he'd bet with the streak he could
have only lost his $100 initial bet.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 12:31:16 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sure it does, it manages losses.
You know a streak is happening,
you see it in front of you. Bet
with it and you can only lose once.
Bet against it and you can lose
many times.

My story of the guy who ran up
to a table hauling his suitcase at
the MGM is one I've told before.
He saw a board of solid red numbers
and bet black till he lost his whole
BR of $1500. Then he started screaming
'Cheat! Cheat!' Very entertaining.

If he'd bet with the streak he could
have only lost his $100 initial bet.

Not playing at all woild be better since it eliminates losses so there's no need to manage them.

Since you have no idea when a streak will end or start it's meaningless. You still haven't figured out that past results are independent of future outcomes. Anything you do that makes you be less (managing losses) helps you lose less.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 18th, 2019 at 12:34:40 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Since you have no idea when a streak will end



So that's why you bet with it,
to limit your loss to one unit.
Managing loss is a huge part
of gambling that most ignore.
I bet Monday that the 11 game
winner would continue to win.
I'm up 2 units, and after tonight
I'll be up 3 or up 1. Winner.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 1:17:38 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sure it does, it manages losses.
You know a streak is happening,
you see it in front of you. Bet
with it and you can only lose once.
Bet against it and you can lose
many times.

My story of the guy who ran up
to a table hauling his suitcase at
the MGM is one I've told before.
He saw a board of solid red numbers
and bet black till he lost his whole
BR of $1500. Then he started screaming
'Cheat! Cheat!' Very entertaining.

If he'd bet with the streak he could
have only lost his $100 initial bet.


Please show that your roulette streak betting system is mathematically advantageous. I think the Wiz has a significant prize for such a feat.
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September 18th, 2019 at 1:20:53 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

So that's why you bet with it,
to limit your loss to one unit.
Managing loss is a huge part
of gambling that most ignore.
I bet Monday that the 11 game
winner would continue to win.
I'm up 2 units, and after tonight
I'll be up 3 or up 1. Winner.



50% of the time the streak ends at 1 in a row.
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September 18th, 2019 at 1:40:03 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Sure it does, it manages losses.
You know a streak is happening,
you see it in front of you. Bet
with it and you can only lose once.
Bet against it and you can lose
many times.



You are competing with Nathan.

Back to Jeopardy! 4 hours to go here.
I heart Crystal Math.
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:22:35 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Please show that your roulette streak betting system is mathematically advantageous.



If you have to bet streaks, it
limits your loss to one unit per
streak. Move onto the next
one. If you bet against the
streak you have to use a
progression if you lose. No
telling how much that loss
could be. Betting with the
streak you only bet once.
It's a loss limiting plan, not
a winning one.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:24:26 PM permalink
THE EVENBOB METHOD TO BEATING ROULETTE?

HUH? I never said this beats anything.
Loss limiting is not winning. Please
change the title or it's blocked by me.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:41:39 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

THE EVENBOB METHOD TO BEATING ROULETTE?

HUH? I never said this beats anything.
Loss limiting is not winning. Please
change the title or it's blocked by me.



I thought you've been claiming you could beat roulette since almost the beginning of this forum. However, maybe I misunderstood. What do you wish me to change the title to?
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:43:33 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I thought you've been claiming you could beat roulette since almost the beginning of this forum. However, maybe I misunderstood. What do you wish me to change the title to?



No!! Leave it.

When people first enter this forum and see a guy with 22,000 posts has beaten roullete , membership will soar
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:54:18 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

If you have to bet streaks, it
limits your loss to one unit per
streak. Move onto the next
one. If you bet against the
streak you have to use a
progression if you lose. No
telling how much that loss
could be. Betting with the
streak you only bet once.
It's a loss limiting plan, not
a winning one.



Every streak has a 50% chance of ending on the next spin. So no matter where you begin to call something a streak and jump in, you have a 50% chance of losing your bet.
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September 18th, 2019 at 3:54:22 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

This might be true, however, it won't gain you an advantage

Quote: EvenBob

Sure it does

You said it, Bob, now you have to defend it instead of ducking it
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September 18th, 2019 at 4:09:33 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I thought you've been claiming you could beat roulette



Not by betting on streaks, that would
be ridiculous. Change it to 'Betting
on Streaks'.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 18th, 2019 at 4:51:07 PM permalink
I was betting on streaks to win a 10 bet session on 6 wins in a row.. I'm shifting to winning three 10 bet sessions with 11 wins in a row, with an extra 10 bet session on each win after 11.
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September 18th, 2019 at 5:45:02 PM permalink
Why are such things always particular to given games?

Why not just flip a coin until you get 6 on one side. Then take the coin around looking for a chump to bet on/against the streak, not knowing which side is due?
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September 18th, 2019 at 6:13:13 PM permalink
What a silly thread. EvenBob your “bet the streak” strategy is the functional equivalent of bet anything you want but always stop after the first loss. With that rule you could bet against the streak and still guarantee that you only lose one unit (and you can win countless units if your bets keep being correct).
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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September 18th, 2019 at 8:12:53 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

is the functional equivalent of bet anything you want but always stop after the first loss.



In roulette it's a 'thing' to bet
with a progression that a streak
will end soon. It's based on the
fallacy that after 12 in a row it
just has to end in the next few
spins. And it usually does. Until
the time it doesn't and you lose
all your profits. Betting with the
streak will keep you very close
to even most of the time. And
give you lots of times to quit
when you're ahead.

You can make up more even
chance bets using the streets.
With O/E, R/B/. H/L, and two
made up of streets, that makes
five streams to follow and there
is always a streak going on in
one of them.
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September 18th, 2019 at 8:47:11 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Why. You mock it and say it's a joke. It's not a system, it's a method. As I've been saying for over 13 years.



Are there any details to this method? From what I can tell it's nothing more than go on the internet and claim to win at roulette. What I love methods like that is it's something anyone can do. What some people don't like about that sort of method is it means none of us are winning any money.
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September 18th, 2019 at 9:55:24 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

In roulette it's a 'thing' to bet
with a progression that a streak
will end soon. It's based on the
fallacy that after 12 in a row it
just has to end in the next few
spins. And it usually does. Until
the time it doesn't and you lose
all your profits. Betting with the
streak will keep you very close
to even most of the time. And
give you lots of times to quit
when you're ahead.

You can make up more even
chance bets using the streets.
With O/E, R/B/. H/L, and two
made up of streets, that makes
five streams to follow and there
is always a streak going on in
one of them.



Bottom line question for you Bob, about your Roullette method:

If every single time you place a bet on red or black , I go ahead and place a bet on the opposite color for the exact same amount as your bet , do you come out ahead of me as time goes by ?
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September 18th, 2019 at 9:56:17 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Why. You mock it and say it's
a joke. It's not a system, it's
a method. As I've been saying
for over 13 years.



Ahh method. Boy does that bring back memories of MrJ. His exact argument.
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September 18th, 2019 at 10:23:12 PM permalink
In a game of independent trials, there is no such thing as a streak. It does not exist except as defined in the past.

In a game of dependent trials like Jeopardy, streaks can be very profitable. Given the choice, betting on the Jeopardy champ to repeat is a fantastic bet, especially if you are given 2:1.
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September 18th, 2019 at 11:06:54 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

You can make up more even
chance bets using the streets.
With O/E, R/B/. H/L, and two
made up of streets, that makes
five streams to follow and there
is always a streak going on in
one of them.

never heard of anyone tracking streaks for evens and streets at the same time.

the 6 evens is plenty of work by themselves.
photo shows the 'running' streak count for the 6 'evens' in a sample of 0 Roulette spins


this was a BIG money maker as most 20 spin sets do not produce these long streaks
but they do happen and great to be on one... or two...
Last edited by: 7craps on Sep 19, 2019
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September 20th, 2019 at 11:45:58 AM permalink
I've always said that the key to winning roulette (or almost any casino game) is to get really good at predicting numbers. Just keep practicing until you can get them right most of the time, then... Profit!
A falling knife has no handle.
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September 20th, 2019 at 12:45:03 PM permalink
Always bet on alternating colors... red, then black, then red, then black.... that way when they stop alternating and go into a streak, you only lose once.
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September 20th, 2019 at 12:48:49 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Always bet on alternating colors... red, then black, then red, then black.... that way when they stop alternating and go into a streak, you only lose once.



Whatever. The only reason I brought
all of this up was, in roulette it's a
'thing' to bet against streaks. If you're
not a roulette player, you totally
won't get it, as you've made obvious.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 20th, 2019 at 1:05:01 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Whatever. The only reason I brought
all of this up was, in roulette it's a
'thing' to bet against streaks. If you're
not a roulette player, you totally
won't get it, as you've made obvious.



Naw, what he's saying is a streak, just a different one. You could bet odds, or evens, or odd/even. As long as they've been streaking, they're all streaks, just not red/black.
A falling knife has no handle.
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September 20th, 2019 at 1:33:06 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Whatever. The only reason I brought
all of this up was, in roulette it's a
'thing' to bet against streaks. If you're
not a roulette player, you totally
won't get it, as you've made obvious.



You'll be happy to know I do in fact "get it," because I have a grade school understanding of math and probabilities.

I'm not sure all the main participants in this thread can say the same, though.
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September 20th, 2019 at 2:49:03 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

You'll be happy to know I do in fact "get it," because I have a grade school understanding of math and probabilities.

I'm not sure all the main participants in this thread can say the same, though.



I know that the probability of red/black , even/odd is exactly the same on every spin. I also know that basing your bets on what’s happened in prior spins will never change that.

There’s really nothing more you need to know
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September 20th, 2019 at 2:52:12 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I know that the probability of red/black , even/odd is exactly the same on every spin. I also know that basing your bets on what’s happened in prior spins will never change that.

There’s really nothing more you need to know



Exactly.
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September 20th, 2019 at 4:16:36 PM permalink
Quote: Mosca

they're all streaks, just not red/black.



Who said it was just R/B? I named
5 even bets in roulette where
streaks occur.
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September 20th, 2019 at 4:21:48 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I know that the probability of red/black , even/odd is exactly the same on every spin.



And that's why betting against a
streak is ridiculous. Try telling
that to people do it, though.

Bet with a red streak and it's red,
you win, you're done betting.
Bet black and you lose, having to
bet again. You could stop with one
loss. but that's not the point. You
keep betting because a black is
'due' in your fantasy universe.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 20th, 2019 at 4:45:39 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Always be with a streak
and never against it. 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐰𝐚𝐲 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞.




no. it doesn't in any way mean you can't lose 10 times in a row.

you lose your streak bet so you bet the other way or on another even chance streak - you can lose that bet too

all of the even chances could have a "streak" of alternating results

your method didn't gain you anything compared to any other bet selection method

it is better than those who bet against the streak if they are using a martingale - but only because their bets are increasing so they will lose more than a player whose flat bet is the same as their initial bet on their marty





BTW: I've tried your "method" many times on the Wizard's free online games - never believing it was a winner - I just tried it for fun

it never was a winner for any significant length of time
Please don't feed the trolls
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September 20th, 2019 at 6:40:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Whatever. The only reason I brought
all of this up was, in roulette it's a
'thing' to bet against streaks. If you're
not a roulette player, you totally
won't get it, as you've made obvious.

So how do you qualify someone as a roulette player?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 20th, 2019 at 7:45:01 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So how do you qualify someone as a roulette player?



This thread would be a lot more entertaining, if a bunch of you had conspired to tell EB you discovered how his "method" works, and then come back every day and post how much money you were making with it.
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September 20th, 2019 at 7:49:16 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

So how do you qualify someone as a roulette player?



Anyone who understands that EB wins because he has a method qualifies as a roulette player. Any who doesn’t understand that he can win even when using a method is not a roulette player
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September 20th, 2019 at 7:50:15 PM permalink
I can't read most of this thread as blocked, but the title makes perfect sense. This is what we DO in all gambling, including say in Baccarat. I've made MA$$ doing this. Try to tell the two brothers on the top of floor of my hotel, currently up two million in Baccarat, that you don't bet streaks.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people. https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
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September 20th, 2019 at 8:07:17 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster



it never was a winner



ARRGUH!!! I never SAID it was a
winner, I never IMPLIED it was
a winner. In fact I said it was NOT
a winner! Good god!

It's a fricking method to manage
LOSSES. It's a way to make your
money last longer. Get IT? Got IT?

sigh..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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September 20th, 2019 at 9:00:40 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I can't read most of this thread as blocked, but the title makes perfect sense. This is what we DO in all gambling, including say in Baccarat. I've made MA$$ doing this. Try to tell the two brothers on the top of floor of my hotel, currently up two million in Baccarat, that you don't bet streaks.

Hey Bob, it looks like you're in good company. Great minds think alike, birds of a feather... and all that jazz.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 20th, 2019 at 9:48:10 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Hey Bob, it looks like you're in good company. Great minds think alike, birds of a feather... and all that jazz.



There’s nothing worse on this forum than MDawg endorsing your system
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September 21st, 2019 at 6:25:21 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

There’s nothing worse on this forum than MDawg endorsing your system




You need to lose the small player attitude. Only by playing big with big time players does one gain the ability to win big consistently.
MDawg is a winner because he thinks and plays bigly. Only silly and uninformed small players would mock him. Big players get it.
Just because you are too small to see his fantastic rainment doesn't mean he is naked. His clothes are tremendously fantastical.
Big time big. Bigly, even.
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September 21st, 2019 at 7:57:15 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

There’s nothing worse on this forum than MDawg endorsing your system



I can think of a few worse things/people on this forum....

At least an "endorsement" by MDawg at worst involves a couple people having a good time gambling.
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September 22nd, 2019 at 12:48:34 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

I can think of a few worse things/people on this forum....

At least an "endorsement" by MDawg at worst involves a couple people having a good time gambling.

Yeah I know, like when someone what type of thread called "BETTING ON STREAKS" and then attaches Forum name to it.

I request but the mods change the title to... BETTING ON STREAK IS DUMB.

p.s. Bob never said he does it for fun. You can't really think Bob ever has fun doing anything other than confirming his sardine order online. He claims his system(YES ITS A SYSTEM ) is a money maker.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 22nd, 2019 at 3:56:17 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

He claims his system(YES ITS A SYSTEM ) is a money maker.

So what is wrong with that. EVERYONE who either invents a system or adopts a system believes in it. Some believe in it quite passionately.
Even after the croupier (roulette dealer) tells them "you shot your self in the foot", they still believe in their system.

The only system that truly works is the one employed at Rick's Café Americaine in Casablanca. Or the stack pushing system employed in the Movie: The Croupier.
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September 22nd, 2019 at 4:23:17 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

ARRGUH!!! I never SAID it was a
winner, I never IMPLIED it was
a winner. In fact I said it was NOT
a winner! Good god!

It's a fricking method to manage
LOSSES. It's a way to make your
money last longer. Get IT? Got IT?

sigh..


So for clarity sake, is this streak betting system different than the AP roulette method you’ve been talking about long time?
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September 22nd, 2019 at 9:07:46 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

So for clarity sake, is this streak betting system different than the AP roulette method you’ve been talking about long time?



That one is still a secret.
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September 22nd, 2019 at 10:23:02 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

So for clarity sake, is this streak betting system



It's not a system, it's a method.
I never EVER bet streaks, why
would I, you can't win. This
whole thing started because
I bet the champ in Jeopardy
would continue to win because
my advice is always to bet with
streaks if you must bet on them.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
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