MLB Double Your Money
Quote: RSI think I'm learning this better now. Just so I'm not making any mistakes, when you say "If line goes below -150, then bet the run line, otherwise bet the ML" or whatever, in either case, you're saying to bet enough to win $25? Or in the more recent bet, it'd be a bet to win $70, right? That's to make up the $45 earlier loss and to add on $25? Appreciate the help (but more importantly, the winning picks :) ).
Quote: unJonI’m enjoying this thread. My understand is Series A is always bet enough to win $25. Series B bet to win back what you lost on series A plus $25. Etc.
Both correct.
Just curious in 2017 the Dodgers lost 11 consecutive games and in all 11 they were the favorite ranging from as low as -118 to as high as -300+(twice). Did this system get trashed at all during this and if not how/why did it avoid it?
This had to be one of the most unbelievable runs in sports to lose 11 straight games outright while favored in all 11?
According to Covers...
9/2/17 -118
9/2/17 -324
9/3/17 -200
9/4/17 -167
9/5/17 -145
9/6/17 -186
9/7/17 -300
9/8/17 -222
9/9/17 -229
9/10/17 -235
9/11/17 -200
How sick is that????
The Dodgers did end up making it to the World Series and losing to the Astros in 2017
Quote: RisingDoughjh111
Just curious in 2017 the Dodgers lost 11 consecutive games and in all 11 they were the favorite ranging from as low as -118 to as high as -300+(twice). Did this system get trashed at all during this and if not how/why did it avoid it?
This had to be one of the most unbelievable runs in sports to lose 11 straight games outright while favored in all 11?
According to Covers...
9/2/17 -118
9/2/17 -324
9/3/17 -200
9/4/17 -167
9/5/17 -145
9/6/17 -186
9/7/17 -300
9/8/17 -222
9/9/17 -229
9/10/17 -235
9/11/17 -200
How sick is that????
The Dodgers did end up making it to the World Series and losing to the Astros in 2017
Yea that was a crazy streak.
There was also SD in 2010 which lost 10 in a row from 8/26-9/5 (they were actually really good that year).
And Philadelphia in 2011 which lost 8 in a row from 9/18-24.
Just two more off the top of my head.
None of these teams would've qualified for a chase at any time during these streaks.
Although I can't tell you why, I can tell you that I use very strict parameters in deciding if a team qualifies for a new series. Which is why out of 4,860 games played during the regular season, we will only have action on about 65 of those.
Which is why I see this as more of an investment than a gamble.
- Chicago Cubs ML @ -177 on 4/17, 1910 EST (risking 44 to win 25)
Good Vibes!
Important Note: If the line drops to -150 or below at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the alternate run-line - Cubs +1.5.
Quote: jh111Yea that was a crazy streak.
There was also SD in 2010 which lost 10 in a row from 8/26-9/5 (they were actually really good that year).
And Philadelphia in 2011 which lost 8 in a row from 9/18-24.
Just two more off the top of my head.
None of these teams would've qualified for a chase at any time during these streaks.
Although I can't tell you why, I can tell you that I use very strict parameters in deciding if a team qualifies for a new series. Which is why out of 4,860 games played during the regular season, we will only have action on about 65 of those.
Which is why I see this as more of an investment than a gamble.
Yea it’s an investment, just like investing in stocks......like NTEK
Quote: BozYea it’s an investment, just like investing in stocks......like NTEK
Not a stock guy so not sure what you're saying - sounds like sarcasm though.
(8) Chicago Cubs ML @ -175 - A bet Win +$25
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1200
Overall Record/Units - 8-0, +8 units
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A Bets = 6-2
B Bets = 2-0
C Bets = none
Quote: billryanSo you are 20% of the way to your goal of doubling your br?
Yes - 32 more wins to go.
Quote: AxelWolfName one.
I think you missed the gist of my post with AP in quotations.
Quote: jh111Not a stock guy so not sure what you're saying - sounds like sarcasm though.
Don't sweat the naysayers.
A Wiseman speaks because he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something.
F.I.D.O.
I had to go back and look at what we were even talking about. And now that I did, I get it.Quote: SM777I think you missed the gist of my post with AP in quotations.
Quote: WatchMeWinNot a bad system at all. As he stated, you need extreme discipline and management skills. This system is definitely a marathon and not a race.
I’m sure he thanks you for giving his system “credibility “.
Quote: billryanDon't sweat the naysayers.
A Wiseman speaks because he has something to say. The fool speaks because he has to say something.
F.I.D.O.
No worries. I haven't done anything yet so they have every right to be skeptical. It's all good.
Awesome quote.
Quote: BozI’m sure he thanks you for giving his system “credibility “.
I do - thank you.
- Washington Nationals Alt RL +1.5 @ -250 on 4/19, 1910 EST (risking 63 to win 25)
Good Vibes!
Important Note: If the line rises to -151 or above at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Money Line.
Quote: jh111Series 9 - A Bet
- Washington Nationals Alt RL +1.5 @ -250 on 4/19, 1910 EST (risking 63 to win 25)
Good Vibes!
Important Note: If the line rises to -151 or above at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Money Line.
You are welcome for the previous thread... keep up the good work! I have bet MLB for a while now and have done better in MLB than the other sports. Ive never taken the plus rl line at high odds like you do from time to time. Have you won consistently on specifically the plus rl plays?
Quote: WatchMeWinYou are welcome for the previous thread... keep up the good work! I have bet MLB for a while now and have done better in MLB than the other sports. Ive never taken the plus rl line at high odds like you do from time to time. Have you won consistently on specifically the plus rl plays?
Never backtested how playing the Alt RL faired as an individual bet - but for what it’s worth, I can tell you that neither of the two system losses over the last 9 years had an Alt RL play at any point in the series.
(9) Washington Nationals Alt RL +1.5 @ -265 - A bet Win +$25
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1225
Overall Record/Units - 9-0, +9 units
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A Bets = 7-2
B Bets = 2-0
C Bets = none
- Washington Nationals ML @ -230 on 4/20, 1810 EST (risking 58 to win 25)
Good Vibes!
*NOTE: Could also be a play on 2nd game of Atl/Cle. Will post again only if there is.
Quote: jh111Series 10 - A Bet
- Washington Nationals ML @ -230 on 4/20, 1810 EST (risking 58 to win 25)
Good Vibes!
*NOTE: Could also be a play on 2nd game of Atl/Cle. Will post again only if there is.
Series #10
(10) Washington ML @ -245 - A bet Loss -$61
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1164
Overall Record/Units - 9-0, +9 units
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A Bets = 7-3
B Bets = 2-0
C Bets = none
Series 11 - A Bet
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- Washington Nationals ML @ -177 on 4/21, 1310 EST (risking 152 to win 86)
- Pittsburgh Pirates ML @ -152 on 4/21, 1335 EST (risking 38 to win 25)
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Good Vibes!
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Important Note: If either line drops to -150 or below at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the alternate run-line - +1.5.
- The system you use is very similar to Vegas Dave's system. Are you part of his crew or affiliated with them in any way?
- How you come up with your series A teams to bet? (sorry if you discussed this somewhere already) Aren't there better games to start Series A with than to start off with a line that is -250 or so? Pretty large vig to start. If the first two games go south... you really dig a large hole to get out of....
Quote: WatchMeWinHey JH111, Couple of questions for you..
- The system you use is very similar to Vegas Dave's system. Are you part of his crew or affiliated with them in any way?
- How you come up with your series A teams to bet? (sorry if you discussed this somewhere already) Aren't there better games to start Series A with than to start off with a line that is -250 or so? Pretty large vig to start. If the first two games go south... you really dig a large hole to get out of....
No idea who Vegas Dave is.
I'm sharing the picks, not the process...and it is what it is as far as the vig goes. As long as the system wins, the vig is irrelevant anyway.
Quote: jh111Series 10 - B Bet
Series 11 - A Bet
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- Washington Nationals ML @ -177 on 4/21, 1310 EST (risking 152 to win 86)
- Pittsburgh Pirates ML @ -152 on 4/21, 1335 EST (risking 38 to win 25)
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Good Vibes!
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Important Note: If either line drops to -150 or below at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the alternate run-line - +1.5.
Series #10 + #11
(10) Washington ML @ -180 - B bet Win +$86
(11) Pittsburgh Alt RL +1.5 @ -270 - A bet Win +$25
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1275
Overall Record/Units - 11-0, +11 units
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A Bets = 8-3
B Bets = 3-0
C Bets = none
Quote: jh111Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1275
I've never seen so much excitement on this forum for a glorified Martingale betting on favorites.
Fact is that the probability of getting from 1000 to 1275 before losing the 1000, with Rock, Paper, Scissors or a few coin tosses would have been around 78%
Now serious question... At any point in the sequence so far has the remaining bankroll been insufficient to place the requisite C bet in full?
Quote: OnceDearI've never seen so much excitement on this forum for a glorified Martingale betting on favorites.
It's truly incredible, honestly.
I find it so. Not the system: The excitement.Quote: SM777It's truly incredible, honestly.
Quote: OnceDearI've never seen so much excitement on this forum for a glorified Martingale betting on favorites.
Fact is that the probability of getting from 1000 to 1275 before losing the 1000, with Rock, Paper, Scissors or a few coin tosses would have been around 78%
Now serious question... At any point in the sequence so far has the remaining bankroll been insufficient to place the requisite C bet in full?
Not sure I would really call it excitement - more like just people asking questions and busting balls.
And I agree - there's a long way to go and I haven't proven s**t yet.
No. As long as you follow the recommendation of playing to win $25 for every $1000, not only will you always have more than enough to cover a C bet, but you will always have more than enough to cover multiple C bets.
The issue of say double your money in scale at 100,000 is much more appealing to me, however when you get into starting series A bets at 2500 laying hight juice, if that series gets to series C for some reason, the bet could be a 30k plus bet, and it would be very hard to lay that action. Keeping it at the low numbers makes more sense to those who are interdsted in the season long haul.
Quote: jh111Series #10 + #11
(10) Washington ML @ -180 - B bet Win +$86
(11) Pittsburgh Alt RL +1.5 @ -270 - A bet Win +$25
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1275
Overall Record/Units - 11-0, +11 units
***
A Bets = 8-3
B Bets = 3-0
C Bets = none
I guess one has to wait right until the first pitch to see if the line moves to 150 or less... in order to change their bet to the rl. That is the one critique I have with this. It worked out above, but what if someone gets their bets in early? Like I said , it worked out in the pirates game, but how often does a line moving from -154 to -147 come into play in order to justify laying 270? Rhetorical question... I know, that just what the system says to do.
Quote: WatchMeWinJust keep doing you, jh111. Im intrigued and looking forward to the results. The way I see it, this is a system to keep someone active in the MLB season. Double your money over the 7 months or so of MLB and not get hurt... not bad. Its not my cup of tea as I am less patient and go for larger quit hits.
The issue of say double your money in scale at 100,000 is much more appealing to me, however when you get into starting series A bets at 2500 laying hight juice, if that series gets to series C for some reason, the bet could be a 30k plus bet, and it would be very hard to lay that action. Keeping it at the low numbers makes more sense to those who are interdsted in the season long haul.
Yup - it definitely isn't for everyone.
Quote: WatchMeWinI guess one has to wait right until the first pitch to see if the line moves to 150 or less... in order to change their bet to the rl. That is the one critique I have with this. It worked out above, but what if someone gets their bets in early? Like I said , it worked out in the pirates game, but how often does a line moving from -154 to -147 come into play in order to justify laying 270? Rhetorical question... I know, that just what the system says to do.
Just comes with the territory and not sure how often it happens. Pitt was actually -145 for the last hour up until first pitch at Covers - so it really wasn't all that complicated if you were actually playing it.
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- Toronto Bluejays Alt RL +1.5 @ -215 on 4/23, 1907 EST (risking 54 to win 25)
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Good Vibes!
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Important Note: If the line rises to -151 or above at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Money Line - Toronto ML.
I had to lookQuote: jh111Series #10 + #11
(10) Washington ML @ -180 - B bet Win +$86
(11) Pittsburgh Alt RL +1.5 @ -270 - A bet Win +$25
both wagers lost,
so it gets interesting now!
season's 1st C bet and another B bet coming soon (I would imagine)
Washington lost 7-5
Pittsburgh (Alt RL +1.5) lost 12-4 (needed +8.5 to win)
MLB, imo, is a crawl this time of year especially with good pitching matchups.
NBA playoffs in full swing
keep the bets coming!
thanks
Hmmm. Am I misreading or did OP report both as wins on the prior page?Quote: 7crapsI had to look
both wagers lost,
so it gets interesting now!
season's 1st C bet and another B bet coming soon (I would imagine)
Washington lost 7-5
Pittsburgh (Alt RL +1.5) lost 12-4 (needed +8.5 to win)
MLB, imo, is a crawl this time of year especially with good pitching matchups.
NBA playoffs in full swing
keep the bets coming!
thanks
Since he posted those picks on Sunday morning, I would assume they would have been for Sunday's games:Quote: unJonHmmm. Am I misreading or did OP report both as wins on the prior page?
Pit 2 - SF 3
Was 5 - Mia 0
Did you forget? When you win you win, but when you lose, you still win.Quote: unJonHmmm. Am I misreading or did OP report both as wins on the prior page?
I have the ones listed on Monday, 4/22, I saw this while updating my spreadsheet.Quote: JoemanSince he posted those picks on Sunday morning, I would assume they would have been for Sunday's games:
Pit 2 - SF 3
Was 5 - Mia 0
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/32719-mlb-double-your-money/18/#post713727
April 21st, 2019 at 8:03:43 AM
Washington Nationals ML @ -177 on 4/21, 1310 EST (risking 152 to win 86)
Pittsburgh Pirates ML @ -152 on 4/21, 1335 EST (risking 38 to win 25)
now since I understand how the series bets work, looks like bankroll is heading down from a high
Quote: 7crapsI had to look
both wagers lost,
so it gets interesting now!
season's 1st C bet and another B bet coming soon (I would imagine)
Washington lost 7-5
Pittsburgh (Alt RL +1.5) lost 12-4 (needed +8.5 to win)
MLB, imo, is a crawl this time of year especially with good pitching matchups.
NBA playoffs in full swing
keep the bets coming!
thanks
7craps.... you are misreading. They both won. The second game was a little questionable with the change to run line if line drops under 150, however, it did fall within his directions and the line did move at some point. So the pirates were +1.5 in that game where they lost 3-2.
I just went back thru the bets and my spreadsheet is now correct. Both bets lost Monday 22nd (yesterday)Quote: WatchMeWin7craps.... you are misreading. They both won.
and 1 lost on the 21st
nice try
I still could be wrong here
Quote: jh111Series 10 - B Bet
Series 11 - A Bet
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- Washington Nationals ML @ -177 on 4/21, 1310 EST (risking 152 to win 86)
- Pittsburgh Pirates ML @ -152 on 4/21, 1335 EST (risking 38 to win 25)
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Good Vibes!
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Important Note: If either line drops to -150 or below at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the alternate run-line - +1.5.
The dates are listed on the post...4/21 was Sunday in my world.
Wash won 5-0
Pitt lost 2-3
At the time of this post Pitt was -152 on Covers, so the play was ML. But the closing line at Covers was -145, changing the play from ML to Alt RL +1.5...making both plays winners.
Quote: WatchMeWin7craps.... you are misreading. They both won. The second game was a little questionable with the change to run line if line drops under 150, however, it did fall within his directions and the line did move at some point. So the pirates were +1.5 in that game where they lost 3-2.
Thanks for trying...I think it may be a lost cause though.
Quote: 7crapsI just went back thru the bets and my spreadsheet is now correct. Both bets lost Monday 22nd (yesterday)
and 1 lost on the 21st
nice try
I still could be wrong here
7craps.... you need to read the posts correctly. The post jh111 made on the 22nd were updates from his series 10,11 games. They were not new bets. Im in no way affiliated with jh111, but I know what Im talking about and know how to read.
Quote: WatchMeWin7craps.... you need to read the posts correctly. The post jh111 made on the 22nd were updates from his series 10,11 games. They were not new bets. Im in no way affiliated with jh111, but I know what Im talking about and know how to read.
You're not helping with your snarky comments. I suggest you step back and let the OP explain any misunderstandings of his system or updates to bets.
I can try to read and understand better but I too old for that now days.Quote: WatchMeWin7craps.... you need to read the posts correctly. The post jh111 made on the 22nd were updates from his series 10,11 games. They were not new bets.
but I thought a C bet was in the works.
I guess I am 100% wrong, thanks for showing what I missed. I guess I now owe you lots of money 4 that as I did not make any of those bets.
actually I have yet to bet on his bets he posts just like he has yet to make any bets on them, I think that is what he has said in the past.(I could be wrong on that 2)
good luck.
thanks again
It did not come across to me as 'snarky'Quote: beachbumbabsYou're not helping with your snarky comments.
"I know what Im talking about and know how to read."
IF he thinks he is greater than GOD cuz he can read, excellent!
and he knows he is greater than me, more excellent
no one cares.
excellent!
I guess U R just doing your job (job is a poor word to use here)
Quote: 7crapsIt did not come across to me as 'snarky'
"I know what Im talking about and know how to read."
IF he thinks he is greater than GOD cuz he can read, excellent!
and he knows he is greater than me, more excellent
no one cares.
excellent!
I guess U R just doing your job (job is a poor word to use here)
Yup. I’m back on board that both bets won.
Quote: jh111Series 12 - A Bet
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- Toronto Bluejays Alt RL +1.5 @ -215 on 4/23, 1907 EST (risking 54 to win 25)
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Good Vibes!
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Important Note: If the line rises to -151 or above at Covers, you will need to place your wager on the Money Line - Toronto ML.
Series #12
(12) Toronto Alt RL +1.5 @ -200 - A bet Win +$25
Starting Bankroll - $1000 (playing TO WIN $25 for every $1000)
Current Bankroll - $1300
Overall Record/Units - 12-0, +12 units
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A Bets = 9-3
B Bets = 3-0
C Bets = none
