ALERT: Rap Concert at PNC Bank Arts Center Tomorrow
http://www.the411online.com/news/02170602.html
http://freemuse.org/archives/627
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/22/nyregion/metro-briefing-new-jersey-atlantic-city-rap-festival-canceled.html
http://www.northjersey.com/story-archives/5-shootings-in-atlantic-city-2-killed-1.1206326
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Caught-on-Camera-4th-of-July-Boardwalk-Shooting-Atlantic-City-125177899.html
http://nypost.com/2015/06/08/arrests-chaos-after-crowds-rush-hip-hop-concert-at-nj-stadium/
http://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2015/08/05/reports-shooting-pnc-arts-center-concert/31091799/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/31/arts/music/rap-concert-shooting-renews-a-racially-charged-debate-on-safety.html?_r=0
http://www.ibtimes.com/are-rap-shows-safe-after-meek-mill-concert-shooting-5-times-guns-marred-rappers-2467949
Here's a similar thread he started in July 2015:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling-outside-vegas/atlantic-city/22764-alert-rap-concert-at-pnc-bank-arts-center-on-friday/
Interestingly, the first response in both threads are identical, and from the same author.
Quote: DJTeddyBear...
Interestingly, the first response in both threads are identical, and from the same author.
It's been 666 days between the OP's two warnings, which is an interesting number.
Who is the racist here?
The city of Philadelphia or Welks Fargo?
Quote: RossHAlso avoid stopping at the Cheesequake Service area as a lot of the "people" going to the concerts stop there before and after the show.
Why is people in quotes?
"People" are people too.
Quote: MrVI'm sure there are some who appreciate the OP's "warning,"
Well, if you know any classic Archie Bunker types, you could tell them it's the BEST time to visit AC.
That's the downside of taking corporate sponsorship.
Ho-hum. Seen that, done there. Decades ago, a time or two or ten, mostly sometime in the last century. Has always been the easiest kind of opportunity in the world for even the most doufus loser type horny guy to score a little sumpin-sumpin. Foolproof instructions: Don't shower, don't shave, throw on the most stanky duds that have been marinating in the bottom of the clothes hamper, go up to a gaggle of the bored suburban snots at something like this and speak to them as crudely as possible, like you've been raised by wolves, and you'll already be on third base. Some things truly never change:
Quote: DrawingDeadLooks like many of the tickets for this are either $113 or $281 each, with a minimum purchase of two, plus tax & fees, depending on how close ya wanna get to the latest version of "bad boys" manufactured by the entertainment industry. So, I'm picturing several thousand spoiled suburban kids who went out to the mall and got their gangsta on at the Gap with daddy's AMEX card in order to feel appropriately dangerous at the New Jersey stop on the "Nobody Safe Tour" (*snicker*snort*giggle*).
Ho-hum. Seen that, done there. Decades ago, a time or two or ten, mostly sometime in the last century. Has always been the easiest kind of opportunity in the world for even the most doufus loser type horny guy to score a little sumpin-sumpin. Foolproof instructions: Don't shower, don't shave, throw on the most stanky duds that have been marinating in the bottom of the clothes hamper, go up to a gaggle of the bored suburban snots at something like this and speak to them as crudely as possible, like you've been raised by wolves, and you'll already be on third base. Some things truly never change:
I'm sure a lot of people in the past have had the same mentality. However as referenced by the articles linked rap concerts tend to be violent. Even in the areas around the arenas tend to be the worst. I worked in the DA's office in LA, and 95% of the cases I handled regarding rap concerts happened after the show in the immediate area of the venue. (i.e. roads leading to the venue and bus stops next to the venue)
Quote: RossHrap concerts tend to be violent. Even in the areas around the arenas tend to be the worst. I worked in the DA's office in LA, and 95% of the cases I handled regarding rap concerts happened after the show in the immediate area of the venue. (i.e. roads leading to the venue and bus stops next to the venue)
Rap lives matter.
Quote: GandlerI would appreciate the warning, but I avoid all of North Jersey all the time to avoid the rap areas lol. But, it is a valid concern, many concerts lead to rowdiness, but large rap concerts have historically been linked to shooting and gang conflicts, its just a reality.
It's also reality that anybody considering this a valid concern when a nearby rap concert is about one ten millionth as dangerous to casino patrons as the act of driving to the casino, is a in the grips of hysterical, racist fear.
It would be far more rational to warn of a light drizzle or a single pothole.
Probably also spends a lot of time cowering over terrorism. A nice way to go through life.
Assuming a 125 mile (NYC to AC) drive to the casino, the odds of dying in a traffic accident are about 1 in 1 million in New Jersey. (Source. You have to drill down to find the 2015 NJ statistics of Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles, which is 0.75)Quote: RigondeauxIt's also reality that anybody considering this a valid concern when a nearby rap concert is about one ten millionth as dangerous to casino patrons as the act of driving to the casino, is a in the grips of hysterical, racist fear.
I could not find any "Rap Concert" fatality data, but let's make the assumption that in a given year, one person is killed from violence after a concert. I think that would be an accurate, if not conservative estimate. Now, let's assume 100 rap concerts in a year in NJ with an average attendance of 10,000 people. Using these assumptions, there would be a 1 in 1 million chance of dying due to concert related violence.
So, using what I consider to be conservative estimates, it seems that the two are about equally likely.
Quote: JoemanAssuming a 125 mile (NYC to AC) drive to the casino, the odds of dying in a traffic accident are about 1 in 1 million in New Jersey. (Source. You have to drill down to find the 2015 NJ statistics of Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles, which is 0.75)
I could not find any "Rap Concert" fatality data, but let's make the assumption that in a given year, one person is killed from violence after a concert. I think that would be an accurate, if not conservative estimate. Now, let's assume 100 rap concerts in a year in NJ with an average attendance of 10,000 people. Using these assumptions, there would be a 1 in 1 million chance of dying due to concert related violence.
So, using what I consider to be conservative estimates, it seems that the two are about equally likely.
Sure. But what if I happen to be driving near the "people" who attended the concert? I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times I'm pretty sure I almost died.
Sounds about right. Whew, you were very lucky -- that's only a 0.25% chance of surviving both times! ;)Quote: rdw4potusSure. But what if I happen to be driving near the "people" who attended the concert? I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times I'm pretty sure I almost died.
I've never been to AC, but I think my biggest concern for this or any event in the area is that it would drive more traffic to the casinos, making the table minimums higher, spots at tables harder to get, etc.
I wonder what the mortality rate for playing beyond one's bankroll is. Probably about the same as the other two scenarios.
"Those people" have killed me on more than one occasion.
Be very afraid.
*per Fox News*
Quote: JoemanSounds about right. Whew, you were very lucky -- that's only a 0.25% chance of surviving both times! ;)
I've never been to AC, but I think my biggest concern for this or any event in the area is that it would drive more traffic to the casinos, making the table minimums higher, spots at tables harder to get, etc.
I wonder what the mortality rate for playing beyond one's bankroll is. Probably about the same as the other two scenarios.
Yeah, table minimums go up, room rates go up, wait-times at restaurants and for drink service go up.
Study duration would matter, but I think people who play beyond their means probably kill themselves more than 1:1MM times. So busting the bankroll is probably the most dangerous of these things.
The more time you spend on an interstate, the more likely you are to be involved in an accident.
The faster you go, the less time you will spend on the interstate, but the faster you travel, the more likely it is you will be involved in an accident. Therefore, the car driving slower will avoid accidents caused by speeding yet is exposed to more potential accidents by being on the interstate longer.
Throw a rap concert into the equation and all hell breaks loose.
It's why I prefer to travel by G6.
This must be a new type of Algebra. Are there any math experts here that can explain that?Quote: rdw4potus... I've done that twice and in 95% of those two times ...
Quote: JoemanAssuming a 125 mile (NYC to AC) drive to the casino, the odds of dying in a traffic accident are about 1 in 1 million in New Jersey. (Source. You have to drill down to find the 2015 NJ statistics of Fatalities per 100 Million Vehicle Miles, which is 0.75)
I could not find any "Rap Concert" fatality data, but let's make the assumption that in a given year, one person is killed from violence after a concert. I think that would be an accurate, if not conservative estimate. Now, let's assume 100 rap concerts in a year in NJ with an average attendance of 10,000 people. Using these assumptions, there would be a 1 in 1 million chance of dying due to concert related violence.
So, using what I consider to be conservative estimates, it seems that the two are about equally likely.
I'd love to be your bookie.
She was kinda cute, but from the looks of it, she turned out to be a grumpy lesbian.Quote: DrawingDeadLooks like many of the tickets for this are either $113 or $281 each, with a minimum purchase of two, plus tax & fees, depending on how close ya wanna get to the latest version of "bad boys" manufactured by the entertainment industry. So, I'm picturing several thousand spoiled suburban kids who went out to the mall and got their gangsta on at the Gap with daddy's AMEX card in order to feel appropriately dangerous at the New Jersey stop on the "Nobody Safe Tour" (*snicker*snort*giggle*).
Ho-hum. Seen that, done there. Decades ago, a time or two or ten, mostly sometime in the last century. Has always been the easiest kind of opportunity in the world for even the most doufus loser type horny guy to score a little sumpin-sumpin. Foolproof instructions: Don't shower, don't shave, throw on the most stanky duds that have been marinating in the bottom of the clothes hamper, go up to a gaggle of the bored suburban snots at something like this and speak to them as crudely as possible, like you've been raised by wolves, and you'll already be on third base. Some things truly never change:
http://www.the411online.com/news/02170602.html
No because they found big strong men to protect them headed to AC.Quote: KeyserDid the riots and looting from the rap concert cause much property damage?
