Quote: rainmanI think I see a pattern developing. Hmmm... perhaps this could be the start of a winning system. :)
Stair at it long enough you can make out a face.
Quote: WizardI'm thinking of throwing up some more shoes on my site anyway. The 2,000 I have now show every card, which may be more information that is needed. What do you think of this format:
1-PPBBPPPBBBBPBPPTPPBPPPBPPBTTBPBPBBBBBBPPBBBPBBTBBTPBPBBBBBBPTBPBPBBTBBBTBBBBBPPTP
Perfect format.
Too bad we don't see streaks like those with real cards.
Maybe in Canada.
Quote: WizardI'm thinking of throwing up some more shoes on my site anyway. The 2,000 I have now show every card, which may be more information that is needed. What do you think of this format: (snip)
I'd use a CSV format for at least the data, and probably also the summary data for comparison. How about:
ShoeNumber, Hand1, Hand2, Hand3, Hand4, ..., HandN
ShoeNumber, Hand1, Hand2, Hand3, Hand4, ..., HandN
...
ShoeNumber, Hand1, Hand2, Hand3, Hand4, ..., HandN
Player, 3689
Banker, 3788
Tie, 791
You can dump that directly into Excel and compute various things from it, including the P/B/T ratios. But the initial structure requires more parsing than CSV.
Quote: MathExtremistI'd use a CSV format for at least the data, and probably also the summary data for comparison.
I argued with myself about that. If I put a delimiter between each hand it will double the size of the file.
Quote: AxelWolfWizard I think you should have a specific rule that states you may not use this site to entice or recruit players in any way, for any mathematically unproven system.
Every system is mathematically proven, just not the way the system player wants it to be!
The system is only unproven until it arrives here for inspection.
Quote: WizardI argued with myself about that. If I put a delimiter between each hand it will double the size of the file.
True, but it's not the 1980s anymore. The distinction between 1 vs 2 MB is negligible w.r.t. modern storage limits, and that's far more data than you're likely to generate. These days I almost always favor saving time over space.
ok add the word winning. and I was serious about that. Why are people allowed to openly try to recruit people here? I have a feeling a rule concerning that would discourage some people.Quote: Mission146Every system is mathematically proven, just not the way the system player wants it to be!
Quote: MathExtremistTrue, but it's not the 1980s anymore. The distinction between 1 vs 2 MB is negligible w.r.t. modern storage limits, and that's far more data than you're likely to generate. These days I almost always favor saving time over space.
True. However, old habits from the punch card days are hard to break.
Here is another 25,000 shoes. Just 4.06 MB. I checked if it was too big for Excel, but it took only a second or two to load.
For those with a slow Internet connection, here are the first 10 shoes:
1,P,B,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,T,B,T,B,T,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,T,B,P,B,P,T,P,P,P,P,B,P,P,P,B,B,B,B,P,T,P,P,B,B,P,B
2,B,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,T,B,P,B,B,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,P,B,P,P,T,P,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,B,B,P,B,P,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,B,P,B,P,B,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,T,P,B,B
3,B,T,B,P,P,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,T,P,P,T,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,T,B,P,P,B,B,B,P,B,P,T,P,B,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,T,P,P,P,T,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,T,B,P,P,B,B,T,P,B,B,P,B
4,P,B,B,B,P,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,B,P,B,P,P,P,B,B,P,P,B,T,B,P,P,T,B,B,P,B,P,T,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,P,T,B,T,P,P,P,P,P,P,T,B,P,P,B,T,P,B,B,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,P,P,P,P
5,P,P,P,P,P,P,T,P,T,B,B,P,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,T,P,T,B,P,B,P,B,B,T,B,P,B,B,P,P,B,T,P,B,P,B,T,B,B,B,B,P,P,B,P,P,P,P,T,B,P,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,B,T,P,P,B,P,P,B,B,B,P
6,P,P,B,P,T,B,B,P,B,P,P,B,T,P,B,B,B,T,B,B,P,B,B,P,T,B,P,B,P,B,T,B,P,B,B,B,P,B,P,P,P,P,B,B,T,P,B,P,T,B,P,B,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,B,B,B,B,P,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,P,B
7,P,B,P,B,T,B,B,B,B,T,P,P,P,P,B,B,T,B,B,P,T,P,B,B,T,B,P,T,P,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,T,P,P,B,P,P,B,P,P,B,B,T,B,T,P,P,P,T,B,B,B,P,P,P,B,P,B,B,B,B,P,T,B,T,P,B,P,B,B
8,B,B,P,B,B,B,B,P,P,B,T,P,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,P,T,B,P,P,B,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,P,P,T,B,T,P,P,B,B,B,P,T,B,B,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,B,P,P,P,B,T,P,P,B,B,B,B,P,P,B,P,B,B,T
9,P,P,P,B,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,P,T,P,P,B,B,B,B,B,B,P,B,P,P,B,P,B,P,B,B,B,B,B,B,B,T,B,P,B,P,B,P,P,B,B,T,P,B,B,B,P,P,P,B,B,B,T,B,B,B,B,P,B,P,B,B,P,P,B,P,P,B,B,B,P,T,P,B,B,P
10,T,P,P,T,B,P,B,B,P,B,P,P,B,T,P,B,P,T,P,P,P,P,P,P,P,P,B,P,P,P,B,P,B,B,P,T,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,B,B,B,P,P,B,B,B,B,B,P,P,P,B,B,P,B,P,T,T,T,T,P,P,B,B,P,P,B,B,P,P,P,P,B,P,P