AlanMendelson
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August 29th, 2021 at 12:53:46 AM permalink
What do the casinos along the Gulf Coast do with their vaults when they shut down during a hurricane?

Are there still security personnel in the vault areas?

This is not a flippant question. About five years ago there was a fire at Caesars Palace in Vegas that forced the evacuation of the casino. The entire casino was shut down. Security, firemen and police ordered everyone out as the casino filled with smoke.

As most of you know Caesars has two adjoining casinos -- the Palace Casino and the Forum Casino. Both were filled with smoke and both were shut down.

Players had to cash out of their machines and take their tickets. Table players had to put their chips in their pockets. Table game covers were put on and locked.

But wait...

At the Caesars Cage the two cashiers on duty were not able to leave. I was there and watched a fire chief and a policeman telling the cashiers to go and the cashiers said they weren't allowed to. They also said there was no procedure for them to leave.

Think about that. You'd think they could lock their cash drawers and walk out but NO, they said there was no procedure for them to abandon their cage positions.

And these were two cashiers. What about the actual workers in the vault and in the count room?

I never followed up.

But now that I'm watching the news about Hurricane Ida I wonder what procedures the Gulf Coast casinos have since the hurricane threat is yearly.
gamerfreak
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August 29th, 2021 at 5:33:42 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Think about that. You'd think they could lock their cash drawers and walk out but NO, they said there was no procedure for them to abandon their cage positions.


LMAO there is no way I sitting in a fire to potentially save a few thousand dollars in CETís money, all for $15/hour.

Anyone who doesnít abandon the cash in that situation needs their head checked.

BYE FELICIA
joedol
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August 29th, 2021 at 6:21:56 AM permalink
I wonder if our resident "casino security expert" can answer that question.
billryan
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August 29th, 2021 at 6:44:22 AM permalink
Wouldn't a vault be the safest place to be in a hurricane? If anything survives the storm, I'd imagine it would be the vault.
ChumpChange
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August 29th, 2021 at 6:48:22 AM permalink
Casinos have had the past 12-36 hours to shut down. If there was a power blackout like in Texas they'd have very little notice and probably have to evacuate the casino floor once they got the phone alert from the Emergency Text Centers. Still not as bad as an imminent fire. Casinos were washed away with Katrina, so nobody should be there. If you have outstanding chips, I guess the house lost. Storm surge expected to be 6 to 9 feet, with 15-25 foot waves on top (?), and over 10" of rain.

Just saw a photo of the Caesars Superdome in New Orleans.
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rxwine
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August 29th, 2021 at 6:59:40 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Wouldn't a vault be the safest place to be in a hurricane? If anything survives the storm, I'd imagine it would be the vault.



I'd be content to be in a vault during a fire, if that was the only option. Hurricanes last for hours. I don't think vaults have ventilation. If they do, they probably aren't safe in a fire.

...on second thought, not really sure about a fire. I'm sure the money would survive the inside temp at 130F. Like most things with all that mass, once heated up, it's going to stay roasting inside.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
billryan
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August 29th, 2021 at 7:14:02 AM permalink
Luckily, we have our very own casino security expert here who can answer these questions.
ChumpChange
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August 29th, 2021 at 7:14:39 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine


...on second thought, not really sure about a fire. I'm sure the money would survive the inside temp at 130F. Like most things with all that mass, once heated up, it's going to stay roasting inside.



I wonder if Canadian money would melt or disintegrate at certain temperatures. They switched their currency from paper money to something else last decade and people were complaining it smelled funny.
AlanMendelson
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August 29th, 2021 at 8:29:32 AM permalink
No one brought up banks.

Banks do lock their doors and their vaults with no one inside.

But that incident at Caesars Palace makes me think casinos don't just lock up and leave... unless the Caesars incident was a big error?

During the Covid shutdowns there was still security personnel at the casinos.
gamerfreak
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August 29th, 2021 at 8:57:47 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Wouldn't a vault be the safest place to be in a hurricane? If anything survives the storm, I'd imagine it would be the vault.


Iíd be concerned about flooding more than anything

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