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February 29th, 2016 at 10:02:02 AM permalink
Interesting story in the RJ. Passed this place a few times on the ride to Laughlin and often thought of stopping but never did. Also a head turner on how she married her stepson.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/after-51-years-owner-pilot-town-cal-nev-ari-wants-sell
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February 29th, 2016 at 10:08:50 AM permalink
Quote: Boz

Interesting story in the RJ. Passed this place a few times on the ride to Laughlin and often thought of stopping but never did. Also a head turner on how she married her stepson.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/after-51-years-owner-pilot-town-cal-nev-ari-wants-sell



My wife and I stop there every time we go to Laughlin. For those not familiar it is a dump of a little bar, a diner, a post office, a gourmet room, and the airport terminal that I have never seen a plane land at. It seems to be the focus of the little town that consists of a bunch of trailers.

BTW, they still have Sneak-A-Peek poker.
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February 29th, 2016 at 10:58:12 AM permalink
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My wife and I stop there every time we go to Laughlin. For those not familiar it is a dump of a little bar, a diner, a post office, a gourmet room, and the airport terminal that I have never seen a plane land at. It seems to be the focus of the little town that consists of a bunch of trailers.

BTW, they still have Sneak-A-Peek poker.


Drich the casino is just a couple of slot machines at this point right? No BJ or poker tables even if they were just closed when you were there?
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February 29th, 2016 at 12:15:38 PM permalink
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Drich the casino is just a couple of slot machines at this point right? No BJ or poker tables even if they were just closed when you were there?



Yes, just slot machines. I would guess there are about 25 slot machines total.
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February 29th, 2016 at 12:39:04 PM permalink
Where there ever table games and poker?
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February 29th, 2016 at 12:41:06 PM permalink
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Where there ever table games and poker?



I don't think there has been in the last 15 years that I have been stopping there.
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February 29th, 2016 at 1:16:07 PM permalink
I believe that both rdw4potus and I have stopped by there hoping to get souvenir chips -- perhaps other collectors around here, too.

When I was there, I saw one BJ table against a wall, with maybe something displayed on top. From a brief conversation with someone behind a counter there, my understanding was that the table hadn't been used in years, but that if I really, really wanted a chip, I might be able to convince the owner to dig one up. My impression was that perhaps it would necessitate that I offer the "right" price. I didn't follow up on that.
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February 29th, 2016 at 1:58:40 PM permalink
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I believe that both rdw4potus and I have stopped by there hoping to get souvenir chips -- perhaps other collectors around here, too.

When I was there, I saw one BJ table against a wall, with maybe something displayed on top. From a brief conversation with someone behind a counter there, my understanding was that the table hadn't been used in years, but that if I really, really wanted a chip, I might be able to convince the owner to dig one up. My impression was that perhaps it would necessitate that I offer the "right" price. I didn't follow up on that.


If that price is $1 then I'm in!
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February 29th, 2016 at 3:11:53 PM permalink
Would collecting a chip that was not offered in casino play be in accord with your current collecting strategy?

;-)
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February 29th, 2016 at 4:24:40 PM permalink
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Would collecting a chip that was not offered in casino play be in accord with your current collecting strategy?

;-)


I would probably just play a slot machine. I have only ended up in this situation once before. I visited Casino White Cloud in Kansas and when I got there they had permanently replaced their live tables with E-BJ. I played the FP they gave me and then a cashier offered to sell me a chip since they still had them locked up in the vault. I happily bought one. In my mind I both visited and gambled in that casino so that satisfies me for it to be part of my collection.
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February 29th, 2016 at 7:02:53 PM permalink
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I would probably just play a slot machine. I have only ended up in this situation once before. I visited Casino White Cloud in Kansas and when I got there they had permanently replaced their live tables with E-BJ. I played the FP they gave me and then a cashier offered to sell me a chip since they still had them locked up in the vault. I happily bought one. In my mind I both visited and gambled in that casino so that satisfies me for it to be part of my collection.

A new chip is a new chip. Did you post it here? You go, you gamble there, I don't care if you have to cuddle up with the bartender's ugly cousin. A new chip is a new chip ;-)
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February 29th, 2016 at 7:08:15 PM permalink
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A new chip is a new chip. Did you post it here? You go, you gamble there, I don't care if you have to cuddle up with the bartender's ugly cousin. A new chip is a new chip ;-)


Lol maybe someday, won't be able to even try and get there during spring fling won't have time.
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February 29th, 2016 at 7:28:48 PM permalink
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Lol maybe someday, won't be able to even try and get there during spring fling won't have time.

I meant to say "go do an ugly one for the team, we'll all be proud of you". Laughing. Don't forget the chip!
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February 29th, 2016 at 7:58:02 PM permalink
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I meant to say "go do an ugly one for the team, we'll all be proud of you". Laughing. Don't forget the chip!


Lmao can't forget the chip after all that
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March 2nd, 2016 at 8:14:47 PM permalink
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Yes, just slot machines. I would guess there are about 25 slot machines total.

I have only stopped there a few times. I can't remember what limits they have on slots but now I'm curious what happens if you hit for like 4k or something like that?
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March 2nd, 2016 at 8:30:36 PM permalink
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I have only stopped there a few times. I can't remember what limits they have on slots but now I'm curious what happens if you hit for like 4k or something like that?



I never really payed attention to the denoms other than they have nickel and quarter machines that still dispense coin. There may be a couple of $1 games in the bar but I am not sure. I would be surprised if there was anything newer than 15 years old in there.
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March 2nd, 2016 at 9:43:53 PM permalink
I stopped in there a few months ago.

At the bar they had $0.25 6/5 JOB that dispensed coins. It was one where you had to hit "Max Bet" every game.

There were a few very old looking slot machines. Didn't look at the slots much if at all. Cal Nev Ari didn't have a players club or anything like that. No promotions from what the lady in there told me.

It was very late at night / early morning when I was there, no people except the one bartender lady. I can't imagine that place getting too busy or making much if any money. It seemed like a sad little place. The tiny shack doubled as a post office on the left side, and a restaurant on the right side / back area, with a bar smack dab in the middle.


Cool place to stop for a few minutes, but don't expect anything fun or exciting.
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April 13th, 2018 at 8:23:56 PM permalink
I've driven by Cal Nev Ari several times. Between 1999 and 2004 I drove to Laughlin a half dozen times. This is when there were 5 casinos in Laughlin that had 3:2 SD blackjack, Colorado Belle, Flamingo, Edgewater, Laughlin Nugget and the Pioneer. (The Colorado Belle was D10.) I would drive from Southern California, spend a night in Laughlin and then make the drive to Vegas for a night or two. On the way to Vegas I would drive by Cal Nev Ari but I never stopped in.

Yesterday I just happened to be reading about this little town with its small casino. Then I saw a story on YouTube about how this town was on the market for $8,000,000. It had been on the market for $17,000,000 back in 2010.

The Casino City web site mentions that there are 16 slot machines and one poker and one blackjack table.

I got curious about the blackjack game and so I called the casino. I was told they only have 16 slot machines--no poker or blackjack tables.

On the drive from Laughlin to Vegas you will travel through Railroad Pass. Their casino also used to have SD, 3:2 blackjack. Last time I was there they had only DD with 50% pen.
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April 13th, 2018 at 8:52:29 PM permalink
I stopped in a couple years ago to see about getting a chip. The blackjack table was (is?) against the wall across from the bar. It's covered in vinyl, with napkins and condiments on it. Pretty well scared the occupants when I opened the door. I don't think they get much more business than a couple regulars & those ladies were already there.
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April 13th, 2018 at 9:13:01 PM permalink
Things to remember:
Air Parks are usually quite profitable but usually require a good runway and a good restaurant. On-site fuel is optional. Just besure that all residents have Airman's Certificates and the deeds impose a levy for runway maintenance. Its important to not let non pilots have voting rights or they will vote the runway out of existence. Even a small FBO on the site is a good idea. Just remember that touch and goes need to be restricted if its a residence area.

the casino has an Unrestricted license so they can revert to being a "real" casino once key personnel of the buyer become licensed.

RV parks are often profitable but require utilities, paved pads, etc. Even that trailer park created by the owner of the brothels made far more money than Confort ever expected it would and provided him with voter clout.

Even that bar I posted about earlier that is only open on weekends and only for half the year makes a tidy profit so don't think this would not be a bargain.

The Wizard would probably go for it if it had hills and a unicycle club.
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April 13th, 2018 at 9:29:52 PM permalink
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The Wizard would probably go for it if it had hills and a unicycle club.



Hills are nearby. Then he could open the blackjack table and hire Angela Wyman as a dealer.
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April 13th, 2018 at 9:41:08 PM permalink
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The Wizard would probably go for it if it had hills and a unicycle club.



There is a good hill between there an Laughlin. However, I kind of doubt it has a thriving unicycle scene. Heck, even in Vegas, I think I am the unicycle scene.
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April 14th, 2018 at 1:25:58 AM permalink
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There is a good hill between there an Laughlin. However, I kind of doubt it has a thriving unicycle scene. Heck, even in Vegas, I think I am the unicycle scene.

I'd try for a recumbent then. Or arrange for a fake dispute between two different types of unicycles and let the publicity draw out those with interest in it.
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April 14th, 2018 at 1:50:18 AM permalink
This should be worth more than Nipton went for. It has it's own air strip.
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April 14th, 2018 at 7:01:11 AM permalink
I stop at Cal-Nev-Ari about three times per year when going to or leaving Laughlin. They still have Sneak-a-Peek video poker. I usually just order one beer and then head back out on the road.

They do offer an advantage play: FREE POPCORN
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April 14th, 2018 at 7:33:21 AM permalink
Stopped on the way to Laughlin and Lake Havasu once. Not much to see. Also stopped at the casino and McDonalds in Searchlight. Probably the smokiest casino I was ever in. They looked at you like there was something shady about you if you didn't have a cigarette in your hands. And Sam Adams Boston Lager was the closest thing to a quality beer in the place.
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April 14th, 2018 at 7:40:33 AM permalink
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This should be worth more than Nipton went for. It has it's own air strip.

An airstrip is a value even if unpaved. Beware that "published landing pattern" does not require official FAA publishing. You put up a sign and you print it in the local pennysaver publication and it is therefore "published' This gives you Air Rights even over land that is not in the town.

Note also that all they need is some water source for crops.
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April 14th, 2018 at 7:40:34 AM permalink
I'd install hydration "palms" of the sort they have in Phoenix.

I'd also import some industry that makes fuel cells... they produce water.
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April 14th, 2018 at 10:38:05 AM permalink
The town also has a Coast Guard base, doesn't it?
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April 14th, 2018 at 10:44:13 AM permalink
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The town also has a Coast Guard base, doesn't it?


Doesn't look like it on Google Maps.
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April 14th, 2018 at 10:44:47 AM permalink
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The town also has a Coast Guard base, doesn't it?



I believe it was in Searchlight but it closed a few years ago.
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April 14th, 2018 at 11:39:08 AM permalink
I'm glad to hear from others there's "not much to see" in their view. So maybe my nearly blank recollection isn't just dementia, 'cause I'm positive I've been there at least several times over the last six or eight years, just from experimenting & taking different routes aimlessly for no good reason and checking some of the different little wide spots along the way just to be different than my usual stuff. And other than a hazy notion of some kind of little general store next to the road that had some handy plumbing fixtures, along with a surplus of dust, I still can't remember a single distinct thing from the experience. Which lack of lasting impression I'm pretty sure is what accounts for me having repeated it.

But something peculiar to me is when I did a quickie web search to try to refresh the memory I don't have, I stumbled across a place advertised for sale for $230,000 (reduced from $260k), which seems like a surprisingly high asking price to me. Okay it is 3 bed 2 bath with a big extra RV garage and it works out to about $150 per sq. ft. But it's a 1979 "mobile/manufactured" place that's been plopped down pretty much as close to nowhere as someone can get and still have some utilities. So not quite what's required to become the son of Unabomber's dream hideout, but probably not real far from it. I am probably missing or misunderstanding something important about it - something that makes it different than a couple of the neighbor's places that are waiting to be yours for < $100k asking price.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/38-Cheyenne-Rd-Cal-nev-ari-NV-89039/2091931710_zpid/?fullpage=true

EDIT: Yeah, there were some transmission towers at a little "station" maintained by the Coast Guard near Searchlight that served some kind of navigation functions as I understand it. It was closed about eight years ago, from what I read partly due to GPS technology making it redundant.

A brief page with data on what was "LORAN Station Searchlight" with dates & coordinates & suchlike:
http://www.loran-history.info/searchlight/searchlight.htm

Short general narrative story titled "The Last Place on Earth" with info on what those kinds of gizmos used to do and description of some experiences working at one for the Coast Guard, in the words of techs who were at one of them on Attu Island in the Aleutians of Alaska:
http://coastguardnews.com/loran-station-attu-the-last-place-on-earth/2010/09/02/

Las Vegas CBS Channel 8 story "I-Team: Vandals, looters trash government facility in Searchlight" Feb 04, 2015:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/iteam-vandals-looters-trash-government-facility-in-searchlight/66644245
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April 14th, 2018 at 11:47:31 AM permalink
Palm Gardens just a bit south looks nice.
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April 14th, 2018 at 3:00:36 PM permalink
Is this the least valuable casino in the worst location in the U.S.? In North America? If you were going to designate a town as "Nevada's Anus" would this be it?
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April 14th, 2018 at 4:47:21 PM permalink
Palm Gardens should be a required study for anyone who thinks to get into real estate.
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April 14th, 2018 at 9:50:59 PM permalink
Directly under the bottom of Nevada's anal region on maps of that part of the Mojave Desert you'll find there's an empty mostly featureless blotch on the cartography, which is not a printing error, but instead is the location of an actual hulking menace on the landscape immediately to the NW of the fabulous center of culture & commerce of Needles, CA. Stretched along a bit of that part of the border of NV, it's distinguished by the charming (and redundant) name of "Dead Mountains Wilderness Area."

Next to the adjoining empty valley of dust on the west flank of the Earth's scar, zooming in with a satellite view on the wonderful treasure of Dead's officially designated Area to get Wilder reveals it to be comprised of some profoundly barren grey mountains upon which nothing more substantial than a scorpion could possibly ever live. No doubt a very lost, lonely & deeply sad scorpion. So my kind of quiet neighbor that won't borrow my power tools.

Picture from Heaven: https://goo.gl/maps/LaJeJEoquRy (Palm Gardens & Cal-Nev-Ari conveniently only ~8 to 10-ish miles north of the Dead marker on this satellite photo.)
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April 15th, 2018 at 10:43:05 PM permalink
I looked at the inside of the casino through Google Maps, and man are those machines old! Those video poker machines might be the kind you can emulate on a PC!
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March 30th, 2021 at 12:08:09 PM permalink
The casino and restaurant is attempting to reopen on April 1.

From Las Vegas Journal-Review, early March 2021:

The 6,000-square-foot Cal-Nev-Ari Casino property is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. during the day but only because it also operates as a post office. The casino and attached restaurant remain closed because of operating restrictions, according to owner Nancy Kidwell.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/13-nevada-casinos-still-closed-after-pandemic-shutdown-2303568/
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March 30th, 2021 at 5:08:46 PM permalink
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The casino and restaurant is attempting to reopen on April 1.

From Las Vegas Journal-Review, early March 2021:

The 6,000-square-foot Cal-Nev-Ari Casino property is open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. during the day but only because it also operates as a post office. The casino and attached restaurant remain closed because of operating restrictions, according to owner Nancy Kidwell.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/13-nevada-casinos-still-closed-after-pandemic-shutdown-2303568/



Did Cal-Nev-Ari ever sell a few years ago? I think they were asking $6 million.
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March 30th, 2021 at 5:19:27 PM permalink
I don't believe so.
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March 31st, 2021 at 2:23:58 PM permalink
'Twas for sale for $8 million and was still for sale as of 2018. No news about it being sold, so I assume it's available for the plucking.
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March 31st, 2021 at 2:55:18 PM permalink
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'Twas for sale for $8 million and was still for sale as of 2018. No news about it being sold, so I assume it's available for the plucking.



I think the original asking price was almost twice that.
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August 30th, 2021 at 4:37:08 PM permalink
BREAKING NEWS!!! (From a week ago)

Cal-Nev-Ari is SOLD!!!
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August 30th, 2021 at 5:39:22 PM permalink
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BREAKING NEWS!!! (From a week ago)

Cal-Nev-Ari is SOLD!!!

Apparently she plans on getting a new plane and flying around the world, God bless her, God help us.
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August 30th, 2021 at 5:49:10 PM permalink
Best of luck to both the new and old owners. I'm not sure about building multiple plants there. The nearest grocery store has to be an hours drive, and I don't believe there are any schools there.
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August 30th, 2021 at 8:40:58 PM permalink
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Best of luck to both the new and old owners. I'm not sure bout building multiple plants there. The nearest grocery store has to be an hours drive, and I don't believe their are any schools there.

Not quite that far. Laughlin is a 25 minute drive
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August 30th, 2021 at 9:33:15 PM permalink
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Not quite that far. Laughlin is a 25 minute drive



There aren't any real grocery stores in Laughlin. There is a Safeway in Bullhead City and a Dollar General about a mile or two up 68 if you make a left over the bridge.
Not an hour but good forty minutes.
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August 31st, 2021 at 8:28:22 AM permalink
I always wanted to fly into Cal-Nev-Ari but I never did. A friend of mine flew in for lunch. The last time I was there which was about a year ago they still had Sneak-A-Peek video poker. That is the only one I have seen in close to 20 years.
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August 31st, 2021 at 12:06:16 PM permalink
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I always wanted to fly into Cal-Nev-Ari but I never did. A friend of mine flew in for lunch. The last time I was there which was about a year ago they still had Sneak-A-Peek video poker. That is the only one I have seen in close to 20 years.



It's a great place to play old slots and video poker. They have nickel-only games, an original Reel 'Em In, and two VLC Winning Touch machines. According to a member of the slot collectors forum, only one slot repair guy in Vegas has the key chips that can reset the VLC machines after a battery swap or for other issues.
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August 31st, 2021 at 1:19:01 PM permalink
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According to a member of the slot collectors forum, only one slot repair guy in Vegas has the key chips that can reset the machine after a battery swap or for other issues.



That would surprise me. All of those games were popular enough that I am sure there are key chips out there for them. I probably have some old Sigma and WMS chips in a closet somewhere.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
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