DeMango
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May 22nd, 2021 at 9:53:31 AM permalink
Agree TD. Smokers are just selfish people. Their drug dependence trumps your health especially the captive dealers.
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May 22nd, 2021 at 10:20:39 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Agree TD. Smokers are just selfish people. Their drug dependence trumps your health especially the captive dealers.


The casino bosses lobby hard to keep smoking. Guess what?...they arenít on the floor and Iíll guarantee every single one of them would never allow someone to smoke in their car or in their home. They will, however, allow you to smoke in their business. It was always money, never health. Itís a powerful lobby here in Nevada where every politician is bought. They all know it shouldnít be allowed. Money talks, the science walks.
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May 22nd, 2021 at 8:27:53 PM permalink
Quote: DeMango

Agree TD. Smokers are just selfish people. Their drug dependence trumps your health especially the captive dealers.



I think this is an unfair generalization.

I would not call myself a smoker. I cannot recall the last time I smoked a cigarette (it would be Pre-COVID). But, I like to smoke at casinos, it is part of the experience. I think an adult place like casinos, where people go to let loose and not worry at all about health, smoking should be allowed. Nobody who is obsessed about their health would go to a casino in the first place. It is an adult vice that some enjoy. And, casinos are unique in being a legal place to indulge in multiple vices with no stigma.
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May 22nd, 2021 at 9:15:32 PM permalink
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I think this is an unfair generalization.

I would not call myself a smoker. I cannot recall the last time I smoked a cigarette (it would be Pre-COVID). But, I like to smoke at casinos, it is part of the experience. I think an adult place like casinos, where people go to let loose and not worry at all about health, smoking should be allowed. Nobody who is obsessed about their health would go to a casino in the first place. It is an adult vice that some enjoy. And, casinos are unique in being a legal place to indulge in multiple vices with no stigma.



Total Bullshit. What percentage of adults smoke? And they should rule the lungs of the not so selfish, stupid customers? What about the dealers who have no say about the risks they have to face. Medically this has been settled 57 years ago. End smoking and life will go on, they are also addicted to gambling, castrate them all, so they canít multiply. (Sarcasm)
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May 22nd, 2021 at 9:32:08 PM permalink
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Total Bullshit. What percentage of adults smoke? And they should rule the lungs of the not so selfish, stupid customers? What about the dealers who have no say about the risks they have to face. Medically this has been settled 57 years ago. End smoking and life will go on, they are also addicted to gambling, castrate them all, so they canít multiply. (Sarcasm)



I think about 15-20% of adults smoke (U.S.), but among routine U.S. gamblers the rate is significantly higher. When you factor foreign tourists who come from countries where smoking is still socially normal, and people (like myself) who only smoke at casinos, the rate even probably even higher still.... It is well known that gamblers smoke.

This is not really an opposed figure, casino know that a significant portion of their consumers smoke or else they would not spend so much time and money trying to cater to smokers (and oppose restrictions).... If most gamers want 100% nonsmoking casinos, why would there not be more? If this was the true demand, every major casino would be nonsmoking, you would not need government restrictions.... And, the only smoking casinos would be small niche casinos....
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May 22nd, 2021 at 10:58:03 PM permalink
Casinos have no guts.
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May 23rd, 2021 at 4:01:20 AM permalink
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I do not think that allowing smoking sections detracts from anyone's experience.



The most factually incorrect statement in the history of the world.

The stench from any indoor area in which smoking is allowed is nothing short of revolting.

But..... I am not against allowing smoking if that is what the private business (casino) wants to do.
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May 23rd, 2021 at 4:35:57 AM permalink
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The stench from any indoor area in which smoking is allowed is nothing short of revolting.


How did you survive prior to 1990?
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May 23rd, 2021 at 8:02:15 AM permalink
Both you and TD said it. This addiction harms everyone just like any other drugs. This is coming from an ex smoker. even after 14 years it's effect still lingers. It had resulted a friend's recent death . i just love that shirt "No excuse"
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May 23rd, 2021 at 8:05:40 AM permalink
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How did you survive prior to 1990?



I always find it amusing how older people who grew up most of their life where smoking was accepted are the most offended by it in the modern context. It seems like young people tend to not care (at least not at bars and casinos)... In the 1960s they probably never gave it a second thought.

Honestly former smokers are even worse, a lot of adult who were chain smokers when I was a kid (and generally the type who were super aggressive about it, "you can't tell me where I can't smoke" types) are now holier than though and act like even seeing a cigarette offends them (that is just my observation).


Quote: SOOPOO

The most factually incorrect statement in the history of the world.

The stench from any indoor area in which smoking is allowed is nothing short of revolting.

But..... I am not against allowing smoking if that is what the private business (casino) wants to do.



How can an opinion be "the most factually incorrect statement in the history of the world" ..... Absurd comment...

In any case, I appreciate that you want to let it be at the discretion of casinos. There are casinos designed to be smoke free, if this is critical to people they can choose to go to such a casino. At best it should be a local city-level issue. I don't think blanket State bans are ever wise (for this issue).

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